"Conservative values"??

QuickSilver said:
GOP..........Can we burn your house down?

Obama..........NO!!

GOP............ok........ then can we just burn the 2nd story?


OBAMA....... NO!!


GOP..........oh all right... can we just burn down your garage??

OBAMA...........NO!!

GOP............ You NEVER want to compromise!!!!
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So pathetically true QS. The GOP has turned stonewalling the President into an art form.
 

AZ Jim said:
So pathetically true QS. The GOP has turned stonewalling the President into an art form.
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I agree, it's been pretty obvious, but I do understand the GOP's reluctance to admit the obstruction, especially the politicians involved, because due to many of their actions America have suffered, full article here.


In President Obama’s July 12 weekly address he said, “So far this year, Republicans in Congress have blocked every serious idea to strengthen the middle class.” He could have said, “Since 2009.” Since the 2009 “stimulus,” Republicans have obstructed pretty much every effort to help the economy. In the Senate they have filibustered hundreds of bills, and since the “stimulus” they have managed to keep anything from passing that might help the economy.

In the House, Republicans have refused to allow votes on anything that seriously would help the economy, instead passing only tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, spending cuts on essential things like maintaining our infrastructure and scientific research, and cutting regulations that protect people and the environment from being harmed by corporations seeking profit.

Republicans have blocked every effort since the stimulus to maintain infrastructure, hire teachers, raise the minimum wage, give equal pay for women, stop special tax breaks for millionaires corporations (especially oil companies), stop tax breaks for sending jobs out of the country, provide student loan relief, help the long-term unemployed, and more. Instead they insist on even more tax breaks for oil companies and billionaires, on cutting environmental protections, deregulating oil companies, and so on.

Obstruction Using Senate Filibusters

How many bills have been filibustered by Senate Republicans since President Obama took office? Bloomberg’s Jonathan Bernstein, in “All Filibusters, All the Time,” writes, “The correct count of how many bills have been filibustered during Obama’s presidency is: approximately all of them.”

That’s what it means to have a 60-vote Senate, which is what Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and the Republicans declared as soon as Obama was elected. Almost every measure and, until Majority Leader Harry Reid and the Democrats invoked the nuclear option last fall, almost every nomination, had to have 60 or more votes to pass. That’s a filibuster.


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Here are just a few of the hundreds of bills Senate Republicans have filibustered since President Obama took office — just a few:



Equal Pay for Women
Minimum wage increase
Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
Bring Jobs Home Act – stop tax breaks for moving jobs and production facilities out of the country
Teachers and First Responders Back to Work Act of 2011 – rehire 400,000 teachers, firefighters, paramedics and police officers.
Student loan reform – ease the crushing burden of student loan debt by at least allowing refinancing to lower interest rates
Extended unemployment benefits – for the long-term unemployed
Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) — let working people join unions – filibustered in 2007, killed by threat of filibuster 2009
Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act – let public safety officers join unions
The Buffett rule – ensure millionaires pay a comparable tax rate to middle-class Americans
Repeal Big Oil Tax Subsidies Act




 
One of the comments in this post struck me as a way of summing up the way republicans have behaved throughout this Presidents terms in office. "Republicans have not been able to choose country over party." Simple, succinct, concise, accurate.
 

That statement of Jim's really fits both parties. We need to get back to real Constitutional government and eliminate all this party nonsense that is going on. Over the life of the US government there have been parties develop and then fade away as other items became more important. That could, and should, happen again.
 
It will be good to once again get a government without this Obama love affair blocking views of better ways to run a government. Both sides of our politics have done better in previous years than what is being shown in these Obama years. We do need to get back into the Constitution ways and forget all this hateful party nonsense that is leading the US into some really trying days. We need to end this gross debt situation soon or end up looking like Greece.
 
Lon said:
Now there was one really great Repub. He sure wasn't afraid to speak his mind.
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If you are referring to Mitch McConnell, he, in that short clip shows how much he and his supporters in congress do not care about our country, only his own agenda. It is a sick state of affairs when a relatively small body of evil men can kidnap a great nation as the republicans have done. In handicapping a President elected by the majority of Americans and in doing so depriving us of what we voted for.
 
