Immigration Is Damaging Britain...You Don't Say....I Didn't Know That!!!

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/re...-Britain-says-Camerons-interior-minister.html


MANCHESTER, England, Oct 6 (Reuters) - Mass immigration is damaging British society, Conservative interior minister Theresa May said on Tuesday, promising a tough approach on an issue that will influence Britons' choice of whether or not to leave the European Union.

"When immigration is too high, when the pace of change is too fast, it's impossible to build a cohesive society," May, seen as a possible future leader, told a party conference in the northern city of Manchester.

Mass immigration strained public services like schools and hospitals, depressed wages and pushed people out of work, she said, describing the economic benefits as "close to zero".

Net migration to Britain reached a high of 330,000 people in the year to March, far above the "tens of thousands" Prime Minister David Cameron promised to reduce it to. More than half comes from EU nationals, who are free to move within the 28-country bloc.

That has fuelled support for rival parties, especially the anti-EU UK Independence Party, and is looming as a major issue in the referendum on Britain's EU membership that Cameron has promised to call by the end of 2017.

May's speech went down well with party activists but drew criticism from the Institute of Directors, an employers' group.

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It has been a no brainer for me that uncontrolled Mass Immigration will damage ANY country over time. But it looks like the UK government have finaly cottoned on!

Of course they won't be able to do anything about it while GB is in the EU, so as far as I am concerned this is just so much hot air.

AGAIN !!!:mad:
 

And the good chance that the UK will be leaving the EU was one of my reasons for voting for Scotland independence. And Scotland would welcome migrants.
 
You can have too much of a 'good thing', get too many and it's not long before they start demanding changes to the society you have known all your life just to fit in with their beliefs. They don't believe in the word compromise.
 

Fern said:
You can have too much of a 'good thing', get too many and it's not long before they start demanding changes to the society you have known all your life just to fit in with their beliefs. They don't believe in the word compromise.
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Yes Fern, and here is a fine example of what you say, written by Littlejohn out of the british Daily Mail...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ausing-offence-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

Now they even want to BAN bacon sarnies: Report that said products should be banned at work is yet another example of the national obsession with not causing offence, writes RICHARD LITTLEJOHN

What was I saying on Friday about how the national obsession with not causing offence to anyone is bordering on mental illness?

That was in reaction to a week which had seen an RAF sergeant kicked out of a hospital waiting room for wearing his uniform because it could offend 'other cultures' and a students' union banning sombreros on the grounds that they were a racist insult to Mexicans.

If you thought those two examples were rip-roaring bonkers, then what are we to make of a new report that seeks to ban bacon sarnies and microwaved sausage rolls?

According to someone described as the Professor of Faith and Public Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London, consumption of pork-related products at work could seriously upset non-Christian colleagues — not to mention vegetarians.

Adam Dinham has drawn up a 'religious literacy' programme aimed at employers, commissioned by an outfit called CoExist and a 'professional services' firm EY, whatever that is.

He says companies must take account of the religious sensibilities of everyone from Muslims and Jews to Buddhists, Sikhs and Scientologists. Fair enough. That's still no reason to ban ham sandwiches from communal kitchens, though.
 
boozercruiser said:
Yes Fern, and here is a fine example of what you say, written by Littlejohn out of the british Daily Mail...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ausing-offence-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

Now they even want to BAN bacon sarnies: Report that said products should be banned at work is yet another example of the national obsession with not causing offence, writes RICHARD LITTLEJOHN

What was I saying on Friday about how the national obsession with not causing offence to anyone is bordering on mental illness?

That was in reaction to a week which had seen an RAF sergeant kicked out of a hospital waiting room for wearing his uniform because it could offend 'other cultures' and a students' union banning sombreros on the grounds that they were a racist insult to Mexicans.

If you thought those two examples were rip-roaring bonkers, then what are we to make of a new report that seeks to ban bacon sarnies and microwaved sausage rolls?

According to someone described as the Professor of Faith and Public Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London, consumption of pork-related products at work could seriously upset non-Christian colleagues — not to mention vegetarians.

Adam Dinham has drawn up a 'religious literacy' programme aimed at employers, commissioned by an outfit called CoExist and a 'professional services' firm EY, whatever that is.

