Neo-Nazi group in Sweden swarms train station and beat child refugees

AprilT said:
I haven't been able to find the exact stats indicating the rise of rapes correlating to the refugee migration. Can someone help?
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I'm just learning about this issue from the bits I hear in the main stream media, which hasn't been much, as I understand there's been some suppression of these events. I don't know if you'll find any exact stats because of this, not at this time anyway. I'm taking in information from other sources also, as I have over the years on other topics. Keeping an open mind, and just listening to both sides now, taking the main stream and alternative with a grain of salt.


 

Karen99 said:
Phil, this reminds me of Guardian Angels..the street patrol.
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So now we have open season on people? Forget the Police and the right of being considered innocent until proven guilty? Wondering how you would make the determination WHO was a gang member and who wasn't... or maybe just gun down anyone fitting the "profile"?
 
Seabreeze...that video was really spot-on. I totally agree with all the points made..and this video was super.
 

SeaBreeze said:
I'm just learning about this issue from the bits I hear in the main stream media, which hasn't been much, as I understand there's been some suppression of these events. I don't know if you'll find any exact stats because of this, not at this time anyway. I'm taking in information from other sources also, as I have over the years on other topics. Keeping an open mind, and just listening to both sides now, taking the main stream and alternative with a grain of salt.

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I'm mainly referencing the comments and quoted the statements made about there being stats showing this rise due to the refugees, I still don't see anything to support those comments is all I'm saying.

Anyone can feel free to criticise factions of any religion who commit crimes, my gripe is why be hypocritical about it though and suddenly be up in arms as if, these people are the only people committing such crimes. We all around the world have been fighting against treating each other as second class citizens forever, there's nothing new there, women and others in this country are still fighting and will continue to do so. I can understand not wanting people bringing in even more of their own craziness, that I do see wanting to fight against, but, is that really something that the refugees are doing or those people who came over legally and or as plants, not the majority, just some of the same people who have been making their way around the world trying to advance their causes whatever their religious or racist, surpressive views may be.

Is there a problem with Jihad, Isis putting plants and causing problems around the world, and possibly even being the cause in these rape instances, I don't doubt it. But when we allow either side to sensationalize and misrepresent what's going own to progress an agenda for the negative, no one is going to win and some people on both sides want a war amongst the people. It's taking the bait and level heads need to prevail.
 
Karen99 said:
Phil, this reminds me of Guardian Angels..the street patrol.
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Except - I don't recall exactly, but - I don't think they used brute force. They trained in martial arts, yes, but they were still trying to work through "The System" - calling police when they saw something on patrol.
 
QuickSilver said:
So now we have open season on people? Forget the Police and the right of being considered innocent until proven guilty? Wondering how you would make the determination WHO was a gang member and who wasn't... or maybe just gun down anyone fitting the "profile"?
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I mentioned the Guardian Angels...here is their website. QS..your above remarks addressed to me do not represent anything I think...so why are they addressed to me?

http://www.guardianangels.org
 
QuickSilver said:
I found the video hateful, but it's from The Rebel Media so that's to be expected?
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The guy speaking is a complete hate monger, wouldn't give his thoughts the time of day, he's hilarious. He writes for Prison Planet where every article could come directly from the farthest of the farthest right winged media station in the US.
 
Sweden now has the second highest number of rapes in the world, after South Africa, which at 53.2 per 100,000 is six times higher than the United States. Statistics now suggest that 1 out of every 4 Swedish women will be raped.


In 2003, Sweden's rape statistics were higher than average at 9.24, but in 2005 they shot up to 36.8 and by 2008 were up to 53.2. Now they are almost certainly even higher as Muslim immigrants continue forming a larger percentage of the population.


With Muslims represented in as many as 77 percent of the rape cases and a major increase in rape cases paralleling a major increase in Muslim immigration, the wages of Muslim immigration are proving to be a sexual assault epidemic by a misogynistic ideology.


The statistics are skewed by urban centers where the Islamic colonists cluster. In Stockholm this summer there was an average of 5 rapes a day. Stockholm has gone from a Swedish city to a city that is one-third immigrant and is between a fifth and a quarter Muslim.
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Rape Epidemic
Something else that Muslim immigration appears to have brought to Norway is what some here call "a rape epidemic."


Recent police statistics showed that in the capital city of Oslo, 100 percent of assault rapes between strangers were committed by immigrant, non-Western males. And nine out of 10 of their victims were native Norwegian women.


To protect themselves, some blonde Norwegian women have reportedly begun dying their hair black, and many travel only in groups.
Kristin Spitznogle is a therapist who has counseled some of the rape victims.


