Election Day at last in America…

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David777 said:
The political orientation of California tends to be misunderstood by Eastern outsiders due to media dominance by the populous coastal counties. However it usually shows a larger area of red than blue due to more conservative larger inland counties. Unfortunately the state entered the union at too large a practical size much like Texas. Efforts to split the state have always been opposed by politicians in the more populous south coastal counties and national political entities.

With only 60% of votes yet tabulated, that clearly shows again in this 11am EST map.

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It's interesting that the more Democratic leaning counties are on the coastline in both the west and east of the country, and the Republican leaning counties tend to be more inland. Not sure what the reason is, but there must be one. It's hard to ignore.
 

As a general election post mortem from someone without political stripes that selected a throw away vote, I found the dominant constant headline news media obsession for months with mainly polling quite annoying.

In following days we are once again going to be reading reasons why national POTUS pollsters got it somewhat wrong despite having black eyes from 2020 and thinking they had made enough weighting corrections. Instead they greatly misjudged two demographics that had good reasons for not being publicly open about their preferences within their own more polarized and vocal demographic.
 
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bobcat said:
It's interesting that the more Democratic leaning counties are on the coastline in both the west and east of the country, and the Republican leaning counties tend to be more inland. Not sure what the reason is, but there must be one. It's hard to ignore.
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Inland counties are more rural... ranches, farmland... They almost always tend to be more conservative than cities.
 
bobcat said:
It's interesting that the more Democratic leaning counties are on the coastline in both the west and east of the country, and the Republican leaning counties tend to be more inland. Not sure what the reason is, but there must be one. It's hard to ignore.
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Reason is probably because liberal-minded people tend to live in big cities and suburbs, and most of those are coastal. Inland areas is where you find lots of smaller towns and farmland, which conservative-minded and salt-of-the-earth types prefer.
 
David777 said:
As a general election post mortem from someone without political stripes that selected a throw away vote, I found the dominant constant headline news media obsession for months with mainly polling quite annoying.

In following days we are once again going to be reading reasons why national POTUS pollsters got it somewhat wrong despite having black eyes from 2020 and thinking they had made enough weighting corrections. Instead they greatly misjudged two demographics that had good reasons for not being publicly open about their preferences within their own more polarized and vocal demographic.
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24 hour news has created a lot of inane time fillers.
 
Alizerine said:
The billionaires have spoken.
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AnnieA said:
From the perspective of an Independent, that's too simplistic. Soros has had skin in the game for decades and even the younger tech billionaires were in different camps in this election.
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Alizerine said:
Bothsiderism is part of the problem. For every George Soros there are a dozen on the other side.
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My point was that there are enough billionaires on either side to cancel the others. A majority of American voters have deep mistrust of government and media institutions that far outweigh the influence of the rich.

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bobcat said:
It's interesting that the more Democratic leaning counties are on the coastline in both the west and east of the country, and the Republican leaning counties tend to be more inland. Not sure what the reason is, but there must be one. It's hard to ignore.
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The big cities are more on the coasts.
City people have different priorities than small town and rural people. (generally speaking)
 
Nathan said:
Yes, fewer good paying jobs, real estate in general is less expensive than in LA or Riverside counties.
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That's why at least 1/3 of the residents don't stay longer than a year or two, and then move they find jobs elsewhere. Most of the other 2/3 are living on Soc-Sec or state benes. So, naturally, more businesses and industries close....not enough local spending to support them.

There were all kinds of little shops and even a few big businesses when I lived down there. We lived right down the street from a Blockbuster video! And a Denny's Restaurant! :p

They're both gone now, and the strip mall they were located in is empty except for a pharmacy, I think.
 
Brookswood said:
I think what you typed, and I high lighted in Bold, is at the heart of the matter and the key to the results. Remember the Democratic Primary debates? None of us do because there weren’t any.

Had the Dems had a real primary season with the President debating other contenders, the results might have been different. This is just my opinion, of course.
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Your point is well taken. But considering there was very little time, I think she did an amazing job.
 
bobcat said:
It's interesting that the more Democratic leaning counties are on the coastline in both the west and east of the country, and the Republican leaning counties tend to be more inland. Not sure what the reason is, but there must be one. It's hard to ignore.
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It is largely about population density.
 
In 1972, Senator George McGovern ran for President against Richard Nixon, not exactly the most popular figure on the planet. McGovern carried only the state of Massachusetts and the District of Columbia. Worst defeat in election history. He even lost that race in his own state, SD.

So much for foregone conclusions.
 
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