I Am A SKIN! ! Are You? !

Just in case you don't know, a SKIN is someone who is...
Spending Kids Inheritance Now! In other words, I want to enjoy the fruits of all my years hard working, and spend my money NOW!:D
I really am not interested in leaving behind pots of money for the Kids to fritter away. I can do that! :D
Perhaps leaving just enough money behind for the burial and a wake once I pop my clogs! Am I being selfish? Am I being mean?
Arguably yes, and arguably no. I would be very interested in hearing other peoples views on this.
 

I think there is no right answer here Boozer. Depends on the person and the situation. As long as your adult kids etc are not starving through no fault of their own--I feel it is your money to do with as you wish. Myself, I shelled out big time for my

kid's expenses while they were struggling with university, while still maintaining jobs. They are hard workers, and I was pleased to be able to help. They needed financial assistance far more while they were building their futures, than an

inheritance at some later date. I am certain they will be there for me in my golden years, should I require it. For now, they are paying off huge student loans, my DIL is in her final year of law. Wow! Are those four years expensive! Hello, sixty grand!!
 

I'm still working full time at age 68... 69 next month. My regular golf buddy is always giving me fits about retiring. Last week, he was on one of his typical rants. "When are you going to retire? You need to play more golf and work less!" One of our son-in-laws is in our regular group. All of a sudden, the SIL says, "Would you shut up!!" My golf partner goes silent and looks at him. "My wife is in his will. He can work until he's 82 for all I care! The more he leaves, the more we'll have to spend!"

We all got a good laugh. Of course, our golf days are "loose" with lots of fun anyway.
 
So you know your use by date, eh Boozer?
What happens if you outlive your money pot?


Aaaaaahhhhgggg well what do you know.
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My very own resident stalker is participating in this thread as well!

Warrigal, I am hoping that my use be date is a hell of a lot of years away.
BUT.
One never knows.
Recently I had open hear surgery to replace the Aortic Valve, and repair an Aortic Aneurism. 11 hours under the knife I was!
So this perhaps makes one think of ones immortality!
Right now I feel really great, and can walk for miles, and even Rock N Roll!
Do you fancy a Jive then?

:D
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Aaaaaahhhhgggg well what do you know.
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My very own resident stalker is participating in this thread as well!

:lol: I hope that was a joke because I'm not actually stalking you or anyone else. I just wondered what a SKIN was.

Warrigal, I am hoping that my use be date is a hell of a lot of years away.
BUT.
One never knows.
Recently I had open hear surgery to replace the Aortic Valve, and repair an Aortic Aneurism. 11 hours under the knife I was!
So this perhaps makes one think of ones immortality!
Right now I feel really great, and can walk for miles, and even Rock N Roll!
Do you fancy a Jive then?

:D
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Not really, I've just recovered from a hip replacement and although the hip is fine now, I still have a dicky knee.

The question about the use by date stems from conversations hubby and I had with a financial advisor. Hubby asked him how much money we would need in retirement. He said he could answer that question if we could provide him with the exact date when we would die.

Planning to spend everything before that unknowable date is taking a big gamble. It's probably a lot more fun than economising on living to ensure a fat inheritance for the kids and grand kids. I'm not planning a life of self deprivation in my last years but neither am I going to blow the bank balance on things I don't need or want. At the moment we're spending money on our health, then if time permits, we'll go on another cruise.
 
Not really, I've just recovered from a hip replacement and although the hip is fine now, I still have a dicky knee.

The question about the use by date stems from conversations hubby and I had with a financial advisor. Hubby asked him how much money we would need in retirement. He said he could answer that question if we could provide him with the exact date when we would die.

Planning to spend everything before that unknowable date is taking a big gamble. It's probably a lot more fun than economising on living to ensure a fat inheritance for the kids and grand kids. I'm not planning a life of self deprivation in my last years but neither am I going to blow the bank balance on things I don't need or want. At the moment we're spending money on our health, then if time permits, we'll go on another cruise.

And of course I was only joking regarding the stalker mention.
Mind you Warrigal, I quite like the idea of that!:D

Reading your post there, you probably have your way just about right.

Part of were I am coming from is this...

Around 25 years ago my Daughter and hubby came into £250,000.
250 British Pound equals
383.16 US Dollar
They bought a fancy house, had lots of parties, had lots of lovely holidays etc. etc. etc.
In just two years ALL of that money was gone, including the house.
Now she is living on her own (Hubby long divorced) in a council house and on benefits.