"These men they do not attack their own," she noted. "They attack Norwegian women and a liberal culture they will not accept."
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  • Although the rape took place in June, police kept silent about it for nearly three months, until local media published a story about the crime. According to an editorial comment in the newspaper Westfalen-Blatt, police are refusing to go public about crimes involving refugees and migrants because they do not want to give legitimacy to critics of mass migration.
  • A 13-year-old Muslim girl was raped by another asylum seeker at a refugee facility in Detmold, a city in west-central Germany. The girl and her mother reportedly fled their homeland to escape a culture of sexual violence.
  • Approximately 80% of the refugees/migrants at the shelter in Munich are male... the price for sex with female asylum seekers is ten euros. — Bavarian Broadcasting (Bayerischer Rundfunk).
  • Police in the Bavarian town of Mering, where a 16-year-old-girl was raped on September 11, have issued a warning to parents not to allow their children to go outside unaccompanied. In the Bavarian town of Pocking, administrators of the Wilhelm-Diess-Gymnasium have warned parents not to let their daughter's wear revealing clothing in order to avoid "misunderstandings."
  • "When Muslim teenage boys go to open air swimming pools, they are overwhelmed when they see girls in bikinis. These boys, who come from a culture where for women it is frowned upon to show naked skin, will follow girls and bother them without their realizing it. Naturally, this generates fear." — Bavarian politician, quoted in Die Welt.
  • A police raid on the Munich refugee facility found that guards hired to provide security at the site were trafficking drugs and weapons and were turning a blind eye to the prostitution.
  • Meanwhile, the raping of German women by asylum seekers is becoming commonplace.
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The participation of Muslim migrants in the rape jihad is, of course, the fact most desperately suppressed by German officials. Mrs. Merkel earned her “Person of the Year” honors from left-leaning relic Time magazine by rolling out the red carpet for a staggering 1.1 million migrants in 2015 — infuriating the German public and spurring the migrant tsunami now washing over neighboring countries. In this information clampdown, the nightmare of the victimized women turns out to be the chancellor’s good fortune: Police on the scene were so outnumbered and outmaneuvered by the assailants that it was physically impossible for them to get near most of the women being savaged, much less make arrests. Most of the perps will never be identified.
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There are hundreds if not thousands of such articles and stats available. You need only know how to search for them.

And, if that's not enough, take a tour on the Dark Web - you'll find a few thousand more, a lot rougher in their language but pointing out the same thing.
 
SifuPhil said:
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There are hundreds if not thousands of such articles and stats available. You need only know how to search for them.

And, if that's not enough, take a tour on the Dark Web - you'll find a few thousand more, a lot rougher in their language but pointing out the same thing.
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Yes, I know how to find propaganda, that's easy, I looked to the Bra site for the stats, they still don't totally correlate as written.

I read the sites compared the info to the what the Bra site, (which at least one of those sites claimed to have gotten their info from), stated for actual causes and nowhere was anything similar in cause and effect. A lot of what they said the rise for reports is their numbers is partly due to their new classification system the quotes are bits and pieces from sites mostly having an agenda. I'm not saying there isn't any increase, but some of what's been reported in some of the articles listed are just twisted information people chose to write nothing more it works for those who wish it to work for whatever reasoning, not for everyone. BTW, Gatestone, is a conservative think tank site.
 
SifuPhil said:
Wasn't lumping the entire group together - only the teen-aged males.

No proof? Check the stats.

One country? Germany, Sweden, Syria, Amsterdam, New York ...

Those "children" were mainly gang members - old enough to know right from wrong.

A "bit over the top" is allowing these atrocities to women to continue with nobody taking any political action at all.
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I'm all for taking action to reduce attacks on women but I favour police action over political action.
I also favour education campaigns to inform new migrants of the expectations and social mores of the host country.
Especially for men and mothers of children.

Stats are a problem. Every assault by a foreign male on a local female is likely to be reported.
Assaults by local men on foreign females less likely because of the shame factor.

Assaults by a family member in both groups are likely to go unreported. Shame factor again.

Whatever the stats, measures need to be taken to make sure everyone knows that action will be taken if a woman reports sexual assault.
 
No stats in this article and few details, but the details are disturbing.

Tension against refugees is mounting in Europe, and violent, xenophobic episodes targeting asylum seekers are becoming more common. The latest, in Stockholm, Sweden, is particularly brutal: Around 9pm on Jan. 29, a mob of dozens of masked men marched through the city’s central station, distributing leaflets promising to give “the North African street children who are roaming around the punishment they deserve.”
Footage shows the men running through the station, and according to witnesses, at least three refugees were beaten up. The action, carried out by what seems to be groups of hooligans, found the approval of Sweden’s neo-Nazi party, which declared the areas around the station to be “cleaned up” of “criminal immigrants from North Africa.” The following morning, on Jan. 30, the country’s Democratic party, which holds anti-immigration positions, demanded that the government resign for its immigration politics.

According to Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet (link in Swedish), a witness reported seeing several masked men attacking foreign-looking people also at Sergel Square, in the vicinity of the station. The police said they found about 70 masked people upon their arrival in the station.

