British Election

Can't take the pace Ameriscot??? ..........I have been up all night also and not nearly ready for sleep.:)
 

Ameriscot said:
Still up and it's 3:10am. Gutted by Tory win but loving the SNP results!
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I woke up briefly at 3:00am, and saw how it was going, have just woke to see the Tory party is heading for a majority. It seems all the sensible people live north of the border Annie, maybe I should move :confused:

I do feel its a very sad day for the UK, as the poor and disenfranchised in our society will be pushed further down the poverty scale. The gap will widen between between rich and poor and I can see civil unrest developing when it becomes unsustainable.
Also we now have to face two years of wrangling, ending in a Tory promised referendum on leaving the EU, what a mess. :(
I need to raid your drinks cabinet Annie :very_drunk:
PS: The pound will do well of course, as the city has its favourite puppet government back for another 5 years. :rolleyes:
 
Democracy in action, English style.

Shetland has a massive SNP vote, but ends up with a Conservative government, as decided by England!
 

Bee said:
Can't take the pace Ameriscot??? ..........I have been up all night also and not nearly ready for sleep.:)
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Haha! I went through phases, nodding off, then wide awake. Have only had a few short naps now so I expect an afternoon nap.
 
merlin said:
I woke up briefly at 3:00am, and saw how it was going, have just woke to see the Tory party is heading for a majority. It seems all the sensible people live north of the border Annie, maybe I should move :confused:

I do feel its a very sad day for the UK, as the poor and disenfranchised in our society will be pushed further down the poverty scale. The gap will widen between between rich and poor and I can see civil unrest developing when it becomes unsustainable.
Also we now have to face two years of wrangling, ending in a Tory promised referendum on leaving the EU, what a mess. :(
I need to raid your drinks cabinet Annie :very_drunk:
PS: The pound will do well of course, as the city has its favourite puppet government back for another 5 years. :rolleyes:
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Come on up Merlin! Lots of English up here and we're very nice to them. Only rule is to be very, very quiet if you are supporting England in the World Cup. You can get deported for that.

I foresee another independence referendum in a couple of years or so. As for the vote on the EU, is there a chance people who vote to get out? What a disaster that would be.
 
There are still 53 countries in the Commonwealth. Quite a few in Africa. When we lived in Uganda - a Commonwealth country - they held the CHOGM - Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting which is every two years I think and they take turns holding it in different countries. The Queen and lots of PM's and other heads attend. Prince Philip was taken to a national park by helicopter so he wouldn't have to ride on roads that are more potholes than road. :rolleyes:
 
Ameriscot said:
Come on up Merlin! Lots of English up here and we're very nice to them. Only rule is to be very, very quiet if you are supporting England in the World Cup. You can get deported for that.

I foresee another independence referendum in a couple of years or so. As for the vote on the EU, is there a chance people who vote to get out? What a disaster that would be.
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Yes Annie my brother-in-law has lived in Kilmartin near Lochgilphead, for the past 10 years and is very happy there, he is a loner whereas I have all my friends and family here so wouldn't find it easy to move. :(

Regarding leaving the EU, I know a lot of people would like to leave, but I am certain the Tory government will persuade them otherwise, as they are very good at propaganda, look how they stage managed the Scottish independence referendum.
I predict there will be a mock renegotiation with the EU, and Cameron will come back and say we are happy with the new terms, and persuade everyone to stay, it would be a disaster to leave as you say.
 
merlin said:
Yes Annie my brother-in-law has lived in Kilmartin near Lochgilphead, for the past 10 years and is very happy there, he is a loner whereas I have all my friends and family here so wouldn't find it easy to move. :(

Regarding leaving the EU, I know a lot of people would like to leave, but I am certain the Tory government will persuade them otherwise, as they are very good at propaganda, look how they stage managed the Scottish independence referendum.
I predict there will be a mock renegotiation with the EU, and Cameron will come back and say we are happy with the new terms, and persuade everyone to stay, it would be a disaster to leave as you say.
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I love Kilmartin! Been there many times, first time was on our honeymoon.

