Helene news out of NC and surrounding mountain states is not good 9/28/24

OneEyedDiva said:
@Alizerine @RadishRose From the reports I've been seeing the areas hardest hit by the storm are without power and cell phone service. @Lara may be in one of those areas. I believe she lives on a beach or very close to one, In which case she may have had the misfortune of getting flooded out and experiencing damage, in which case she would be quite busy now. I sure hope the latter isn't why we haven't heard!.
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Diva, it was my understanding it is western NC that was hard hit. Lara is east as you say, near the beach. I'm hoping she had no flooding, but power and cell phone problems .
 
It grinds my gears when these desk jockeys on cnn and others
try to blame the govt for this natural storms and the response....
grgrgrgrgrg :mad:🤬
 

RadishRose said:
Diva, it was my understanding it is western NC that was hard hit. Lara is east as you say, near the beach. I'm hoping she had no flooding, but power and cell phone problems .
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There are videos of houses falling into the Ocean on the Outer Banks of NC … just don’t know if they are current though.
The winds and flooding went in every direction, that is for sure. Terrible stuff.
 
JustBonee said:
There are videos of houses falling into the Ocean on the Outer Banks of NC … just don’t know if they are current though.
The winds and flooding went in every direction, that is for sure. Terrible stuff.
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There was a tropical storm that formed off the Carolinas coast before Helene. It dropped a lot of rain and that's when three houses collapsed into the ocean. It was in Rodanthe on the Outer Banks.
 
Cornhusker said:
I wonder what caused the hurricanes in 1945-1950?
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"Helene’s landfall gives the U.S. a record eight Cat 4 or Cat 5 Atlantic hurricane landfalls in the past eight years (2017-2024), seven of them being continental U.S. landfalls. That’s as many Cat 4 and 5 landfalls as occurred in the prior 57 years. The only comparable beating the U.S. has taken from Category 4 and 5 landfall hurricanes occurred in the six years from 1945 to 1950, when five Category 4 hurricanes hit South Florida."
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I don't know, but the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombs were dropped in 1945, followed by considerable nuclear testing.
 
RadishRose said:
Diva, it was my understanding it is western NC that was hard hit. Lara is east as you say, near the beach. I'm hoping she had no flooding, but power and cell phone problems .
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Yes it was mostly the western part of N.C. I wasn't sure which part @Lara lives in, so I'm glad she's in the eastern part. My son's friend lives in N.C. and was up here this past weekend. I was hoping she was able to make it home without issues because she lives in the northern part of the state.
 
rgp said:
I do not have an on-line debate . But I have read sites that say scientifically , that the amount of earth damage by humans is miniscule @ best . Again, compared to something like volcanos , it is but a drop in the ocean. And again i agree we do not treat earth properly , and do indeed pollute way too much but we are not the source of the most damage.

And once again, just how far back would you want to go ? In terms of denying modern living and technology ? Do you want to quit driving vehicles & go back to riding horses ? Walking, riding bicycles ? Live without heat & electricity ?

There are all the things we need and want to live in a modern world .

Any good ideas on alternatives ? And i do not mean burning more coal, to power-up plants to produce even more electricity for cars .

Are you happy with those cars that only go 3-500 miles on a charge, and then take 6-8 hours to recharge if you can find a charger ?
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"But I have read sites that say scientifically , that the amount of earth damage by humans is miniscule @ best ."

Why does that make me laugh?
 
JustBonee said:
There are videos of houses falling into the Ocean on the Outer Banks of NC … just don’t know if they are current though.
The winds and flooding went in every direction, that is for sure. Terrible stuff.
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Yes. It happened recently at Cape Hatteras which is about the easternmost point on the Outer Banks.
 
Really can't imagine how people in mountainous areas are holding up, especially first responders. They have such a wide area to cover and know there are people buried in debris and mud in the bottoms of ravines.

When Hurricane Camille made landfall in 1969, the remnants went into the Virginia mountains and did similar damage. Twenty-eight people were never found. This was worse because Helene was much wider and also the affected area was saturated from rains that had fallen when a cold front came through shortly before Helene.
 
We sat through a fairly strong hurricane in 1966, when I was stationed at a USAF base near Goldsboro, NC. Luckily the base housing was strong, and the base suffered minimal damage. The town, however, was a mess for weeks. It will be years before the damage from this hurricane will be resolved.

Yesterday, we made a donation to the Red Cross for an amount that should feed several people for days. That's about all we can do, as "thoughts and prayers" will be of little help. I would urge anyone who has some extra funds to do the same, but watch out for any of these TV ads that claim they will help for only $19/month. I suspect the "scams" will soon be starting, so if you donate, Stay With known and reputable charities.
 
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Most likely a refrig needs to be put in place in the Gulf / Carribean at the Tornado Alley to take the Energy out of the developing storms.
$$$ Trillions have now been spent going to space with not much benefit. Spend on good ideas ? If all the Nuclear Power was used wisely
maybe global warming would be constrained. Even huge umbrellas in orbit? Is constant improvement in Communication / Internet gonna
fix it? THINK NOT !
 
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