Do I really want to leave anything now for her to know doubt fritter my money away like that?

The answer of course is NO!!!:cool:

So SKIN it is! :D
 
Yes, my sister's husband won $1,000,000 on Tattslotto some years ago.
Now in retirement he's still working at 73 and he wants to give it up.
They will have to sell their house, bought with the Lotto money, and move to a less expensive location.
All of the rest of the win has been dissipated long ago.
He spent like a drunken sailor and made himself popular with his mates by throwing his money around.

Our kids are welcome to anything that is left when we pass on but they already have had their inheritance - good educations, help with raising their families and some help with getting established in their houses. Our son separated from his wife and blew his financial security but has since recovered to the point where he happy with his life. Both our son and our daughter are captains of their own ships. They don't expect further help from us. Quite the opposite, they expect to be responsible for our welfare in the years to come. Using POA our daughter will manage our money for our benefit. I'm happy with that.
 
I am letting my children have what they need now so that the wife and I can see them enjoying it and be settled before we kick the bucket.

We are thinking about signing the rest of the estate over to them so that they not have to pay inheritance tax, which will have a clause saying that we can live the rest of our days in our home before they can rent out or dispose of our home or land.
 
I am letting my children have what they need now so that the wife and I can see them enjoying it and be settled before we kick the bucket.

We are thinking about signing the rest of the estate over to them so that they not have to pay inheritance tax, which will have a clause saying that we can live the rest of our days in our home before they can rent out or dispose of our home or land.
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15 years ago I gave my oldest daughter $30,000 so she could buy a house for her family, I took $20,000 off the cost of my house so my son could buy my home with a pool. Are they both still friendly with their Dad...Hell no.
Do I do or say something wrong? To this day I haven't the faintest idea.
Should have gave it to a homeless shelter...grrrrrrt
 
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15 years ago I gave my oldest daughter $30,000 so she could buy a house for her family, I took $20,000 off the cost of my house so my son could buy my home with a pool. Are they both still friendly with their Dad...Hell no.
Do I do or say something wrong? To this day I haven't the faintest idea.
Should have gave it to a homeless shelter...grrrrrrt

And my Daughter isn't speaking to me either.
After she went through all of that money she tried to borrow off me.
Of course the answer was NO.

That was 20 years ago, and she hasn't talked to me since!

Mind you, she doesn't yet know that she is written out of my Will!
Anything left over after I pop my clogs is going to my lovely Sister and wonderful nephews.:D

But then, if I pop my clogs before my Wife SHE will inherit everything.
I have warned her though.
NO Toy Boys! :mad::cool::D

O.K. I could have called the thread.
SSHN Now (Spending Sisters Inheritance Now) but you get the grift!:D
 
Well, I am not particularly concerned in leaving anyone a whole buncha money, but I sure don't want to outlive my money either. So I spend what I need, but no frittering for me!

My next project is a new furnace. Yikes! It's always something.
 
I will leave a life insurance policy for one family members, the only one to pay any attention to me since I lost my husband and son. The rest came one time to ask for money, got some, and I haven't heard from them since. So I gave away about 1/3 of my savings before I woke up to the reality of what was happening to me. Now I will be selling my home of over 25 years, so that I can build a down sized home, and still be able to live within my means.

It is hard when you think you have raised a family that stays together, only to find that some will die, and others will not even care. But, I'm only 63, and I refused to fall over, or disappear.
 
Ina, I don't know if it's helpful, but I have found in my life, that at times the best family can be family of choice--related in heart. You exude warmth and integrity. Not a lot of that going around sometimes. Many would be honoured, I suspect, to have the chance to share a part of your life. I have a friend whom I call my heart's own brother. I love him immensely. May you find the same.
 
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I really wonder how families get so estranged that parents and children never see each other and some don't even speak, although I've seen it happen often enough.
Could there be unresolved grievances and conflict, or do the kids relocate because of job requirements or marry and move away, and then their lives differ so much that they have nothing much in common.

Many members of my family moved to different places around the globe, but when when the time came, all was forgiven and forgotten, and the estates were divided equally among the descendants. I would never cut my own son off from his inheritance, no matter what.
 
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Both of us coming from very dysfunctional families, we analyzed that question. We even talked it over with our children. We paid for their educations, (all have degrees). Paid for their first weddings, their honeymoons and bailed them out financially several times over the years. Upon retirement (me 64, wife 63) we sat down with pen in hand and planned our future.

