Anyone have any problems with this news story?

Katybug

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BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq has hanged 42 prisoners convicted of terrorism-related charges, including a woman, the Justice Ministry said Thursday, in Baghdad's latest use of capital punishment despite international appeals to have it abolished.


42 down, 42 million to go!
 

I wonder why they say including a woman in the report...her life was more valuable? Like Rkunsaw, no problems here.
 

I always want revenge in the worst form imaginable for those who oppose our country so harshly and seemingly have no regard for human life. I know Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, but I felt cheated in the camera cutting away of his hanging, something I wanted to see in full detail. I am only squeamish about things that crawl, not the most evil of monsters.

I was far more pleased with the details of seeing Munnamer Gudaffi's demise. It took way too long to make that happen. It's not for everyone, but when you have so much blood on your hands, it's pure justice and we don't get to see that nearly often enough. As for Osama, there can never be enough gross & intricate details for me with him being taken out. (Bless those heroic Seals!!) The only consolation is how harsh to always be in hiding w/a relatively poor quality of life compared to what he could have known. It's not nearly enough, but has to be good enough with him dead!
 
Katybug said:
I always want revenge in the worst form imaginable for those who oppose our country so harshly and seemingly have no regard for human life. I know Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, but I felt cheated in the camera cutting away of his hanging, something I wanted to see in full detail. I am only squeamish about things that crawl, not the most evil of monsters.

I was far more pleased with the details of seeing Munnamer Gudaffi's demise. It took way too long to make that happen. It's not for everyone, but when you have so much blood on your hands, it's pure justice and we don't get to see that nearly often enough. As for Osama, there can never be enough gross & intricate details for me with him being taken out. (Bless those heroic Seals!!) The only consolation is how harsh to always be in hiding w/a relatively poor quality of life compared to what he could have known. It's not nearly enough, but has to be good enough with him dead!
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I looked at your original post a few days ago and came back to see if I missed something. Which part of the news story did you have a problem with?

I agree with you about wanting to see a punishment or execution carried out and I also felt cheated when the camera did not show Saddam's head popping off, at least I heard that it popped off. We should have the pleasure of pointing and laughing at heartless people.
 
Katybug said:
BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq has hanged 42 prisoners convicted of terrorism-related charges, including a woman, the Justice Ministry said Thursday, in Baghdad's latest use of capital punishment despite international appeals to have it abolished.

42 down, 42 million to go!
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It's not as bad as it sounds: There are only 32 million Iraqis.
 
MercyL said:
I looked at your original post a few days ago and came back to see if I missed something.

I agree with you about wanting to see a punishment or execution carried out and I also felt cheated when the camera did not show Saddam's head popping off, at least I heard that it popped off. We should have the pleasure of pointing and laughing at heartless people.
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Mercy: Which part of the news story did you have a problem with?

Mercy, I didn't have a problem with any part of the story whatsoever....I was happy as could be to read it. I probably didn't make myself clear, but my last sentence..."42 down and 42 million to go." is the way I feel....in that hanging 42 terrorists is good, but hanging 42 million would make me even happier!

And I didn't know Saddam's head popped off, glad to hear it. Just saw Anthony Bourdain's show on the Kurds in Iraq & Turkey. It's nothing short of amazing at how far they've come in rebuilding their country, their pride, and their way of life after so many of them being slaughtered by Saddam. The show warmed my heart, as they almost idolize Americans and are so grateful for us being there. They are a very resourceful & proud people these days, but God only knows what will happen when we leave.
 
The Universe is governed by Law. We reap what we sow. Suffering can only be requited by suffering.

The cruel and the evil will get their comeuppance, but let us not delight in that or we run the risk of becoming tainted with the same malice of spirit that afflicted them...
 
Knightofalbion said:
You don't see the irony of that statement?
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Not really, but then I am not Christian and understand why Kings placed the heads of their enemies on pikes. Surely someone who had been victimized took great pleasure in seeing their attacker's head hung on a wall or placed on a pike in some tiny village we've never heard of.

He earned the execution, according to his citizenry. I see nothing wrong in appreciating it the way I appreciate it. If he had been an innocent man caught up in a political disaster and chosen as the scapegoat my pointing and laughing would be just as heartless as Saddam's treatment of his people, but that's not the case.

He earned it.
 
I have been silent in this thread so far but I have to support Knightofalbion when he says that

The cruel and the evil will get their comeuppance, but let us not delight in that or we run the risk of becoming tainted with the same malice of spirit that afflicted them...
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IMO we are on shaky moral ground when we rejoice over the death others, even those we consider our enemies.
We become part of the cheering mob at the guillotine or the gibbet.
 
Having high morals and broadcasting them to the world is nice, but let that terrorist act be perpetrated against your OWN family and see how quickly the tune changes. I find it alarming that so many devout Christians express horror at retribution, yet their religion's history is filled to overflowing with gory examples of just such actions.