He says companies must take account of the religious sensibilities of everyone from Muslims and Jews to Buddhists, Sikhs and Scientologists. Fair enough. That's still no reason to ban ham sandwiches from communal kitchens, though.
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Can you confirm these stories with another source? I tend to take anything in the Daily Mail with a grain of salt.
 
Ameriscot said:
And the good chance that the UK will be leaving the EU was one of my reasons for voting for Scotland independence. And Scotland would welcome migrants.
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Hi Ameriscot.

We usually agree on most thing I do believe.:D
BUT, if you read that article, the problem is not controlled imigration, but uncontrolled MASS IMMIGRATION.

If you don't mind MASS immigration
(Net migration to Britain reached a high of 330,000 people in the year to March),
then good luck to Scotland with that!
But for me, mass imigration has caused no end of problems in England.
The indiginous population is getting swamped by people with far different cultures than us.
Our hospitals are swamped, our schools are swamped and there arn't enough jobs or housing to cope with unlimited amounts of people coming here.!
I could rant for England on this one, but I guess I have said enough, and you get the gist!? :D
 
boozercruiser said:
Yes Fern, and here is a fine example of what you say, written by Littlejohn out of the british Daily Mail...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ausing-offence-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

Now they even want to BAN bacon sarnies: Report that said products should be banned at work is yet another example of the national obsession with not causing offence, writes RICHARD LITTLEJOHN

What was I saying on Friday about how the national obsession with not causing offence to anyone is bordering on mental illness?

That was in reaction to a week which had seen an RAF sergeant kicked out of a hospital waiting room for wearing his uniform because it could offend 'other cultures' and a students' union banning sombreros on the grounds that they were a racist insult to Mexicans.

If you thought those two examples were rip-roaring bonkers, then what are we to make of a new report that seeks to ban bacon sarnies and microwaved sausage rolls?

According to someone described as the Professor of Faith and Public Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London, consumption of pork-related products at work could seriously upset non-Christian colleagues — not to mention vegetarians.

Adam Dinham has drawn up a 'religious literacy' programme aimed at employers, commissioned by an outfit called CoExist and a 'professional services' firm EY, whatever that is.

He says companies must take account of the religious sensibilities of everyone from Muslims and Jews to Buddhists, Sikhs and Scientologists. Fair enough. That's still no reason to ban ham sandwiches from communal kitchens, though.
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I agree that this type of ban on bacon rolls at work etc are ridiculous. I am not anti-Muslim but this is just too much! If we immigrated to a Muslim country do you think they would make changes to their culture to accommodate us? Not a chance. When anyone immigrates to a different culture you can't and shouldn't try to change the culture to accommodate you. If one can't accept the new culture, then leave.

I think it would be a disaster for GB to leave the EU. I don't read up on everything about this issue. I'm not directly affected in my area. But I can see how it would be a difficult issue in the big cities. I don't know the answer.
 
330.000 additional people on a crowded island doesn't bode well for anyone. Do 330,000 new jobs await as do 330,000 housing units?
 
The advice … stipulates that employees should be careful of the kinds of foods prepared in communal kitchens in case it upsets colleagues of certain faiths … Professor Adam Dinham suggests not microwaving sausage rolls in a shared kitchen space. He also advises that you should not keep bacon, or bacon rolls, in the fridge if it is shared with people whose beliefs prohibit them from eating pork.


As the excerpt above clarified, the purported “ban” in actuality merely referenced new voluntary guidelines proposed by London-based interfaith group Coexist House Not only were details of the guidelines not provided for review (calling into question whether they even strongly emphasized sensitivity to Muslims over other faiths), but even the nebulous description provided of them in no way described any form of “ban.”

No government agency in the U.S. or UK had a hand in the development of whatever the guidelines contained, nor was any individual or workplace in any way obliged to abide by them.


http://m.snopes.com/offices-ban-pork-muslims
 
Pam said:
The advice … stipulates that employees should be careful of the kinds of foods prepared in communal kitchens in case it upsets colleagues of certain faiths … Professor Adam Dinham suggests not microwaving sausage rolls in a shared kitchen space. He also advises that you should not keep bacon, or bacon rolls, in the fridge if it is shared with people whose beliefs prohibit them from eating pork.


As the excerpt above clarified, the purported “ban” in actuality merely referenced new voluntary guidelines proposed by London-based interfaith group Coexist House Not only were details of the guidelines not provided for review (calling into question whether they even strongly emphasized sensitivity to Muslims over other faiths), but even the nebulous description provided of them in no way described any form of “ban.”

