Newsweek reports United States is the 2nd most hated country in the world

[Who_so_ever]

 

[Teacher Terry]

I read today that many Canadians are selling the properties they have here in the states according to real estate agents. I love how the Canadians are united in showing their displeasure with the nonsense that's happening.

I don’t blame Canadians at all since we are purposely ruining their economy. I know that they are not traveling to the USA either for the same reasons.

China uses restrictions on people’s CC’s to control them. They can also limit the items you can buy from stores. They also limit transportation cards so that you can only travel so far. They use all these methods to control what people say and do.

I’m using cash for dining out and small items. Everyone should keep using some cash because if everything is on a card the government could use money to control its citizens. They are already marking people dead in social security that they know aren’t dead but it brings your financial life to a halt with devastating consequences if not quickly reversed.

 

[Inept]

Newsweek reports United States is the 2nd most hated country in the world​

I don't know what the American press is claiming but internationally we almost never even use the term "hate" in any context. Actually, I am willing to bet that the term "hate" is in the imagination of Newsweek and the word probably wasn't even expressed by those who were interviewed. What is true is that the US has been voted the BIGGEST THREAT TO WORLD PEACE. But this is nothing new. It has been common knowledge for decades if not the whole century. But "hate"? I'm pretty sure the American news media made it up to entice readers.

 

[Who_so_ever]

PLOT TWIST!

 

[smiley]

Newsweek reports United States is the 2nd most hated country in the world​

Nah it changes with the wind from week to week - the research methodologies are usually very shoddy and then as mentioned they make the most provocative headlines as we know all news outlets do to get attention. If this is hurting USA and citizens in anyway I feel sorry about that but unfortunately if you get in the news limelight frequently you get noticed good or bad?

 

[hollydolly]

I don’t blame Canadians at all since we are purposely ruining their economy. I know that they are not traveling to the USA either for the same reasons.

China uses restrictions on people’s CC’s to control them. They can also limit the items you can buy from stores. They also limit transportation cards so that you can only travel so far. They use all these methods to control what people say and do.

I’m using cash for dining out and small items. Everyone should keep using some cash because if everything is on a card the government could use money to control its citizens. They are already marking people dead in social security that they know aren’t dead but it brings your financial life to a halt with devastating consequences if not quickly reversed.

This is precisely what's happening, and if people think it can't happen in the west they're very wrong, and it can and is happening very quickly...

Already here we have very few Banks in our cities and towns, in a matter of just a few short years they've closed, 64% of our physical banks.. and another almost 400 to close this year...

The excuse is that people bank online... certainly some truth in that, and even more so because of the lack of physical bankig, but it also means that with the closure of bricks and mortar banks there's nowhere to deposit or withdraw cash.

 

[dilettante]

I had the impression that banking only exists in the UK at all these days through massive government subsidy.

 

[hollydolly]

I had the impression that banking only exists in the UK at all these days through massive government subsidy.

No Not true !

 

[dilettante]

The implicit subsidy of banks

This paper examines the implicit subsidy of UK banks by the government and the associated distortions in the financial system. It explains why the subsidy arises, why it is a public policy concern and explores how it can be quantified.​

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Quantifying the implicit subsidy to banks has generated considerable interest over recent years. The numbers are striking, both in their sheer scale, but also in their variation. Estimates of the implicit subsidy to major UK banks vary from around £6 billion (Oxera (2011)) to over £100 billion (Bank of England (2010)). This paper explains the divergence between these estimates, examines their dependence on differing underlying assumptions, and proposes a new alternative means of quantification.​

 

[hollydolly]

The implicit subsidy of banks

This paper examines the implicit subsidy of UK banks by the government and the associated distortions in the financial system. It explains why the subsidy arises, why it is a public policy concern and explores how it can be quantified.​

​

Quantifying the implicit subsidy to banks has generated considerable interest over recent years. The numbers are striking, both in their sheer scale, but also in their variation. Estimates of the implicit subsidy to major UK banks vary from around £6 billion (Oxera (2011)) to over £100 billion (Bank of England (2010)). This paper explains the divergence between these estimates, examines their dependence on differing underlying assumptions, and proposes a new alternative means of quantification.​

It's not in any way my area of expertise, or even great knowledge but this is what I know and have learned...


.....
Subsidies after 2008:
The UK government injected billions of pounds into the banking system after the financial crisis to prevent widespread failures. This is seen by some as a form of subsidy.

• Indirect government support:
  The Bank of England (BoE) maintains special deposit accounts for commercial banks to facilitate payments between them, according to Funding the Future. This is not a direct subsidy but a system designed to ensure the financial stability of the banking sector.
  
  
• Regulation and Supervision:
  The Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) regulates the financial services industry to protect consumers and maintain stability. This also contributes to the overall health of the banking sector, according to GOV.UK.
  
