Millennials found to want it all for little effort!

Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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It seems these young workers expect big pay and a lot of praise due to too many parents telling them "good job" for anything and rewarding them too much. This could be the usual older generation finding fault with the younger or there could be truth found here. Your thoughts are always welcome even if not agreed with...
 

I'm trying to remember where I saw this recently - whether online or TV. Yes, the study used pointed to the Millenials feeling entitled, but interestingly enough a lot of them agreed.

Me, being a tail-end Baby Boomer, also agree. But not MY generation! We had to fight for everything we got! We walked uphill, both ways, in the snow! :playful:
 
Poor lad, but the "I like Ike" generation, mine, had to put on our galoshes and go out and shovel that snow...
 

I suppose it's hard for the pendulum to not swing to the extremes....Is that the only way forward motion/evolution can continue? Or will it someday be possible for us to find that happy middle road that we can all go trucking along, getting what we all need (sometimes what we want:rolleyes:) and we're ALL smiling when our journey's done?
 
The parents of the new Millennial generation, the Gen-Xers, are the children of the baby boomers. Boomer women were concerned with independence.. We wanted careers, we fought for womens' rights.. we had a high divorce rate.. many of us worked and "latch Key" kids were prevalent. A far cry from how we were raised, by the stay at home moms of the 50s. Maybe it's the Gen-X generations way of doing the opposite of how they were raised.. they did coddle their kids and were a tad over protective. So it is the pendulum you speak of Debby... just another swing.
 
So where are swinging back to ? The swingers of the swinging seventies?��
 
Entitled says it. Technology hasn't helped. Then there is cross contamination of this sense of entitlement.

Necessity is the mother of invention so maybe one day they'll get it.
 
Piffle, lol, my son and nephew worked hard to get an education, still paying off student loans. My daughter in law is in her final year of Law. No entitlement here, just discipline and hard work. Every new generation since time immemorial is targeted by a
proportion of older people as less than previous generations. It is natural to prefer our contemporaries, and the way things were.
 
Shalimar said:
Piffle, lol, my son and nephew worked hard to get an education, still paying off student loans. My daughter in law is in her final year of Law. No entitlement here, just discipline and hard work. Every new generation since time immemorial is targeted by a
proportion of older people as less than previous generations. It is natural to prefer our contemporaries, and the way things were.
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You have exceptional people in the family. But there are entire peer groups that are entitled. The people with the most problems in the family are the youngest here and they do feel entitled, have no patience and are not grinders ie spend 30-40 years doing the samething with one or two companies oh the humanity Might not be the entire generation but 'entitled' or spoiled is much more prevalent now.
 
Respectfully, WhatInThe, I disagree. My experience with this generation has been different, although I appreciate your compliments to my family. At work I deal with people from multiple generations. People are people, some feel entitled, others do not. I was a flower child, part of the counter culture for years, in some ways I still am. Certainly far less conservative than my children. My bourgeous, elitist, professional family were horrified, projected gloom and doom all over my future. I was one of the people they had warned me against. Tabernac! Lol. Obviously they were wrong. Stereotypes are just that, blanket judgements subject to the flaws of personal prejudice.
 
Shalimar said:
Respectfully, WhatInThe, I disagree. My experience with this generation has been different, although I appreciate your compliments to my family. At work I deal with people from multiple generations. People are people, some feel entitled, others do not. I was a flower child, part of the counter culture for years, in some ways I still am. Certainly far less conservative than my children. My bourgeous, elitist, professional family were horrified, projected gloom and doom all over my future. I was one of the people they had warned me against. Tabernac! Lol. Obviously they were wrong. Stereotypes are just that, blanket judgements subject to the flaws of personal prejudice.
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Here I see desire but no follow through and/or patience. The lack of patience is what I really notice, in part due to that pesky technology. Multi step process or a process that finishes out a couple years down the road-ouch. Money is simply a tool to them like a drill or hammer. No planning, just get it for their next venture. They only reason I put a label on them they are the youngest, went to school around the same time same area along with the same pop culture trends, fads and attitudes. I find it no coincidence yet the oldest have much more traditional desired resumes results if you will.
 
Maybe some of the older generations resent how because of technology things in today's world have changed for the better to make life easier for everyone, not only millennials. There are snowblowers now, no need to shovel til you drop. People have transportation, don't need to walk miles in broken shoes in a snowstorm to get to a one-room school. Unlike many of our generation, kids get praise for accomplishments, not critical nitpicking. Millennials are often educated, have good paying jobs, nice clothes and help from family and friends, and yes, expect to enjoy their lives, not to suffer like previous generations before them.
 
I was born while we were still in the throes of the great depression. Schools were short on any praise but long on punishment. Races on the schoolyard only had a winner and second and third, the rest were losers. We learned not to expect unearned rewards and praise. It served me well and was the reason I could spend a little over 30 years with one company and worked hard for and earned promotions. It's not my doing, that background as a kid, it was the way it was and I am glad.
 
Well, people who worked hard because they had to can be commended and it served them well at the time, as things were tough all over the whole world, and much worse in Europe I might add, but things have changed, and self-righteous complaints about the young don't fly and are not helpful.
 