No government agency in the U.S. or UK had a hand in the development of whatever the guidelines contained, nor was any individual or workplace in any way obliged to abide by them.


http://m.snopes.com/offices-ban-pork-muslims
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So how long do you think so called 'voluntary' guidlines and 'advice' will last then Pam?
I reckon around 5 minutes!:cool:
 
WhatInThe said:
330.000 additional people on a crowded island doesn't bode well for anyone. Do 330,000 new jobs await as do 330,000 housing units?
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Or Hospitals or all of the other infrastructor items that are needed because of MASS imigration.

But to the above amount can be added the millions of immigrants who arrived before that.
The UK is FULL.
End Of!

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/ex...n-damages-Britain-Theresa-May-Express-comment

Theresa May makes it official - Immigration damages Britain

She spells out very clearly the threat to the fabric of our society. At a time when the Chancellor is rightly trying to take an axe to borrowing and spending, the record rise in immigration is forcing Britain to fund the building of 210,000 new homes every year and provide 900,000 new school places in the next nine years – Mrs May’s figures, not mine.

Anyone who has tried to get a doctor’s appointment or who has been unlucky enough to go to A&E knows only too well the intolerable pressure that is being put on the NHS. Anyone whose children or grandchildren have recently left school shares the despair of those who find it impossible to get a job.

She spells out very clearly the threat to the fabric of our society
As Mrs May puts it: “When immigration is too high, when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society. It’s difficult for schools and hospitals and core infrastructure like housing and transport to cope. And for people in low-paid jobs, wages are forced down even further while some people are forced out of work altogether.”

She paints a bleak and desperate picture which is entirely accurate and which heaps shame on those zealots of multi-culturalism in the last Labour government who opened the floodgates and sat gloating as the destruction of our country gathered pace.

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/609675/Squalid-evil-slums-immigration-Britain

Squalid evil slums: What immigration is doing to Britain

What was it Jeremy Corbyn told his gloating faithful at the Labour Party conference this week? Oh yes... mass immigration is "nothing but a plus" for Britain. It's "not necessarily a problem" and should be seen as an opportunity. Corbyn says we should "celebrate" the influx of four million immigrants.

Tell that to the people of the West Midlands, Slough, Ealing, Hounslow, Bradford, Kent - in fact just about every built-up area in the land. Tell them the appalling squalor, the mattresses in the gardens, the stinking piles of rubbish, the human waste in the street, the overcrowded primary schools, the jam-packed A&E and doctors' receptions, the dirt, the decay and the deprivation are a cause for celebration.

 
boozercruiser said:
Yes Fern, and here is a fine example of what you say, written by Littlejohn out of the british Daily Mail...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ausing-offence-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

Now they even want to BAN bacon sarnies: Report that said products should be banned at work is yet another example of the national obsession with not causing offence, writes RICHARD LITTLEJOHN

What was I saying on Friday about how the national obsession with not causing offence to anyone is bordering on mental illness?

That was in reaction to a week which had seen an RAF sergeant kicked out of a hospital waiting room for wearing his uniform because it could offend 'other cultures' and a students' union banning sombreros on the grounds that they were a racist insult to Mexicans.

If you thought those two examples were rip-roaring bonkers, then what are we to make of a new report that seeks to ban bacon sarnies and microwaved sausage rolls?

According to someone described as the Professor of Faith and Public Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London, consumption of pork-related products at work could seriously upset non-Christian colleagues — not to mention vegetarians.

Adam Dinham has drawn up a 'religious literacy' programme aimed at employers, commissioned by an outfit called CoExist and a 'professional services' firm EY, whatever that is.

He says companies must take account of the religious sensibilities of everyone from Muslims and Jews to Buddhists, Sikhs and Scientologists. Fair enough. That's still no reason to ban ham sandwiches from communal kitchens, though.
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What ever happened to assimilation. It's the migrants that should be worried about not offending the host they imposed themselves on.
 
WhatInThe said:
What ever happened to assimilation. It's the migrants that should be worried about not offending the host they imposed themselves on.
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You have got to be joking WhatIn The.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/52...-Anjem-Choudary-rejects-authority-British-law

Radical Islamic cleric declares BRITISH law is invalid...in BRITAIN

RADICAL cleric Anjem Choudary sparked fury today by declaring he 'doesn't accept' that British law is valid in the UK.