Aye, the Tories are excellent at propaganda.
 
hollydolly said:
Well the results are what I expected... I stayed up until just after 3am..
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Most are shocked as the outcome does not agree with the pre-election polls at all. Looks like Tories will get a majority on their own without any negotiations.

Another referendum in Scotland in a couple of years? Or longer?
 
Ameriscot said:
Haha! I went through phases, nodding off, then wide awake. Have only had a few short naps now so I expect an afternoon nap.
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I am still going strong but will most likely have an afternoon sleep.:)

As fas as I am concerned it is a sad sad day for British politics.

In my area we still have the district,town and parish results to come in which will probably be about lunch time before we know the results of them.
 
One thing that's missing in this thread is any discussion of issues. What were the major issues debated and what was the position advocated by the different parties? You can't say we don't discuss issues in American politics.
 
Josiah said:
One thing that's missing in this thread is any discussion of issues. What were the major issues debated and what was the position advocated by the different parties? You can't say we don't discuss issues in American politics.
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I'm not great at discussing details of politics and I'm sure some one will correct my errors.

Austerity - cutting public services to get the deficit down
Raising/cutting university tuition fees
Immigration - making it more difficult
EU - voting on whether to leave it or not (only Tories and UKIP want this)
Welfare cuts
Trident nuclear weapons (they are a mile from my house and Scotland doesn't want them here or to help pay the cost of keeping them here)
Privatising the NHS - Tories, of course

I found this handy guide about the issues of each party:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/manifesto-guide

Next year Scotland's parliament will have an election and I'd imagine that another independence vote will be raised.
 
Josiah said:
One thing that's missing in this thread is any discussion of issues. What were the major issues debated and what was the position advocated by the different parties? You can't say we don't discuss issues in American politics.
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The issues in my opinion Josiah are basically, the Tory party which seems to be similar in some ways to your Republican party, does not believe in state owned services, hence the privatisation of virtually everything from water to railways, they also want the state benefit system cut to the bone. They are slowly privatising the NHS by stealth, as most of us value the health service, so it is difficult for them to be honest about what they are doing. They also believe in austerity measures on the general population, in order to pay off the debts incurred by the mistakes the bankers made causing the 2008 crash, while the bankers continue to pay themselves as usual.

The Labour Party traditionally support the working man and the poor and sick in society, so believe all basic services should be state owned and financed, unfortunately this ethos has largely been lost in the last decade, so they are nearer to the Tory ideology. Both parties say what the population want to hear, but they are both controlled by the banks and the multi-national companies, so the rich 1% get richer while the 99% become poorer.
 
merlin said:
The issues in my opinion Josiah are basically, the Tory party which seems to be similar in some ways to your Republican party, does not believe in state owned services, hence the privatisation of virtually everything from water to railways, they also want the state benefit system cut to the bone. They are slowly privatising the NHS by stealth, as most of us value the health service, so it is difficult for them to be honest about what they are doing. They also believe in austerity measures on the general population, in order to pay off the debts incurred by the mistakes the bankers made causing the 2008 crash, while the bankers continue to pay themselves as usual.

The Labour Party traditionally support the working man and the poor and sick in society, so believe all basic services should be state owned and financed, unfortunately this ethos has largely been lost in the last decade, so they are nearer to the Tory ideology. Both parties say what the population want to hear, but they are both controlled by the banks and the multi-national companies, so the rich 1% get richer while the 99% become poorer.
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Well said, Merlin. I voted SNP and liked everything Nicola Sturgeon said. My hope though was that Labour would win outside of Scotland but the SNP would support them.

Some big differences between Republicans and Tories is that many Republicans follow evangelical beliefs and are anti-gay, anti-choice for women, etc. Tories do not have those beliefs and those are just not issues here.
 
merlin said:
In a way you are right Ralphy but I believe what is happening in the UK is also happening in the US, the average person is struggling and the rich are becoming increasingly richer, both societies are lost in greed, possibly this is our ultimate downfall?
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The rich in both countries are disgustingly rich and the poor are getting poorer. There is a huge divide in both countries and it is getting bigger.
 
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