Cookie said:
Maybe some of the older generations resent how because of technology things in today's world have changed for the better to make life easier for everyone, not only millennials. There are snowblowers now, no need to shovel til you drop. People have transportation, don't need to walk miles in broken shoes in a snowstorm to get to a one-room school. Unlike many of our generation, kids get praise for accomplishments, not critical nitpicking. Millennials are often educated, have good paying jobs, nice clothes and help from family and friends, and yes, expect to enjoy their lives, not to suffer like previous generations before them.
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There some elders that don't even want to learn new technology or have an appreciation for what it can do I get that. But there are also those that haven't learned the right tool for the right job or work with what you have. And you can't always get or have the Rolls Royce of anything. I know young who had money troubles and were given, a gift of a android smart phone and got ridiculed for not getting them an I-Phone "it's not a smart phone, unless it's an I-PHONE". I don't know it made calls, could text and access the internet. I know others who only had a half a dozen screws to put in and they took more time to find their power drill and screw driver bit than it would've taken with an old fashioned $2 screw driver. There are people out there that cannot work out if they don't have music in their ear, is that new modern techology or an ASSumption that music IS required to workout.
 
I concur Cookie. Also, many millenials even university grads are finding it difficult to find jobs. For some it can take two degrees with huge student loans. Doesn't sound easy to me. I think too, there are older people who view the university educated as pampered ivory tower types, out of touch with the real world. Riiiiight. My son worked in the University of Victoria cafeteria for years while he studied for his degree. Sigh. Slinging hash sounds pretty real to me.
 
I'm not sure what your point is, What, most people are either handy or not in different areas, including older people.

What I see here is that old timers are constantly kvetching about the young and seem to be unhappy, maybe because they want validation and appreciation for having done things 'the hard way' and never got it, and now seeing that the young have it much easier, so are feeling cheated, somehow. Just a guess.
 
I so agree Shali, my son too -- I was a single parent and never had the bucks to pay for uni for my son, but he got a scholarship and loans and put himself through, working part time in the research lab. On the other hand, a friends daughter got an inheritance when her father died and had the money to pay for school. Some of my son's other friends didn't even make it to university, even with rich parents, having other serious family problems to deal with. Things are not always as they seem.
 
Things are so much different in some other countries than here in America. Here years ago when we turned 18 we had to sign up for our draft card. Most my age are ex-military. We all learned in service early on to do as you are told without debate. Now our young haven't faced a draft in years, they are taught to "defend" their rights. Now, if the school get's them angry they strike, or worse by far they shoot up the school and kill. Maybe early rewards for just breathing is a good thing, but the news does not bear that out.
 
Cookie said:
I'm not sure what your point is, What, most people are either handy or not in different areas, including older people.

What I see here is that old timers are constantly kvetching about the young and seem to be unhappy, maybe because they want validation and appreciation for having done things 'the hard way' and never got it, and now seeing that the young have it much easier, so are feeling cheated, somehow. Just a guess.
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It's not about being 'handy' as a matter of fact for the casual handy person a hand tool would be just as easy and quick for many of the jobs they do. When I said 'right tool for the right job' that was ment to show that modern is not necessarily the right tool. If you have 25 foot of sidewalk of snow you use a shovel, if you have a driveway and 50 foot of sidewalk of snow then yes the snow blower is the preferred tool. If you don't have the money for a snow blower but if you have money & time to shovel and are physically capable you shovel even though slower. One has to learn with what they actually have, especially budget wise.

I'd never thought I'd see the day I would comment on the younger generation and I'm frequently impressed and/or pleasantly surprised. But I remember when cell phones started to drop in price and became more accessable. The younger generation was not only the first to buy them but to use them with regularity. BUT there is a time and place for everything. I expect the cashier checking me out at a store to be focusing on their job and not the latest mindless text or call from their friend rarely making eye contact, not paying attention to me -the customer their reason for being. Let alone getting the money right. That's just plain old rude & poor customer service. That's just one example of some of the ignorance of the younger generation, not everyone with a phone acted that way but I saw that more than a few times in different stores and job/occupations. It took time for the work rules to catch up but when left to their own devices literally and figuratively they came off as a rude & ignorant generation.
 
In the good old days, lynching black people was one way some twisted disaffected people dealt with their rage. Doing as they were told without debate sure got a lot of young men and women killed, maimed etc in the futile Vietnam war. Remember Agent Orange? Some vets are still fighting that war. Doesn't seem all that preferable to me. Thinking for themselves does not produce killers. Unlimited access to guns for disturbed people does. Canada does not have the draft either, but we also don't have the mass shooting mayhem. A culture which accepts violence, to no surprise, begets violence.
 
You seem to be in blame the kids mode -- or blame mode in general. Things are a big mess and life as we know it is very complex. It has always been so and people do the best they can. Do you really think that forcing the kids into the army is the answer to the ills of the world. They did that in Vietnam and we saw how that worked out.

It sounds like this might be about the college shooting. If so, the problem is much bigger than kids with I-phones.
 
Hmm. I guess the Canadian young are different. I have never seen store workers using their phones while dealing with customers. Nor are they rude. That would get them fired pronto. From 7 eleven to professionals, my experience with the young has been very positive. Sadly, some of the older workers are grumpy.
 
Shalimar said:
Hmm. I guess the Canadian young are different. I have never seen store workers using their phones while dealing with customers. Nor are they rude. That would get them fired pronto. From 7 eleven to professionals, my experience with the young has been very positive. Sadly, some of the older workers are grumpy.
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Seriously? No Canadian kids are ever RUDE???
 

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