Place is starting to look like a third world Slum

Bretrick, I know some people who are going through this in the area they live in. It's just not in the residential areas, but also at the stores where there are problems. The city officials are down playing it, but when you talk to those who live it, it's sad.

IMO, no one who has moved from their country of origin has the right not to obey the laws/rules of the nation they have moved to. There is no excuse for them not to either already know, or immediately start to learn to speak, read & write that language of the new country. This is part of being able to be successful & make it on your own where you live.

In Spanish class, we were told not to visit another country & be the ugly visitor. We should learn about the culture of the people of that country & go with the flow. Sadly, this isn't being done by a lot of the people coming from other places to our countries.

The ones that are willing to fit into the new country will be successful & welcomed. We have a great Chinese couple who have lived in our town for 25 years. They came here with very little & made something for themselves & their kids. We have a new Mexican restaurant & the family has put a lot of money in the building before they ever opened it. It's been open now for about a year & they are busy.

As long as you have individuals who are willing to overlook, or make excuses for the rules/laws not being followed by these people, things won't get better.
 

One the issue with apartment living especially is many of the tenants don't have to do much other than pay the rent. They don't have the same stake in the unit they way a homeowner/buyer has in a house. Most details are taken care of which allows them time to do others things and/or abuse their privileges.

Every year I see a story or two of a local apartment building fire which are rarely a an electrical issue. Many counties around here it's no open flame rule and no barbeques on deck on porch. Many renters simply don't care in general. It becomes a game of what they can get away with.

Many migrants probably there with subsidized rent which festers somebody else is paying for syndrome.
 
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Lilac said:
IMO, no one who has moved from their country of origin has the right not to obey the laws/rules of the nation they have moved to
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that applies to everyone - it isnt a 'new migrants issue'

the sort of issues OP described are common in blocks of rented multi flats - of course all tenants should obey the rules but these sorts of issues are common regardless of country of origin of tenants.
 

January said:
that applies to everyone - it isnt a 'new migrants issue'

the sort of issues OP described are common in blocks of rented multi flats - of course all tenants should obey the rules but these sorts of issues are common regardless of country of origin of tenants.
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Indeed, laws/rules apply to every one.

However, the OP is about the migrants who are occupying 25 out of the 30 units that are refusing to follow the rules/laws where they now reside ... so this is a migrant issue in this matter.
 
Lilac said:
However, the OP is about the migrants who are occupying 25 out of the 30 units that are refusing to follow the rules/laws where they now reside ... so this is a migrant issue in this matter.
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Most of it is a people living in high density rented flats issue - Not something related to whether they are migrants.
 
Lilac said:
no one who has moved from their country of origin has the right not to obey the laws/rules of the nation they have moved to.
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Oh, I quite agree, and that's why I follow all the rules here in Thailand. I do my 90-day reports to immigration on time and renew my visa every year, as required by law. Unfortunately, however, there are apparently millions of foreigners in my home country who ignore our laws. So, I won't be one to whine when Donald Trump takes the presidency and goes after them.
 
Although most news media that is controlled by Wall Street never explains such per below, a primary reason the government has been letting in so many poor unskilled people into the USA and particularly rich California as I've written several times before, is so there is a massive under supply of affordable residence rentals. So those banks in Australia noticed and decided to play the same game.

Thus immigrant poor often live crammed in above normal numbers in low cost apartments that then jacks up rates and causes many including our citizen poor to move into higher cost middle working class rentals than they want because they have no choice. While pushing many marginally into homelessness. That then in turn puts pressure on middle working class rentals that in turn pushes them into higher cost rentals than they would choose that is the only housing being built. That news media keeps spewing "we need more housing" but then due to construction corps and their bank corporate buddies, only build expensive housing with the lie "its the only way we can make a profit". So yeah we working class citizens are being gamed.

Worse, since the Internet rose that gave them worldwide communication to rich people, they now advertise to the rest of those wealthy of the planet to come to the West Coast and other highly favored places and buy our zillion dollar new homes and you can move in with your extended families, no questions asked! And if that isn't possible mr rich, you can just join our REIT fund.
 
Lilac said:
Indeed, laws/rules apply to every one.

However, the OP is about the migrants who are occupying 25 out of the 30 units that are refusing to follow the rules/laws where they now reside ... so this is a migrant issue in this matter.
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January said:
Most of it is a people living in high density rented flats issue - Not something related to whether they are migrants.
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Again, this thread is about a specific apartment complex where the majority of the residents are foreign nationals failing to abide by the rules.

