Israel Has Declared War after Unprecedented Hamas Attack

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Funny, people hate Israel enough to accept Hamas/Iran//Muslim Brotherhood in their quest to de-skin mother and fathers in front of their children, then raping the children before they kill them. They see that as 'ok' but hate Israelis for existing.
You never see Hamas starting peace talks, but its always Israel trying for peace.

In October 1993, the Federal Bureau of Investigation wiretapped a Philadelphia hotel room where a dozen senior Hamas members—some of them U.S.-based—had gathered. The men had called the meeting weeks after the signing of the Oslo Peace Accords between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. For days they debated how to sabotage the agreement and generate support for Hamas among American Muslims, the political class and wider society. They correctly foresaw that the U.S. government would designate Hamas a terrorist organization and agreed on a strategy to frame the conflict in religious terms for Muslims while using more-palatable frames for non-Muslim Americans. They plotted to create an array of mainstream organizations to conduct this dual-track work.

“Let’s not hoist a large Islamic flag, and let’s not be barbaric-talking,” one of the participants said. “We will remain a front so that if the [terror designation] happens, we will benefit from the new developments instead of having all of our organizations classified and exposed.”
“I swear by Allah that war is deception,” another said. “Deceive, camouflage, pretend that you’re leaving while you’re walking that way.”

This is how they will deceive the weak Americans to do their dirty work.......
Just remember all the Terrorist supporters, the main goal is death to America. They are here, they are waiting, they are using taxpayer money to live and continue to build their base.....But, the hatred for Israel is more important?
 
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@SeaBreeze
I refer to my post #936:
Since Palestinian people do not care for the lives of Israeli, even all Jewish children, why should *I* care about theirs?
Because I evolved and they did not. They make it awfully hard, however. I think they devolved.


Count this Jew in as anti Netanyahu & pro 2 State because Before I'm American, Before I'm a Jew I am Human Being, Planet Earth.

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Yes, SeaBreeze, this WAS an isolated incident, the Crime by a Nut Case against a kid.
Hamas obviously does not care about the lives of Palestinian people or Israeli people.

It is good to know that you are anti-Netanyahu who had no problems it seems to kill Palestinians and committing war crimes.

I also would like a two state solution, that would be ideal. I'm far from an expert on the subject, but Netanyahu and the Israeli government has got to give a little bit to make that happen, taking over land and killing innocent Palestinian citizens for years (similar to Russia invading Ukraine) would leave a bad taste in their mouths. Hard to love the children of the people who are slaughtering yours.

My brother in law was Jewish, wonderful human, took his family for visits to Israel. I have no hate toward Jewish people or Israel, except the government/Netanyahu.

Sorry, but it was not an isolated incedent, I wish it was. Crime by a Muslim hater against Muslims, can't sugar coat that.
Hate Crimes Against Muslims
 
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I will disagree about Netanyahu. If I had to live next door to terrorists I would want my leader to be the meanest SOB in the neighborhood, not that I think he is mean. He's as tough as the neighbors force him to be. If this mess ends up in a world war we better all hope that we don't have a milquetoast leading our country when it happens.

@SeaBreeze, your link doesn't lead to a study or even news stories. It leads to a political organization and it's only a resolution. Aren't we talking about crimes and behavior since the Hamas sneak attack and Israel's declaration of war? Other than that one horrible crime against the child and his mother I just don't see stories about anyone attacking Muslims but please post the links and make me aware.

We are not seeing our streets full of people protesting Muslims, the thousands of protesters are pro-Hamas and anti-Jew and that is a huge worry, at least for me.
 
We are not seeing our streets full of people protesting Muslims, the thousands of protesters are pro-Hamas and anti-Jew and that is a huge worry, at least for me.

Worried here as well and many more are in the Western world. I like to read international news sources and esp comments. Usually the US is looked down upon for our 2nd Amendment (rightly so in many cases) but with the pro-Palestine demonstrations, some Western world commenters with hoards of Muslim protestors and attendant violence in their countries are expressing their wish for the right to bear arms. They're afraid, especially the citizens of nations who have taken in large numbers of Arab immigrants.
 