We checked into cremations (our choice), housing needs, desirable locations and health care. We both receive SS/Medicare and I also have a livable pension. We figured what we needed to have for our final expenses and salted about double that away in a money market account. Set up a sizable (by my standards) emergency fund in a savings account. We paid cash for our residence, paid off our autos (limit our expectations for future transportation needs), we pay cash for everything (no credit cards only debit). My wife will get my SS and 100% of my pension until her passing. My income compared to hers is about 5 to 1 so she's protected financially.

My children were given every tangible item we didn't need after retirement and were told that we will not be leaving anything other than what is left over in our MM and emergency funds. They get the home, any autos (even if it's only salvage). I had a 401K but after 2009 I panicked and pulled it out, paid the taxes on it and paid off everything we had, took a 30 day auto tour of the US, furnished our new home, bought my wife a new car and somewhere over time spent the rest. We sold our home of 20 years, used the equity to buy our current residence, move and got setup in what we hope is our last home. We set up smaller savings accounts for our 6 grandchildren that we hope they are replenishing.

So no I'm not planning to leave any inheritance and my children expect none. They are all making more than I ever did annually and each has made plans of their own financially. The most trusted child (widowed with no plans to remarry) has our POAs/all our current passwords, electronic copies of 10 years of tax returns, financial account information, location of our safety deposit box (containing several copies all our titles, birth certificates, marriage licenses,,,etc) and all have copies of our will and DNRs. We have an annual update meeting with them, me being OCD is their cross to bear.

I don't want them to go through what we did when our parents passed. The only thing they will need to obtain is a few extra copies of the death certificate of the surviving spouse.
 
I will leave a life insurance policy for one family members, the only one to pay any attention to me since I lost my husband and son. The rest came one time to ask for money, got some, and I haven't heard from them since. So I gave away about 1/3 of my savings before I woke up to the reality of what was happening to me. Now I will be selling my home of over 25 years, so that I can build a down sized home, and still be able to live within my means.

It is hard when you think you have raised a family that stays together, only to find that some will die, and others will not even care. But, I'm only 63, and I refused to fall over, or disappear.

Well done Ina.
I like your style, and you are obviously nobody's fool!
 
Both of us coming from very dysfunctional families, we analyzed that question. We even talked it over with our children. We paid for their educations, (all have degrees). Paid for their first weddings, their honeymoons and bailed them out financially several times over the years. Upon retirement (me 64, wife 63) we sat down with pen in hand and planned our future.

We checked into cremations (our choice), housing needs, desirable locations and health care. We both receive SS/Medicare and I also have a livable pension. We figured what we needed to have for our final expenses and salted about double that away in a money market account. Set up a sizable (by my standards) emergency fund in a savings account. We paid cash for our residence, paid off our autos (limit our expectations for future transportation needs), we pay cash for everything (no credit cards only debit). My wife will get my SS and 100% of my pension until her passing. My income compared to hers is about 5 to 1 so she's protected financially.

My children were given every tangible item we didn't need after retirement and were told that we will not be leaving anything other than what is left over in our MM and emergency funds. They get the home, any autos (even if it's only salvage). I had a 401K but after 2009 I panicked and pulled it out, paid the taxes on it and paid off everything we had, took a 30 day auto tour of the US, furnished our new home, bought my wife a new car and somewhere over time spent the rest. We sold our home of 20 years, used the equity to buy our current residence, move and got setup in what we hope is our last home. We set up smaller savings accounts for our 6 grandchildren that we hope they are replenishing.

So no I'm not planning to leave any inheritance and my children expect none. They are all making more than I ever did annually and each has made plans of their own financially. The most trusted child (widowed with no plans to remarry) has our POAs/all our current passwords, electronic copies of 10 years of tax returns, financial account information, location of our safety deposit box (containing several copies all our titles, birth certificates, marriage licenses,,,etc) and all have copies of our will and DNRs. We have an annual update meeting with them, me being OCD is their cross to bear.

I don't want them to go through what we did when our parents passed. The only thing they will need to obtain is a few extra copies of the death certificate of the surviving spouse.

All of that sounds pretty much spot on Son.:D
You have obviously got it all sorted out, depending on your particular circumstances and family situation.
 
Like yourself S.O.P. the wife and I have arranged all funeral requirements so that our children have nothing to worry about whilst grieving. All our paperwork is up to date in our safe, and both children have access anytime they wish.