This violent action is the worst so far to have followed the death of Alexandra Mezher, a 22-year-old aid worker who was stabbed to death by a teenage refugee in a shelter for minors on Jan. 25.

On Jan. 31, a shocking video emerged proving that the situation in Sweden’s asylum homes is on edge: in the video, an aid worker is heard screaming at some of the children in the video, shouting at them “you are ****ing pig everyone, ****ing pigs.” He then verbally attacks one of the refugees who then gets to the floor crying.

There are currently an estimated 38,000 unaccompanied migrant youth in Sweden, and the number of houses for minors provided by Sweden’s health and social care inspectorate is over 1,100—10 times bigger than it was in 2010.

http://qz.com/606736/a-masked-mob-beat-refugee-children-in-stockholm/
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AprilT said:
Yes, I know how to find propaganda, that's easy, I looked to the Bra site for the stats, they still don't totally correlate as written.

I read the sites compared the info to the what the Bra site, (which at least one of those sites claimed to have gotten their info from), stated for actual causes and nowhere was anything similar in cause and effect. A lot of what they said the rise for reports is their numbers is partly due to their new classification system the quotes are bits and pieces from sites mostly having an agenda. I'm not saying there isn't any increase, but some of what's been reported in some of the articles listed are just twisted information people chose to write nothing more it works for those who wish it to work for whatever reasoning, not for everyone. BTW, Gatestone, is a conservative think tank site.
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I guess it's true - there are none so blind as those who will not see.

I could spend all day throwing stats and sites at you, and you could do the same to me.

I'm done playing the game. I tried, but it's a game that, like gun control and abortion, will never be won.
 
SifuPhil said:
I guess it's true - there are none so blind as those who will not see.

I could spend all day throwing stats and sites at you, and you could do the same to me.

I'm done playing the game. I tried, but it's a game that, like gun control and abortion, will never be won.
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I don't see it as a game, but, I'm fine not continuing the discussion with you as it does seem pointless.
 
SifuPhil said:
Except - I don't recall exactly, but - I don't think they used brute force. They trained in martial arts, yes, but they were still trying to work through "The System" - calling police when they saw something on patrol.
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Looks like they're still in action Phil, and patrolling NY subways due to recent stabbing crimes. Just like in Chicago, the cops aren't effective in taking care of street crime, so many people are glad to see law abiding groups like the Guardian Angels on the streets taking care of business. If we could clone them and send them to Chicago, the street gangs would slowly disappear, and I bet the residents would be thankful...I know I would if I lived in a place like that with all the violent gangs!

 
To compare the Guardian Angels to the Neo-Nazis is funny, BTW, I was a GA for about a minute, back then they were quite sexist and I stopped going because of some of the guys were a little too friendly at times. I remember one night some tourist taking a picture of a few of us as we were getting off patrolling the Bronxville station in Westchester County. I was terrible at it anyway, I remember someone on the subway laughing at me for taking part, saying are you sure you should be part of this group. I knew I was in over my head from the get to, I thought I was just joining a neighborhood watch group, but, once I got there, I felt I had to see it through.



And for the record, at least back then, many of them didn't have any martial arts training. Also, we women weren't allowed inside the parts of the headquarters. That was another thing that ticked me off, aside from the fact I had no business being involved in the first place.

PS....having said that, I still had respect for what they did when it came to protecting the areas they patrolled, they did some good often.
 
April, I thought Curtis was a martial arts nut and insisted on everyone training. I must have heard wrong.

Sorry for your troubles - that never hit the news either.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Looks like they're still in action Phil, and patrolling NY subways due to recent stabbing crimes. Just like in Chicago, the cops aren't effective in taking care of street crime, so many people are glad to see law abiding groups like the Guardian Angels on the streets taking care of business. If we could clone them and send them to Chicago, the street gangs would slowly disappear, and I bet the residents would be thankful...I know I would if I lived in a place like that with all the violent gangs!
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The Commissioner is a jerk.

I'm glad the Angels are still out there.
 
SifuPhil said:
April, I thought Curtis was a martial arts nut and insisted on everyone training. I must have heard wrong.

Sorry for your troubles - that never hit the news either.
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Thanks, there were some stories about it in later years, but they blamed some of it on Lisa, his wife, saying she didn't want other women around hubby, so they kept the women out of the office area and other such nonsense. It was a long time ago, I don't remember all the details as those stories came out long after I departed from the group. As far as the martial arts, it is possible the guys went on to learn some methods as they stay on in the group, but, I know those I was with, didn't have much of a clue and we really had strict orders not to get into physical confrontations, just to be on the lookout and alert authorities if criminal activity was in progress, but of course, there was no you wouldn't just sit and watch someone getting beat down without trying to stop it.
 
I think I was out of the city by the time a lot of the bad stuff went down.

For example, I never knew he was shot in Chicago in 1990.

 

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