Oh, and while we pause, lets also fight the scourge of Islamophobia. Is anyone stupid enough to buy this crap ??
There is a multi-billion dollar porn industry in the U.S. that depicts violence and hate speech towards women, but the government is setting up a department to prevent Islamophobia and make sure this doesn't happen to Muslims?????????????
 
Other than that one horrible crime against the child and his mother I just don't see stories about anyone attacking Muslims but please post the links and make me aware.
Thousands of women and girls are raped and murdered in the U.S. each year but if there is one incidence of violence against Muslims the government sets up a department to prevent Islamophobia. ????????
 
Worried here as well and many more are in the Western world. I like to read international news sources and esp comments. Usually the US is looked down upon for our 2nd Amendment (rightly so in many cases) but with the pro-Palestine demonstrations, some Western world commenters with hoards of Muslim protestors and attendant violence in their countries are expressing their wish for the right to bear arms. They're afraid, especially the citizens of nations who have taken in large numbers of Arab immigrants.
See post 951......These Hamas groups were set up in the US to further move their agenda.
 
Thousands of women and girls are raped and murdered in the U.S. each year but if there is one incidence of violence against Muslims the government sets up a department to prevent Islamophobia. ????????
I believe Islam, Islamophobia and Muslims are already covered under the hate crime statutes and that's as it should be. We don't want any crimes against any groups IMO.

Would you want to add human trafficking to your concern about porn and crimes against women? Maybe you did in the other thread and I don't remember. Either way crimes against women are a huge concern. I'm glad you brought it up.
 
But so far they haven't, in fact they've been among the tormentors. I see enough hajabs within these groups to make that statement. America, Land of the Free.
It's quite possible it just hasn't made the news yet. I saw that anyone who is protesting for Palestine (which as @SeaBreeze so aptly pointed out...doesn't mean they are pro-Hamas) will be blacklisted by major corporations that wants lists of those who protested. Land of the not so free in those cases! BTW anytime anyone claims that all of a body of people or none of a body of people subscribe to certain actions and beliefs, they are automatically wrong. It's not fair to paint everyone with the same brush!
 
I'm going to tell you this.. and it's fact... If I called a Black person.. a derogatory name.. or attacked them using racial slurs.. I would be arrested... ..the same will happen if I do the same to to a Homosexual....

if I attack a Jew.. or call them equally a derogatory name.. in the name of Palestine or Hamas .. this is being overlooked by our Police... this is fact!! It's an absolutely appalling and shameful fact..
 
I believe Islam, Islamophobia and Muslims are already covered under the hate crime statutes and that's as it should be. We don't want any crimes against any groups IMO.

Would you want to add human trafficking to your concern about porn and crimes against women? Maybe you did in the other thread and I don't remember. Either way crimes against women are a huge concern. I'm glad you brought it up.
The point of the post is that no special government entity is being set up just to prevent crimes against women and girls but a special one is being set up to prevent Islamophobia.
 
The point of the post is that no special government entity is being set up just to prevent crimes against women and girls but a special one is being set up to prevent Islamophobia.
Somehow I am failing you in my response but I do understand the point of the post.
 
I'm pro Israel & think my fathers advice to me when I was a teen applies.

Don't start a fight, but if you need to defend yourself make sure you don't have to defend yourself again.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings if every Hamas fighter was done away with so that element wasn't able to do what they did to start this.

If Palestinians demonstrating & or suffering want to end this, then why not expose the element that started this?
 
It's quite possible it just hasn't made the news yet. I saw that anyone who is protesting for Palestine (which as @SeaBreeze so aptly pointed out...doesn't mean they are pro-Hamas) will be blacklisted by major corporations that wants lists of those who protested. Land of the not so free in those cases! BTW anytime anyone claims that all of a body of people or none of a body of people subscribe to certain actions and beliefs, they are automatically wrong. It's not fair to paint everyone with the same brush!
I am pro-Palestinian and have watched their plight for years now, my heart goes out to all those innocent civilians.

