The War With Isis Can Never Be Won

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The War With Isis Can Never Be Won


Until the Isis Belief System and the rewards of Martyrdom are totally discredited Isis will continue to grow and appeal to some Muslims as well as non Muslims, but who will effectively be able to do the discrediting, and do it in a manner that Isis members themselves will believe the discrediting?

I don't advocate this, but until every Muslim on earth ceases to exist this so called war will never end
 

It does look to be a "lose'lose" situation but I don't see that killing every last Muslim as a solution...anymore than killing every last "infidel" on the Earth would be.
 
Lon, the problem is not with Muslim's generally. It is with the radicalized muslim's who are a different breed. I don't know how we defeat them, it seems each victory only causes more to join in with the fanatics. I am at a loss as to what to do.
 

tnthomas said:
It does look to be a "lose'lose" situation but I don't see that killing every last Muslim as a solution...anymore than killing every last "infidel" on the Earth would be.
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I did not say anything about killing every last Muslim, maybe the Tooth Fairy can make them Disappear.
 
I get what Lon is saying - "every Muslim on Earth ceases to exist" could mean a tsunami washes over them all or they suddenly all break into a flash-mob and sing "Saturday in the Park" until they drop; technically he didn't say HOW.

But Lon - you know that people will assume the worst. (Buddha knows I've found that out!)
 
Finally! After reading the first 10 posts noncommittally I think I have for the first time understood how one or two words either mis-intentionally used, or misunderstood, start a row. It sort of snowballs.

Now I know how to start a fracas, monkey-wrench style! Ha! imp
 
I believe when the root causes of terrorism are addressed, terrorism will dissipate considerably. Until then, we apply band aids of one kind or another. Some believe the west culpable to some degree in the creation of ISIL. World powers have a tendency to favour short term expediency over long term sensibility. It almost always ends badly.
 
imp said:
Finally! After reading the first 10 posts noncommittally I think I have for the first time understood how one or two words either mis-intentionally used, or misunderstood, start a row. It sort of snowballs.

Now I know how to start a fracas, monkey-wrench style! Ha! imp
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What do you mean by "fracas", buddy? You got something against the fracases?!? :mad:

;)
 
applecruncher said:
@SifuPhil:
so.....what do you have against Chicago? :mad:
I suppose you also never liked Herb Alpert & TJB.
Or are you just a "Brass Hater" in general?
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:D

I have nothing at all against Chicago - I rather enjoyed them back in the day, in between bouts of Pink Floyd and Yes. They restored my sanity for the next round of weird music.

Now Herb is a different story, although I never really listened to enough of his stuff to give an honest answer.

Satchmo, though? He was a gift from the gods.

So no, not a brass hater - just a badly-played brass hater.
 
Hmm. As I recall orthodox Jews observe dietary restrictions also. Hindus do not eat beef. This pagan will not eat bunny, lamb, veal, or pâté. Many Baptists refrain from alcohol. Why does any of this matter?
 
SifuPhil said:
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I have nothing at all against Chicago - I rather enjoyed them back in the day, in between bouts of Pink Floyd and Yes. They restored my sanity for the next round of weird music.

Now Herb is a different story, although I never really listened to enough of his stuff to give an honest answer.

Satchmo, though? He was a gift from the gods.

So no, not a brass hater - just a badly-played brass hater.
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Well, sir, I'll have you know I had ALL of TJB's albums (my brother salivated at the cover of "Whipped Cream"....google it and you'll see why), and I wept openly like a baby when Herb and TJB stopped making music. :cry:

Okay, you're not a brass bigot. Carry on!
 
applecruncher said:
Well, sir, I'll have you know I had ALL of TJB's albums, and I wept openly like a baby when they stopped making music. :cry:
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Oh, did they stop? That must be the 3:15 bus I hear with the bad brakes.

JUST KIDDING! :cower:

I too wept openly when Oingo Boingo retired in '95 - their Dead Man's Party was a thing of beauty.


Okay, you're not a brass bigot. Carry on!
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Thank you - you can be sure I will, usually in the most offensive manner possible. ;)
 
I've never understood this thing about eating pork. Vegetarianism is rational; you don't want animals killed and eaten. I suppose there is a history to it, but science and common sense indicates nothing will happen to you if you eat a good barbecue pork sandwich. It's like going back to the Dark Ages or to a time when science and logic were not considered.
 
John C said:
I've never understood this thing about eating pork. Vegetarianism is rational; you don't want animals killed and eaten. I suppose there is a history to it, but science and common sense indicates nothing will happen to you if you eat a good barbecue pork sandwich. It's like going back to the Dark Ages or to a time when science and logic were not considered.
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That's the basis of religion.
 

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