Both my children have access to our bank accounts also, to some people that would be a no-no, but there again we do trust them. After all, if we were both to end up with Alzheimer's or some other medical condition which would render us incapable of handling our affairs they would have to step in and get `Power of Attorney`. This way they have control.

Roy
 
I live alone now. My entire remaining family is my oldest son, and two grandsons. I lived a pretty solitary life as a kid. Growing up on the edges of poverty, I learned to enjoy life with very little. I had a great wife and family life for over half a century. That was all I ever really wanted out of life.
I now live on SS plus a 300. monthly pension. Believe it or not, I come out ahead by about 600. a month. I have no life insurance, but about 180,000. in an IRA, and a debt free house and car.
My son divorced three years ago and gave up just about everything in exchange for not paying alimony. He is happily remarried now, ( a great gal ), and is in a new house with a mortgage. At fifty he is putting his financial life back together.
I have serious problems walking, so my life revolves around my computer, TV, toilet and bed. I am content to just meditate on life and the absurdity of it all.
My son is my sole beneficiary, and has my POA. I treat my assets as if they were already his. I use them for my own needs as I see fit, but if its a matter of putting major money into the house, I always ask him what he thinks.
Everyone's circumstances differ. There is no one size fits all answer to this. I certainly have witnessed how even the closest relationships can change in an instant.
 
Both of us coming from very dysfunctional families, we analyzed that question. We even talked it over with our children. We paid for their educations, (all have degrees). Paid for their first weddings, their honeymoons and bailed them out financially several times over the years. Upon retirement (me 64, wife 63) we sat down with pen in hand and planned our future.

We checked into cremations (our choice), housing needs, desirable locations and health care. We both receive SS/Medicare and I also have a livable pension. We figured what we needed to have for our final expenses and salted about double that away in a money market account. Set up a sizable (by my standards) emergency fund in a savings account. We paid cash for our residence, paid off our autos (limit our expectations for future transportation needs), we pay cash for everything (no credit cards only debit). My wife will get my SS and 100% of my pension until her passing. My income compared to hers is about 5 to 1 so she's protected financially.

My children were given every tangible item we didn't need after retirement and were told that we will not be leaving anything other than what is left over in our MM and emergency funds. They get the home, any autos (even if it's only salvage). I had a 401K but after 2009 I panicked and pulled it out, paid the taxes on it and paid off everything we had, took a 30 day auto tour of the US, furnished our new home, bought my wife a new car and somewhere over time spent the rest. We sold our home of 20 years, used the equity to buy our current residence, move and got setup in what we hope is our last home. We set up smaller savings accounts for our 6 grandchildren that we hope they are replenishing.

So no I'm not planning to leave any inheritance and my children expect none. They are all making more than I ever did annually and each has made plans of their own financially. The most trusted child (widowed with no plans to remarry) has our POAs/all our current passwords, electronic copies of 10 years of tax returns, financial account information, location of our safety deposit box (containing several copies all our titles, birth certificates, marriage licenses,,,etc) and all have copies of our will and DNRs. We have an annual update meeting with them, me being OCD is their cross to bear.

I don't want them to go through what we did when our parents passed. The only thing they will need to obtain is a few extra copies of the death certificate of the surviving spouse.

Excellent, S.O.P.! Sounds like you drew the right lessons from a tough beginning. :applause2:
 
Like yourself S.O.P. the wife and I have arranged all funeral requirements so that our children have nothing to worry about whilst grieving. All our paperwork is up to date in our safe, and both children have access anytime they wish.

Both my children have access to our bank accounts also, to some people that would be a no-no, but there again we do trust them. After all, if we were both to end up with Alzheimer's or some other medical condition which would render us incapable of handling our affairs they would have to step in and get `Power of Attorney`. This way they have control.

Roy

Way to go. We have some pretty wise people on here.
 
I agree Cookie. but both of my sons are gone, and the grandchidren's lifes have them scattered all over. I know nothing of them, and do not wish to intrude just because I find myself alone. So I must find the courage to build a toially different style of living. It is scary, and at the same time, challenging.
 
Ina, that is very brave and adventurous. Sorry your sons are gone, but you might find that your grandchildren would welcome your making some connection. My own son has had no contact with his grandparents on his father's side, the grandmother is still alive at 98, but even though he would welcome some communication with her, if she was interested, but she never was, sadly, and now its too late.
 


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