The 46-year-old hate preacher made the extraordinary statement when asked if jihadist fighters returning from Syria should have their passports confiscated and be charged under anti-terror laws.

Choudary blasted: "I don't accept British law. If you have a law, you need to apply it universally. These laws are only being applied against Muslims.

"This [anti-terror legislation] is purely being hyped-up to support the bombing campaign that is taking place in Iraq and Syria."

He also spoke of his support for Islamic State (ISIS) and claimed a ban on jihadists returning to Britain would 'alienate' the Muslim community.

He added: "If these guys have actually not committed any crime in England, then why are we stopping them returning?

"I think it's a very ill thought-out policy, I don't think it will work.

"I think it will disenfranchise the Muslim community here, I think it would be a cause of further radicalisation in this country."

Choudary has always denied that he has incited or glorified acts of terrorism.


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Not when this is allowed to happen, some immigrants arn't bovvered about offending us at all!
 
boozercruiser said:
You have got to be joking WhatIn The.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/52...-Anjem-Choudary-rejects-authority-British-law

Radical Islamic cleric declares BRITISH law is invalid...in BRITAIN

RADICAL cleric Anjem Choudary sparked fury today by declaring he 'doesn't accept' that British law is valid in the UK.

The 46-year-old hate preacher made the extraordinary statement when asked if jihadist fighters returning from Syria should have their passports confiscated and be charged under anti-terror laws.

Choudary blasted: "I don't accept British law. If you have a law, you need to apply it universally. These laws are only being applied against Muslims.

"This [anti-terror legislation] is purely being hyped-up to support the bombing campaign that is taking place in Iraq and Syria."

He also spoke of his support for Islamic State (ISIS) and claimed a ban on jihadists returning to Britain would 'alienate' the Muslim community.

He added: "If these guys have actually not committed any crime in England, then why are we stopping them returning?

"I think it's a very ill thought-out policy, I don't think it will work.

"I think it will disenfranchise the Muslim community here, I think it would be a cause of further radicalisation in this country."

Choudary has always denied that he has incited or glorified acts of terrorism.

Not when this is allowed to happen, some immigrants arn't bovvered about offending us at all!
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They're trying to force the narrative that all these migrants are victims along with planting more seeds for a one world government with fewer borders. UK already has to deal with the EU. Perpetuate "victim" enough and many will have pity and before you know it's one big pity party: mob rule-not the citizens but what ever the mob consists of at that time.
 
WhatInThe said:
They're trying to force the narrative that all these migrants are victims along with planting more seeds for a one world government with fewer borders. UK already has to deal with the EU. Perpetuate "victim" enough and many will have pity and before you know it's one big pity party: mob rule-not the citizens but what ever the mob consists of at that time.
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Well said.
I could not have put that better myself What.
 
Pam said:
The advice … stipulates that employees should be careful of the kinds of foods prepared in communal kitchens in case it upsets colleagues of certain faiths … Professor Adam Dinham suggests not microwaving sausage rolls in a shared kitchen space. He also advises that you should not keep bacon, or bacon rolls, in the fridge if it is shared with people whose beliefs prohibit them from eating pork.


As the excerpt above clarified, the purported “ban” in actuality merely referenced new voluntary guidelines proposed by London-based interfaith group Coexist House Not only were details of the guidelines not provided for review (calling into question whether they even strongly emphasized sensitivity to Muslims over other faiths), but even the nebulous description provided of them in no way described any form of “ban.”

No government agency in the U.S. or UK had a hand in the development of whatever the guidelines contained, nor was any individual or workplace in any way obliged to abide by them.


http://m.snopes.com/offices-ban-pork-muslims
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It's just common sense. We are having a church Market Day next Saturday. I'm running the Kitchen Café and I have invited some Muslim women to come for a visit. There will be bacon cooked outside on the BBQ and we will have some ham sandwiches in the café but I am not making any bacon and cheese topped scones for the café because when warmed up, the smell would be offensive to people who don't or aren't allowed to eat it. Instead we will have savoury scones with cheese and onion or with Kalamata olives served with a bowl of home made pumpkin soup. Perfectly halal for the Muslims and also very acceptable to the Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and vegetarians.