I am not pro-Hamas......or any other terrorist group in the Middle East, Europe or the US for that matter.

I agree with you that it's not fair, and a disgrace to punish those who are protesting in favor of the Palestinian people, they are not if favor of murderers and terrorists. This world is screwed up, when people can't see and judge for themselves who are the victims and who are the aggressors. Folks just follow the loudest crowd, can't reason and think for themselves anymore it seems.

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The longer this Israel/Hamas conflict continues, the more likely there will be a terrorist attack/suicide bombing in the U.S. High on the list of possibilities would be Times Square on New Years Eve....IMO.
 
Article of some relevance from Israel National News by Dr. Alex Grobman and well worth a read.
Particularly interesting are examples of similar attacks that pre-date the establishment of the state of Israel.
Article too long to post here, so I'll leave a link ...

“Why my generation hates Jews”

Dr. Alex Grobmanis the senior resident scholar at the John C. Danforth Society and a member of the Council of Scholars for Peace in the Middle East (SPME). He is author of The Palestinian Right To Israel. and co-author of Denying History: Who Says The Holocaust Never Happened And Why Do They Say It? He lives in Jerusalem
 
The more I see of protesters and even elected officials (none of which I voted for and NEVER would) who deny that 7 Oct even happened ... AND those tearing down posters of hostage CHILDREN still in Gaza, they say were simply invented by artificial intelligence (AI) ...

... the more I dislike those pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas freaks ... and people of their ilk.
 
The longer this Israel/Hamas conflict continues, the more likely there will be a terrorist attack/suicide bombing in the U.S. High on the list of possibilities would be Times Square on New Years Eve....IMO.
I don't think we will be waiting until New Years Eve, Don. :(

Jordanian national arrested in Houston allegedly planned attack on Jews​

A“radical” Jordanian national living in Texas was allegedly plotting an attack on Houston’s Jewish community before he was arrested on gun charges.

Sohaib Abuayyash, 20, had been studying how to build bombs and posted about his support for killing Jews, federal officials claim.

Sohaib Abuayyash, 20, had been studying how to build bombs and posted about his support for killing Jews, federal officials claim.United States District Court Southern District of Texas
Abuayyash is now behind bars on charges of unlawful possession of a firearm by someone with a non-immigrant visa, and US Magistrate Judge Christina Bryan has ruled he should remain detained pending trial.

She wrote in court documents that Abuayyash spoke of committing martyrdom in support of a religious cause and made statements “that he wants to go to Gaza to fight,” according to documents also obtained by CBS News.

“He has viewed specific and detailed content posted by radical organizations on the Internet, including lessons on how to construct bombs or explosive devices,” she wrote.

An affidavit filed on Oct. 19 in the US District Court for the Southern District of Texas also says that Abuayyash “has been in direct contact with others who share a radical mindset, has been conducting physical training and has trained with weapons to possibly commit an attack.”

Abuayyash is now behind bars on charges of unlawful possession of a firearm by someone with a non-immigrant visa.

MSN
 
I am pro-Palestinian and have watched their plight for years now, my heart goes out to all those innocent civilians.

I am not pro-Hamas......or any other terrorist group in the Middle East, Europe or the US for that matter.

I agree with you that it's not fair, and a disgrace to punish those who are protesting in favor of the Palestinian people, they are not if favor of murderers and terrorists. This world is screwed up, when people can't see and judge for themselves who are the victims and who are the aggressors. Folks just follow the loudest crowd, can't reason and think for themselves anymore it seems.

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I agree with you 110% Sea Breeze. Another thing people don't realize is that we are not being shown the whole picture. Members seem to know that the media is slanted, yet in some instances, some also seem to have selective memory. I am pro-humans! Therefore very concerned about humanitarian atrocities on both sides that are the result of this war. Humans are going to wind up destroying each other if all this hate and warring continues. I really am concerned about there being a third world war. I'm also concerned about attacks on the U.S. One likely target would be New York City. We live close enough that we might be adversely affected.
 
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