I presume that the hardcore Obama haters are unaware of how much of the world perceives their antics? Sort of like clowns with semi automatics, who are hell bent on shooting themselves and any dissenters in the %*#%+>#, while the rest of the country looks on?
 
Shalimar said:
I presume that the hardcore Obama haters are unaware of how much of the world perceives their antics? Sort of like clowns with semi automatics, who are hell bent on shooting themselves and any dissenters in the %*#%+>#, while the rest of the country looks on?
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They flaunt their thwarting the peoples will. One day when the racial hatred that fuels much of this dissipates we might be able to make the decisions they were elected to make based on the merits of the issue, not the hatred of the man.
 
AZ Jim said:
They flaunt their thwarting the peoples will. One day when the racial hatred that fuels much of this dissipates we might be able to make the decisions they were elected to make based on the merits of the issue, not the hatred of the man.
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Jim, you are generalizing here. I don't see the concerns with Obama to be anything racial at all. Especially from the Republican party as they also have blacks in their midst. At least one is running for the next Presidential election. Maybe more would be interested too. The Republicans have had blacks in their governments in previous years, maybe you forgot that.

Hatred for Obama has been self generated by Obama and is not just Republican as you claim. Who created this monsterous debt we now face. Two years of Democrats under Bush and the going debt ran from 7.5 trillion to over 10.0 trillion with Democrats then controlling the Congress House and Senate. Then Obama showed up with his magic way of doing things and the national debt kept climbing to its now 18.5 trillion and still going up. Glad we are coming to a new government and I believe it will be much better with either a Democrat or Republican driven government in charge. This country needs a good break from this Obama style of government.
 
Shalimar said:
I presume that the hardcore Obama haters are unaware of how much of the world perceives their antics? Sort of like clowns with semi automatics, who are hell bent on shooting themselves and any dissenters in the %*#%+>#, while the rest of the country looks on?
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I was wondering about that. I pretty much guessed that the rest of the world looks at our Republican Congress and laughs their asses off.. but all the while wondering when these fools are going to destroy the world..
 
QuickSilver said:
I was wondering about that. I pretty much guessed that the rest of the world looks at our Republican Congress and laughs their asses off.. but all the while wondering when these fools are going to destroy the world..
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Things are not going so well in Europe. It is undeniable that the right wing is ascendant in Europe. While leftist parties did well here and there in recent elections to the European Parliament, the story over recent years has been mainly about the right, symbolized most dramatically by the soaring popularity of Marine Le Pen’s National Front in France. But also in Denmark, Austria, Finland, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Serbia, the one commonality is the dynamism of nationalist-style political movements. Right-wing parties in France and Denmark got a quarter of the vote in late May’s elections, while the right in Austria got a fifth. Meanwhile, the Jobbik party in Hungary and Golden Dawn in Greece have garnered headlines the world over for their flamboyant neo-fascist views and popularity among significant swathes of the voting public. Hell, the most influential liberal force in Europe is the Pope.
 
BobF said:
Jim, you are generalizing here. I don't see the concerns with Obama to be anything racial at all. Especially from the Republican party as they also have blacks in their midst.
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I'm surprised you don't see it, many of us do, unfortunately it's a reality. I was going to post a link with many racists signs, posters, billboards and bumper stickers that were created, distributed and displayed by republicans against our President. I chose not to, as they are not difficult to find at all on the web, and they are highly offensive. One thing I do not want to do, is promote any republican driven racist garbage here on this forum. Aside from the internet, I've heard enough racist comments from conservative radio talk shows to assure me that the discrimination against President Barack Obama is alive and well in America.
 
Of course it is racist. In Canada, broadcasters would be removed from the air, and charged with disseminating hatred for far less vitriol than the Far right talk show goons spouting anti Obama racist filth to further pollute the airways. To many non Americans, it appears ludicrous that the same conservatives that bemoan the loss of American stature (respect wise,) globally, promote such blatant hatred/disrespect toward their own Head of State. How can they expect to be taken seriously, by any reasoning, temperate global group?
 