Small accommodations don't hurt anybody and are very much appreciated.
 
Warrigal said:
It's just common sense. We are having a church Market Day next Saturday. I'm running the Kitchen Café and I have invited some Muslim women to come for a visit. There will be bacon cooked outside on the BBQ and we will have some ham sandwiches in the café but I am not making any bacon and cheese topped scones for the café because when warmed up, the smell would be offensive to people who don't or aren't allowed to eat it. Instead we will have savoury scones with cheese and onion or with Kalamata olives served with a bowl of home made pumpkin soup. Perfectly halal for the Muslims and also very acceptable to the Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and vegetarians.

Small accommodations don't hurt anybody and are very much appreciated.
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Yes Warrigail, with respect, that is all well and good.
BUT.
I want a Bacon and Cheese topped Scone at your lovely Kitchen Cafe on Saturday.
I would fly over to Australia just to have one, and to be with you.:D
But I can't have a lovely and tasty, Bacon and Cheese Topped Scone.
Can I?
Immigration caused that.
Case proved! :playful::D

'Now they even want to BAN bacon sarnies: Report that said products should be banned at work is yet another example of the national obsession with not causing offence, writes RICHARD LITTLEJOHN

What was I saying on Friday about how the national obsession with not causing offence to anyone is bordering on mental illness'?
 
boozercruiser said:
Yes Warrigail, with respect, that is all well and good.
BUT.
I want a Bacon and Cheese topped scone at your lovely Kitchen Cafe on Saturday.
But I can't have one, can I?
Immigration caused that.
Case proved! :playful::D

'Now they even want to BAN bacon sarnies: Report that said products should be banned at work is yet another example of the national obsession with not causing offence, writes RICHARD LITTLEJOHN

What was I saying on Friday about how the national obsession with not causing offence to anyone is bordering on mental illness'?
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No you can't, because I am in charge of the kitchen and I am also the cook but you can have a hamburger with the works at the BBQ.
Also I have not yet expanded my repertoire to include bacon and cheese scones anyway but if I was thinking of it this year I decided not to BECAUSE I HAVE INVITED SOME MUSLIM WOMEN AS MY GUESTS. It's manners, mate.

We have a play group at the church and occasionally we have some Sikh mothers attend. We still serve meat, including beef, but we also make sure there are sandwich fillings that are acceptable to Sikhs. How is this an example of immigration ruining anything? Talk about a storm in a tea cup.
 
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Warrigal said:
No you can't, because I am in charge of the kitchen and I am also the cook but you can have a hamburger with the works at the BBQ.
Also I have not yet expanded my repertoire to include bacon and cheese scones anyway but if I was thinking of it this year I decided not to BECAUSE I HAVE INVITED SOME MUSLIM WOMEN AS MY GUESTS. It's manners, mate.

We have a play group at the church and occasionally we have some Sikh mothers attend. We still serve meat, including beef, but we also make sure there are sandwich fillings that are acceptable to Sikhs. How is this an example of immigration ruining anything? Talk about a storm in a tea cup.
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Well it is pretty obvious that you and I are just going to beg to differ on this subject Warrigal
Never mind.
I will keep away from that storm in your teacup now!:D
After all, I don't want to get wet now.
Do I?:cool:

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:grin: Just as well Boozer and a tea cup is all you'll get at the church market day.
Alcohol is unavailable too, and that has nothing to do with any muslim prohibition.
We're Methodists by another name.
 
Here in the US, I made the mistake of wearing a t-shirt with the American flag on it on cinco de Mayo. I went grocery shopping, and the manager of the store told me to leave.

I was offending Mexican-Americans, so he said. He said I could come back with a different shirt on.

On the outside of this store was the American flag on a pole. The flag was flying as usual.

I replied, "I will when you take down that flag outside. And if you do, I'll never shop here and again and tell everyone I know never to shop here."

He said, "I can't. It's company policy to have the flag out there."

"Excellent," I smiled. "And it's my personal policy, as I gave nearly 26 years in the Army for this country, to wear whatever I want, whenever I want. Have a nice day."

I walked off and continued shopping. He followed me a little, giving me the stink-eye, but I ignored him.

Gaaaaahhhhhh!!

I don't think I'd refuse to cook bacon or pork products around Muslims unless I were in a Muslim country. Manners are one thing, yep, but being run over is quite another.
 

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