The drum beat to war

All the Sunday TV talk shows. This is a Game change we have to go to war with ISIS.

They just do not seem to learn. Our past wars have made this mess in the middle east.

So lets make a bigger mess? Not a good plan I think.

The people in the mess need to find a balance they can live with. Because they are the ones that live there!

It's not some war game to play when we get pissed. The Paris terrorist attack like will not be the last one.

We need to work for the long-term and train the people to fix their country so it works for them,
 

QFT. Inspector. But self awareness is too painful for most people. It is so much easier to swallow the pablum our leaders feed us than think for ourselves. Working for long term equitable solutions requires harmony, dedication, hard work, and a certain
unselfishness. Many are not up to the task.
 
I've always hoped that nations could learn from history and bitter experience, but I seriously doubt that will be the case.

We may well be on he way to WW3.

sorry for my pessimissim. sp? Darn iPad.
 

I've always hoped that nations could learn from history and bitter experience, but I seriously doubt that will be the case.

We may well be on he way to WW3.

sorry for my pessimissim. sp? Darn iPad.

Sadly, I think you may be right tnthomas. As much as I recognise that ISIS was the result of previous military actions I can't see another solution. We can't just sit back and let these barbarians take over. I am loathe to send young people to die in battle...............let's pray for another solution.....whatever it is.
 
Most of us have never lived when there wasn't a war or threat of war. I am tired of wars. I guess mankind is incapable of living without war.
 
I just copied this off from FB and sent it to a few "thinking" people I know. None of these comments are mine. What do you guys on the S.F. think??
Anyone else find the Paris attack suspicious? Where are all the videos of people inside the concert hall? And how is that woman holding on to the ledge with one hand? Inside job I say!


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Beverly It just gives the world permission for more War!

Beverly And how convenient a Journalist just happened to be there to capture the footage?

Ronda My son has been saying he thought is was suspicious also. Maybe a setup

Sam I hope & pray that's not the case. If it is a setup, that's just sick & pathetic on many levels.
 
I just copied this off from FB and sent it to a few "thinking" people I know. None of these comments are mine. What do you guys on the S.F. think??
Anyone else find the Paris attack suspicious? Where are all the videos of people inside the concert hall? And how is that woman holding on to the ledge with one hand? Inside job I say!


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Beverly It just gives the world permission for more War!

Beverly And how convenient a Journalist just happened to be there to capture the footage?

Ronda My son has been saying he thought is was suspicious also. Maybe a setup

Sam I hope & pray that's not the case. If it is a setup, that's just sick & pathetic on many levels.


I think those 'people' should travel to Paris and tell that to the Parisians and see where it gets them.

How damn sick can people get????

Were these same 'people' outraged when it was suggested 9/11 was a set up????
 
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French fighter jets bombed a series of ISIS sites in Raqqa, Syria, on Sunday in what officials described as a major bombardment. The airstrikes targeted a command center, recruitment center, ammunition storage base and a training camp.
 
I just copied this off from FB and sent it to a few "thinking" people I know. None of these comments are mine. What do you guys on the S.F. think??
Anyone else find the Paris attack suspicious? Where are all the videos of people inside the concert hall? And how is that woman holding on to the ledge with one hand? Inside job I say!


Comments

Beverly It just gives the world permission for more War!

Beverly And how convenient a Journalist just happened to be there to capture the footage?

Ronda My son has been saying he thought is was suspicious also. Maybe a setup

Sam I hope & pray that's not the case. If it is a setup, that's just sick & pathetic on many levels.

Amazing. The holocaust never happened. We never went to the moon. Roosevelt planned Pearl Harbor, and the Twin Towers were deliberately blown up by the government! :excited:
 
Balls to the wall won't get it done. It will take boots on the ground...

Sadly for those men that will be in those boots I have to agree........air and distant artillery strikes have never in themselves won a war on a well dug in enemy, you've still got to go house to house and bunker to bunker.
 
This will be a NATO effort.. As it should be.. France can evoke the Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty... an attack against one is an attack against all.. and NATO forces will have to respond. This cannot and will not be the sole responsibility of the US
 
I've always hoped that nations could learn from history and bitter experience, but I seriously doubt that will be the case.

We may well be on he way to WW3.

sorry for my pessimissim. sp? Darn iPad.

People are not learning from history because too many are too busy spinning and rewriting it. Some basic facts and points get lost in current events as well with squabbling and battles based on political correctness. Sometimes facts are the facts regardless of causes or motivations. Facts include casualties, fatalities and/or collateral damage. Facts include there are laws in place in the US and Europe for/to control immigration, not deny it but control it.
 
During WWII the Japanese here in America were put in internment camps, to keep the possibility of terror attacks from happening.
Alabama and Michigan have banned Syrian immigrants already.
There is an anti-Muslim backlash in France since last Friday.
If the republicans win next year, it may become illegal to be a Muslim.
There is supposed to be a separation of church and state in the U.S. government. But the GOP wants to make Christianity the official religion of the U.S...and it's probably only evangelical Christianity.
You can be thrown in jail for supporting ISIS or Al Qaeda....But the Bush family financed Hitler., and then gave us two POTUS's.
 
Funny we all talk about war but nobody mentions BODYBAGS.....

Of course not - because we're commenting safe and sound in our little cocoons.

Ask some of the vets here - you're sure to get some different answers about war. It's like I've always said about people commenting on self-defense - if you haven't been there you don't really know what it's like.
 
I haven't been to war phil... however I DO have a son that has and has done two tours in the ME.. 2001 in Afghanistan and 2003 Iraq. incidentally... the very same that was shot at the age of 10. I feel that I am well qualified to comment on either topic as both have touched my life in a very personal way.
 
I think the definition of "war" has gotten twisted around too. The war on this, the war on that. In WWI and WWII there were atrocities but there were also some known rules of engagement. ISIS sounds like the most sadistic of the sadists. Burning people alive, merry mass beheadings, and like some bastard child proud of their misbehavior they film it all. In the world wars there was looting. But many works of art and historical items were eventually recovered after the war. ISIS isn't satisfied with looting, they went into Palmyra and leveled it.

Terrorism is nothing new either. I'm a voracious reader so I learn something new all the time. I just finished a book called "Bomb Squad", talk about a grim occupation...In the back is a timeline from turn of the century to about 2012, an exhaustive list nationally and globally. Of course with all that practice they've come up with way more effective explosives. They also have more ways of communicating that can't be picked up by Homeland Security.


There will be more attacks globally. But sending Americans into the conflict isn't the answer.
 


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