This isn't a "high density rented flats issue", but an issue of migrants who have no inclination to follow rules/laws of their host country. It's a showing of disrespect not only to that country, but it's citizens as well.

Your using the "high density rented flats issue" as an excuse for their behavior. :(
 
The residents have paid their own way here. At least that is what I can deduce. Mostly Asian, and Africans
I say they have paid their own way purely on seeing their possessions. Many of them have large, late model 4WD vehicles.
One lady became very boisterous when I pointed out how to dispose of rubbish. One man laughed at me when I asked him if he had read the pamphlet I gave him the week before. When I look in the bins, a large number of the "How To" pamphlets were throw out, unopened.
From what I have seen, they will do as they please.
The Estate Agent has a scheme going that if residents recommend a new tenant that is accepted then that person will receive a $200 gift card.
I have not seen a caucasian person being shown a unit here for more than 4 years. All foreign.
There is no need for the Estate Agent to advertise. Obviously she is receiving plenty of recommendations when a place becomes vacant.
 
Bretrick said:
The residents have paid their own way here. At least that is what I can deduce. Mostly Asian, and Africans
I say they have paid their own way purely on seeing their possessions. Many of them have large, late model 4WD vehicles.
One lady became very boisterous when I pointed out how to dispose of rubbish. One man laughed at me when I asked him if he had read the pamphlet I gave him the week before. When I look in the bins, a large number of the "How To" pamphlets were throw out, unopened.
From what I have seen, they will do as they please.
The Estate Agent has a scheme going that if residents recommend a new tenant that is accepted then that person will receive a $200 gift card.
I have not seen a caucasian person being shown a unit here for more than 4 years. All foreign.
There is no need for the Estate Agent to advertise. Obviously she is receiving plenty of recommendations when a place becomes vacant.
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these are some of the travails of once being a great empire - it all comes back to haunt you when you lose your standing in the modern world?
 
I hear you @Bretrick …regarding spitting …:eek: filth …B.O …stench of some…..partially some of the women dressed all in black

rubbish ..even on highway 1 ..we travel on and so would you if you traveled all the way from Perth ….to SA ….

it’s littered like a third world country .

It’s very noticeable where I live , during holidays …..but in Adelaide where we mainly shop …. nah ..

Not sayin anymore of I’d get the finger pointed at me for being racist ……
 
Bretrick said:
The residents have paid their own way here. At least that is what I can deduce. Mostly Asian, and Africans
I say they have paid their own way purely on seeing their possessions. Many of them have large, late model 4WD vehicles.
One lady became very boisterous when I pointed out how to dispose of rubbish. One man laughed at me when I asked him if he had read the pamphlet I gave him the week before. When I look in the bins, a large number of the "How To" pamphlets were throw out, unopened.
From what I have seen, they will do as they please.
The Estate Agent has a scheme going that if residents recommend a new tenant that is accepted then that person will receive a $200 gift card.
I have not seen a caucasian person being shown a unit here for more than 4 years. All foreign.
There is no need for the Estate Agent to advertise. Obviously she is receiving plenty of recommendations when a place becomes vacant.
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The realestate agent is contributing to making the place a slum IMO ….IMG_2264.gif
 
Kadee said:
I hear you @Bretrick …regarding spitting …:eek: filth …B.O …stench of some…..partially some of the women dressed all in black

rubbish ..even on highway 1 ..we travel on and so would you if you traveled all the way from Perth ….to SA ….

it’s littered like a third world country .

It’s very noticeable where I live , during holidays …..but in Adelaide where we mainly shop …. nah ..

Not sayin anymore of I’d get the finger pointed at me for being racist ……
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do you have any evidence who's litter it is - is it labelled in some way - many of us could /have been accused of littering at some time in life I'm sure often of the teenage type?
 
Kadee said:
I hear you @Bretrick …regarding spitting …:eek: filth …B.O …stench of some…..partially some of the women dressed all in black

rubbish ..even on highway 1 ..we travel on and so would you if you traveled all the way from Perth ….to SA ….

it’s littered like a third world country .

It’s very noticeable where I live , during holidays …..but in Adelaide where we mainly shop …. nah ..

Not sayin anymore of I’d get the finger pointed at me for being racist ……
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Sure, I think I will cease posting on this thread.
 
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Lilac said:
Again, this thread is about a specific apartment complex where the majority of the residents are foreign nationals failing to abide by the rules.

This isn't a "high density rented flats issue", but an issue of migrants who have no inclination to follow rules/laws of their host country. It's a showing of disrespect not only to that country, but it's citizens as well.