Warri, there seems to be a heck of a lot of people that rejoice over Hitler's death every day, yet no one censures them - in fact, to express anything
other than complete agreement with them invites a public lynching, especially in the many countries such as Germany where the mere mention of Hitler's political party is a felony crime. How do you explain that phenomenon in terms of having "firm moral ground"?
 
Phil, please don't accuse me of preaching on this issue. I had kept quiet until now.
I am no different to anyone else in that I also feel a sense of satisfaction when some monster is brought down.
I also feel a certain horror when I see people lined up outside a prison waiting to cheer when some criminal is executed.
Underneath our civilised exterior lies a savage core which we need to keep in check.
 
Warrigal said:
Phil, please don't accuse me of preaching on this issue. I had kept quiet until now.
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I wasn't aware that I ever accused you of preaching - I'm sorry you perceived it that way. I'm just responding to the thread in general.

My second paragraph only was addressed to you, and I'm only asking how you would explain the disparity I presented.
 
SifuPhil said:
Having high morals and broadcasting them to the world is nice, but let that terrorist act be perpetrated against your OWN family and see how quickly the tune changes. I find it alarming that so many devout Christians express horror at retribution, yet their religion's history is filled to overflowing with gory examples of just such actions.

Warri, there seems to be a heck of a lot of people that rejoice over Hitler's death every day, yet no one censures them - in fact, to express anything other than complete agreement with them invites a public lynching, especially in the many countries such as Germany where the mere mention of Hitler's political party is a felony crime. How do you explain that phenomenon in terms of having "firm moral ground"?
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I see it exactly as you do, Phil, but just realizing this thread should probably be in the new & more serious forum.

As I watched the poignant story of the Kurds this week, I kept thinking how Saddam and Hitler were exactly the same. There is no difference, in that both were attempting to exterminate an entire sect of people. It sickens me knowing the thousands of innocent lives lost, and the manner in which they were lost, all in the name of power hungry/demented monsters. I have no shame in my pleasure of knowing their days are over and their demise can't have ended brutally enough to suit me.

Capital punishment falls under politics and religion, which are adamant no-no's for discussion. But here we are and I've maintained for years to those opposed to capital punishment -- one question -- if it were your daughter raped and/or sodomized & murdered, how would you feel in delving out punishment? As for me, the sentence couldn't be harsh enough and I cringe for those who were given a pass to carry on as if no crime had been committed. The 2 who come to mind are OJ and Casey Anthony. I think those 2 are largely responsible for our voicing our opinions so loudly when justice is finally served.

As many of you, I remember the serial killings of beautiful and innocent young women at the hands of Ted Bundy. Ted was extremely well educated, but evil as he was brilliant. I can remember the smile on my face when I heard he was executed. If that's wrong, so be it, but I can only imagine if one of those innocent young girls were mine.

And that's what makes the world go round, friends, we all have different opinions and luckily are able to speak them without fear of punishment. What a boring place it would be if we all felt the same.
 
This thread should be just where it is. :rolleyes: I replied that I didn't have a problem with the news report, but I've seen the videos of OUR men being beheaded in the past, and OUR men having their heart cut out and eaten by these savages...I don't find any pleasure in seeing killings like these in either case. I will not be in the cheering mobs or rejoicing over incidents like these. Like That Guy said, we should just stay out of it, and let them have at each other.

I was satisfied to hear that that Castro guy who kept those girls imprisoned in his home for a decade and tortured them, hung himself in jail. Bad part is now I'm hearing that it may have been auto-erotic asphyxiation. In other words, that joker went out with a smile on his face, now that ticks me off!
 
Seabreeze: I was satisfied to hear that that Castro guy who kept those girls imprisoned in his home for a decade and tortured them, hung himself in jail. Bad part is now I'm hearing that it may have been auto-erotic asphyxiation. In other words, that joker went out with a smile on his face, now that ticks me off![/QUOTE]

I can't believe you posted what I was thinking when I read it yesterday, Seabreeze. With any thought to it whatsoever, how many people before hanging themselves let their pants & underwear fall to their ankles for any reason other than the obvious?

Whatever the smile on his face may have been going out, hope you enjoyed it, Bubba! What a huge favor he did for his poor victims in not having to relive it....as well as the expense of the long and drawn out trial for taxpayers to bear. I know all of us wish the best of emotional recoveries for his poor victims. They endured a nightmare beyond belief. Write a book, ladies. It will perhaps ease a small part of your pain in getting it out, knowing all of us are in your cheering section.
 
I wouldn't have known about those things before David Carradine dying that way. I wish the best also for those girls, they seem strong and able to move forward.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I wouldn't have known about those things before David Carradine dying that way. I wish the best also for those girls, they seem strong and able to move forward.
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I've been divorced for many years and considered myself up with the times....I guess only somewhat. I'd never heard of this this "experience" 'til the Carradine thing either, Seabreeze. It's obviously a "guy" thing.
 

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