SeaBreeze said:
I'm surprised you don't see it, many of us do, unfortunately it's a reality. I was going to post a link with many racists signs, posters, billboards and bumper stickers that were created, distributed and displayed by republicans against our President. I chose not to, as they are not difficult to find at all on the web, and they are highly offensive. One thing I do not want to do, is promote any republican driven racist garbage here on this forum. Aside from the internet, I've heard enough racist comments from conservative radio talk shows to assure me that the discrimination against President Barack Obama is alive and well in America.
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.....you should see some of the Texas facebook postings.
 
Don't want to Jackie, I've heard enough about them from other sources, too childish and toxic for my liking. Refuse to associate with people like that in real life or online.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Don't want to Jackie, I've heard enough about them from other sources, too childish and toxic for my liking. Refuse to associate with people like that in real life or online.
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I think that's what is actually meant by "wanting to take our country back" Back to the time when racism and bigotry were acceptable.
 
QuickSilver said:
I think that's what is actually meant by "wanting to take our country back" Back to the time when racism and bigotry were acceptable.
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For me, taking our country back means to get away from all this selfish and not Constitutional socialist nonsense about having common incomes for all, poor and rich the same, not sure what all that means other than the first step to communism being preached.

Racism and bigotry are not acceptable today except on some off the wall sites for comments. Some I have tried are so filled with cursing and out right hate that I just go somewhere else. Even MSNBC is far better than many of these web sites I have stumbled into.

On this site when some folks break into these anti religious rants it is wrong. What a religious person thinks works is his idea and that is all. For me to trash someone like that is nothing but hate to the person. So I don't do that at all. Nobody should trash anyone for any reason.
 
BobF said:
For me, taking our country back means to get away from all this selfish and not Constitutional socialist nonsense about having common incomes for all, poor and rich the same, not sure what all that means other than the first step to communism being preached.
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Is there an actual source that a person can point to, that supports the above quoted statements? By the way a legitimate 'source' is not "well, they said so on Fox news", or- "heard about it on Rush's radio show".

Here's what Communist Party USA thinks about income distribution, amongst other things:

The American people are hungry for change. They are overwhelmingly looking for a better life. We know that in the richest country in human history we should not have to be struggling so hard to make ends meet. There should not be so much poverty, insecurity and desperation. There's plenty of money to solve our problems. American workers are the most productive in the world. Each year they create more wealth than any other country in the world. The problem is that under the rules of capitalism and the laws we now have, the bulk of that wealth is monopolized by tiny group of billionaires. The richest 1% of families have $30 trillion in assets - that's $30 million for each of their families Well it's time to change those rules and those laws. Overwhelmingly the American people favor taxing this excessive wealth and using it to meet the needs of the people. - to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, to develop renewable energy industry and to provide high quality free health care and education for all.
The American people are tired of attacks on our living standards and democratic rights by extremist politicians We are tired of the attacks by Republicans like Gov. Kasich on the right of workers to bargain collectively, on the right of everyone to have full access to vote, on the right of women to control their bodies. We support the effort of hard-working, law-abiding immigrants to become citizens and we insist on the elementary right of all people, regardless of the color of their skin, to walk and drive freely in their communities, shop in stores, have their children play with toys in parks without fear of being stopped, arrested,harassed or gunned down by those who dishonor the respected uniform of law enforcement. We are tired of the systemic racism that divides working people and cripples our political strength and we are tired of having to live in communities awash with guns and gun violence solely to satisfy the greed of gun manufacturers and the crazy fantasies of extremists who dream about race war and insurrection. We are tired of the endless wars and we are tired of living with the growing threat of environmental catastrophe.
We can do better. We want a better life.
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Khrushchev and Mao Tse Tung are long gone, as is the Cold War style of communism, so I rather doubt that Communist Party USA has any subversive plans, other than to try to shape America into a more middle class worker friendly society.
 
tnthomas said:
Is there an actual source that a person can point to, that supports the above quoted statements? By the way a legitimate 'source' is not "well, they said so on Fox news", or- "heard about it on Rush's radio show".

Here's what Communist Party USA thinks about income distribution, amongst other things:



Khrushchev and Mao Tse Tung are long gone, as is the Cold War style of communism, so I rather doubt that Communist Party USA has any subversive plans, other than to try to shape America into a more middle class worker friendly society.
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i think your quote is from Sun Tzu's "The Art of War. I like it
 

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