Your using the "high density rented flats issue" as an excuse for their behavior.
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am not making any excuses for their behaviour - except the hanging washing on balconies because I can understand how that is much easier than lugging it downstairs and safer than leaving it unattended on washing lines.

I suggested putting wrong rubbish in bins could be a misunderstanding instructions issue - because I think most people if they bother to put rubbish in bins would put it i n the right one

Nowhere did I say any other problem behaviour was ok or make excuses for it- what I did say it that isnt something specific to migrants - so most of it isnt a migrant issue but a renters in high density housing issue

The same issue that occurs in poorly managed units of any country of origin tenants
 
Bretrick said:
The residents have paid their own way here. At least that is what I can deduce. Mostly Asian, and Africans
I say they have paid their own way purely on seeing their possessions. Many of them have large, late model 4WD vehicles.
One lady became very boisterous when I pointed out how to dispose of rubbish. One man laughed at me when I asked him if he had read the pamphlet I gave him the week before. When I look in the bins, a large number of the "How To" pamphlets were throw out, unopened.
From what I have seen, they will do as they please.
The Estate Agent has a scheme going that if residents recommend a new tenant that is accepted then that person will receive a $200 gift card.
I have not seen a caucasian person being shown a unit here for more than 4 years. All foreign.
There is no need for the Estate Agent to advertise. Obviously she is receiving plenty of recommendations when a place becomes vacant.
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Hang on.

so you dont know if these people are Australians or not, just that they are not white?

you do know Austrlaians come in all colours? as do immigrants to Australia?
 
smiley said:
regardless of its origins and practices it is a local govt issue and needes dealing with officially not ignored - BUT is it being reported enough and regularly?
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if it is a privately owned block of flats, which it sounds like - then it is not a local govt issue if no laws are being broken

it is the real estate agent on behalf of the owners who needs t o deal with private rules being broken.
 
I am sorry to hear that your block is going south. Start looking. It may take a while but occasionally Lady Luck may shine on you.that
David777 said:
Although most news media that is controlled by Wall Street never explains such per below, a primary reason the government has been letting in so many poor unskilled people into the USA and particularly rich California as I've written several times before, is so there is a massive under supply of affordable residence rentals. So those banks in Australia noticed and decided to play the same game.

Thus immigrant poor often live crammed in above normal numbers in low cost apartments that then jacks up rates and causes many including our citizen poor to move into higher cost middle working class rentals than they want because they have no choice. While pushing many marginally into homelessness. That then in turn puts pressure on middle working class rentals that in turn pushes them into higher cost rentals than they would choose that is the only housing being built. That news media keeps spewing "we need more housing" but then due to construction corps and their bank corporate buddies, only build expensive housing with the lie "its the only way we can make a profit". So yeah we working class citizens are being gamed.

Worse, since the Internet rose that gave them worldwide communication to rich people, they now advertise to the rest of those wealthy of the planet to come to the West Coast and other highly favored places and buy our zillion dollar new homes and you can move in with your extended families, no questions asked! And if that isn't possible mr rich, you can just join our REIT fund.
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Considering the hoops of legal immigration to the US and Australia - where do the poor uneducated masses come from and how did they get in?
 
January said:
am not making any excuses for their behaviour - except the hanging washing on balconies because I can understand how that is much easier than lugging it downstairs and safer than leaving it unattended on washing lines.

I suggested putting wrong rubbish in bins could be a misunderstanding instructions issue - because I think most people if they bother to put rubbish in bins would put it i n the right one

Nowhere did I say any other problem behaviour was ok or make excuses for it- what I did say it that isnt something specific to migrants - so most of it isnt a migrant issue but a renters in high density housing issue

The same issue that occurs in poorly managed units of any country of origin tenants
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Your offering the same excuses for what they are doing :(.

As far as the "misunderstanding instructions issue", the OP passed out pamphlets to the tenants so they had the information on the rules. He was laughed at when he asked if the info was read & then treated badly by another when he tried to help her by explaining where garbage goes. Then the pamphlets were found unopened in the trash. Help was offered & refused ... these aren't actions by people who want to fit in or even have an intention to do so or to do the right thing.

If these issues occur at the apartments in their country of origin, that is their home countries problem for not correcting it & allowing such filthy conditions to exist. This is not an excuse to move to another country & turn the new country into a cesspool just like where they came from.

Not hanging laundry in the proper areas is laziness & saying it's not safe to do so is just another excuse for refusing to follow the rules.

What they did in their country of origin is that country's problem. In no way should it be allowed to become a problem in the country they chose to move to.

It's clear we don't see this the same. I see it as a problem that will only get worse. You don't see it as a problem at all.

We will have to agree to disagree.
 

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