  
• Current Situation:
  While banks still operate as commercial entities and are expected to be profitable, the UK government plays a crucial role in ensuring a stable financial system, which can be seen as indirect support.
  

 

[dilettante]

I'm just saying that branch closures might indicate systemic stress.

 

[hollydolly]

I'm just saying that branch closures might indicate systemic stress.

well it might, however the most likely scenario is , the cashless system ...and not only that...bricks and mortar stores are closing at a rate of Knots... 13,000 alone in 2024.... 12,000 before that...16,000 before that....


remember we're a very small Island, smaller than Oregon... with an over population ..of around 70 million...

losing literally thousands of shops every single year along with the banks, points to all digital transactions in the future

 

[oslooskar]

I don't know what the American press is claiming but internationally we almost never even use the term "hate" in any context. Actually, I am willing to bet that the term "hate" is in the imagination of Newsweek and the word probably wasn't even expressed by those who were interviewed. What is true is that the US has been voted the BIGGEST THREAT TO WORLD PEACE. But this is nothing new. It has been common knowledge for decades if not the whole century. But "hate"? I'm pretty sure the American news media made it up to entice readers.

I completely agree with you, Inept. Honest journalism is pretty much dead in the United States. Most of what passes for "news" today is either sensationalism designed to stir emotions or carefully crafted narratives to push an agenda. A perfect example was the Covington Catholic incident, where the media rushed to paint a group of high school boys as racists based on a short, misleading video clip.

Only later, when the full footage came out, did it become clear that the boys had done nothing wrong, but by then the damage was done. Lawsuits followed, and some major outlets quietly settled. It showed just how reckless and dishonest much of the American media has become, and how little regard they have for truth when there's a narrative to sell. In fact, when I first saw the video on the news, I knew the story about the boys was bullsh*t, and I was truly shocked at how many people I knew gobbled it up as the gospel truth.

 

[Teacher Terry]

This is precisely what's happening, and if people think it can't happen in the west they're very wrong, and it can and is happening very quickly...

Already here we have very few Banks in our cities and towns, in a matter of just a few short years they've closed, 64% of our physical banks.. and another almost 400 to close this year...

The excuse is that people bank online... certainly some truth in that, and even more so because of the lack of physical bankig, but it also means that with the closure of bricks and mortar banks there's nowhere to deposit or withdraw cash.

A few years ago I never would have thought that people would be fooled by a con man and risk losing our democracy. Yet that’s exactly where we are.

So I definitely believe that the government would try to control us by controlling our money. A few years ago I would have told people to put on their tin foil hat yet that’s exactly what’s happening. So many people in America such as scientists, teachers, former politicians are ringing the alarm bells yet half of the country is pretending it’s business as usual.

 

[Inept]

Newsweek reports United States is the 2nd most hated country in the world​

Nah it changes with the wind from week to week - the research methodologies are usually very shoddy and then as mentioned they make the most provocative headlines as we know all news outlets do to get attention.

Well said.

If this is hurting USA and citizens in anyway I feel sorry about that but unfortunately if you get in the news limelight frequently you get noticed good or bad?

True.

 

[Inept]

I completely agree with you, Inept.

Thank you.

Honest journalism is pretty much dead in the United States.

Over here also. Look at the UK as well: The BBC was the beacon of honest journalism and now it's become something that I can only describe in four-letter words.

Most of what passes for "news" today is either sensationalism designed to stir emotions or carefully crafted narratives to push an agenda.

Yes.

.... just how reckless and dishonest much of the American media has become, and how little regard they have for truth when there's a narrative to sell.

As I was saying, it's not only the American MSM. We've all got an MSM in power, that is to say a censorship against all other news sources.

 

[Twostep]

This is precisely what's happening, and if people think it can't happen in the west they're very wrong, and it can and is happening very quickly...

Already here we have very few Banks in our cities and towns, in a matter of just a few short years they've closed, 64% of our physical banks.. and another almost 400 to close this year...

The excuse is that people bank online... certainly some truth in that, and even more so because of the lack of physical bankig, but it also means that with the closure of bricks and mortar banks there's nowhere to deposit or withdraw cash.

It looks like the 400+ closing in 2024 were brick and mortar branches. Do you know which bank actually closed in 2024?

 

[chic]

There are 350,000.000 people in the U.S. and we all have different beliefs and opinions on a myriad of topics I think we'll get through this, but it would be nicer and would happen faster with the support of our allies.

 

[Magna-Carta]

I don't know what the American press is claiming but internationally we almost never even use the term "hate" in any context. Actually, I am willing to bet that the term "hate" is in the imagination of Newsweek and the word probably wasn't even expressed by those who were interviewed. What is true is that the US has been voted the BIGGEST THREAT TO WORLD PEACE. But this is nothing new. It has been common knowledge for decades if not the whole century. But "hate"? I'm pretty sure the American news media made it up to entice readers.

I think this thread lost its way at least 16 pages or more ago.

The most fascinating thing about this thread, now that we are 646 posts deep, is that it all began with a Newsweek article built largely on the 'opinion' of two writers (allegedly journalists), who themselves were interpreting the results of various public 'opinion' surveys.

Those surveys being based purely on the 'opinions' of the people who responded to them. This thread is mostly our 'opinions' of an 'opinionated' article of the 'opinions' of others, with some cultural stereotypes thrown in for good measure. You see where this is going, right? This thread was never going to come to a conclusion, was it. Especially when some then felt it necessary to introduce moral bombshells and rhetorical steamrolling of others. Some seem to thrive on that type of thing, as though it is a personal necessity.

As I've said in an earlier post, we know nothing about who was surveyed, what the questions were, how representative the data might be, or even what methodology was used to analyse it all. But somehow, this long chain of loosely tethered 'opinions' at times goes into a full-blown battlefield -- with some attempting at humour to try to pull it out again.

What we then see here is some people getting genuinely passionate, and in some cases, downright combative, as they offer up their own 'opinions' on the 'opinions' of journalists and of a survey they know little about. And no doubt some of these people think they are clever!

Then the thread seems to spiral into some kind of feedback loop, where we are all treated to increasingly fervent posts, some of which attempt to anchor the conversation with historical or moral arguments that often feel like they were transported in from a number of entirely different threads. What a fascinating spectacle, and we have all become part of the show. Who really are the clever ones here?

 

[Twostep]

A few years ago I never would have thought that people would be fooled by a con man and risk losing our democracy. Yet that’s exactly where we are.

So I definitely believe that the government would try to control us by controlling our money. A few years ago I would have told people to put on their tin foil hat yet that’s exactly what’s happening. So many people in America such as scientists, teachers, former politicians are ringing the alarm bells yet half of the country is pretending it’s business as usual.

Can we please get off political rants.

 

[David777]

I think this thread lost its way at least 16 pages or more ago...
Then the thread seems to spiral into some kind of feedback loop, where we are all treated to increasingly fervent posts...

Not WE. Most of us left this thread after making brief posts near the start leaving it to those that hijack threads or have a tendency to bait others and argue excessively on their soap box as though this small web community has an audience that will ever make a difference, unlike big social media.

 

[Who_so_ever]

Maybe if new, interesting threads were started more often, people wouldn't flock back to the few active ones..... ?

 

[Magna-Carta]

Maybe if new, interesting threads were started more often, people wouldn't flock back to the few active ones..... ?

Hmmm...?

As a bloke from the UK, I’ve occasionally been tempted to drop a long post in the 'handbag' thread, just for the hell of it. It does seem quite a popular thread.

Not entirely sure what’s holding me back... Maybe the worry that someone within that 'handbag' thread might actually think I’m being serious.

 

[Who_so_ever]

Hmmm...?

I’ve occasionally been tempted to drop a long post in the handbag thread, just for the hell of it. It does seem quite a popular thread.
Not entirely sure what’s holding me back... Maybe the worry that someone might actually think I’m being serious.

Better idea, drop a long post in a new thread and we can go hang out there for 12 days.

 

[Inept]

As I've said in an earlier post, we know nothing about who was surveyed, what the questions were, how representative the data might be ...

I’ll take a couple of guesses:
1). “Do you hate the US? Yes or no?”
2). “On a scale from one to ten ... how much do you hate the US?”

... or even what methodology was used to analyse it all.

I am fairly certain that any reply other than, "I actually love America" would be interpreted as "hatred".

The most fascinating thing about this thread, now that we are 646 posts deep, is that it all began with a Newsweek article built largely on the 'opinion' of two writers (allegedly journalists), who themselves were interpreting the results of various public 'opinion' surveys.

Those surveys being based purely on the 'opinions' of the people who responded to them. This thread is mostly our 'opinions' of an 'opinionated' article of the 'opinions' of others, with some cultural stereotypes thrown in for good measure. You see where this is going, right? This thread was never going to come to a conclusion, was it. Especially when some then felt it necessary to introduce moral bombshells and rhetorical steamrolling of others. Some seem to thrive on that type of thing, as though it is a personal necessity.

But somehow, this long chain of loosely tethered 'opinions' at times goes into a full-blown battlefield -- with some attempting at humour to try to pull it out again.

What we then see here is some people getting genuinely passionate, and in some cases, downright combative, as they offer up their own 'opinions' on the 'opinions' of journalists and of a survey they know little about. And no doubt some of these people think they are clever!

Then the thread seems to spiral into some kind of feedback loop, where we are all treated to increasingly fervent posts, some of which attempt to anchor the conversation with historical or moral arguments that often feel like they were transported in from a number of entirely different threads. What a fascinating spectacle, and we have all become part of the show. Who really are the clever ones here?

I couldn’t have said it better if I had an unlimited pass to the library after hours.