A Senior Discovers the Red Pill

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SifuPhil

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Here I like to think of myself as a savvy senior - 58 years old - and wise in the ways of Internet culture.

Not so with The Red Pill.

I don't know how this one got past me, although I knew of it's distant cousin from a few years ago.


Kissing Cousins


The PUA (Pick-Up Artist) community entered my radar many years ago. At the time I generalized it as a distasteful hobby of little boys. I KNEW the REAL way to attract women: through my wolf-like eyes, my martial arts-honed body and my near-genius-level brain.

Simple. No fuss, no muss. No formulas, no secret techniques. Just totally natural.

Riiiight.

But I figure, live and let live. Certainly the PUA community was forking over big bucks to a few top dogs for seminars, meet-ups, books, videos and who knows what else. Today it's a big-business subculture.




Enter The Red Pill


From a quick research effort it seems that the Red Pill community (so named after Neo's choice in The Matrix) is yet another sub-culture of men - usually in their mid-20's - who have banded together to fight for such issues as men's rights, health and wealth practices and yes, shards from the PUA community (although from what I've seen so far they differ in "tactics"). Overall it seems to be an honest, sincere community, interested in improving themselves physically, mentally and socially - nothing wrong with that.

They also happen to have a particular hatred of SJWs. At first I thought this was "Single Jewish Women", and wondered why yentas with blue hair should come under such vitriolic attacks.

Turns out that "SJW" means "Social Justice Warrior" and includes a witch's brew of feminists, Liberals, wimpy men and most of the large publishing houses (!). The Red Pill guys are fighting to break free from the SJWs and regain a certain perceived "manliness".

Three of the top blogs that I've discovered are Mike Cernovich's Danger and Play, Victor Pride's Bold and Determined, and Chris' Good Looking Loser. They have a wide range of articles slanted toward their target audience on building wealth on the Internet, getting into shape through bodybuilding exercises and finding (and enjoying) women - all the things a 20-something needs to know.

The writing on these blogs is alright (I'm picky, but then I'm a writer), with several spelling and grammatical errors popping up here and there, but for the most part they are all well-written. It appears that even their philosophy of web design is a nice change from the usual blogs - you aren't assaulted by tons of pop-ups and advertising, just a few links to their books on Amazon.

One point that puzzles me: these guys are all clamoring about improving themselves, getting off of drugs and alcohol, blah, blah, blah - then they start talking about using Kratom.


Kratom


Kratom is a naturally-occurring plant from Malaysia and surrounding areas, the leaf of which is consumed to either energize or relax the user, depending upon the specific strain used. It is available from several online sources, but is slated to be banned in the UK soon. The U.S. obviously hasn't heard about this substance or they'd be banning it as well, as it seems to be a cross of caffeine, cocaine and marijuana in its effects.


So How Do I Feel About The Red Pill?


I'm not entirely sure yet.

On the one hand, I like seeing an entire sub-culture devoted to physical, mental and spiritual improvement. It's refreshing and, as a senior, reassuring to see this generation going to great lengths and having such enthusiasm for self-improvement. In fact, I totally agree with their philosophy of "don't blame life" - they just go about improving themselves.

I'm not so sure about their views on dating and picking up women. Maybe it's because I'm old-school, but some of the techniques and tactics appear to me to be an insult to the women. Maybe Millenial women don't mind this approach - maybe they even expect and enjoy it - but that's why I prefer the more mature ladies.

I understand them, and they me.

So, overall? I think this "movement" is going in the right direction but they need to get rid of or radically change some of their beliefs and practices. Otherwise they're going to be focusing on a hatred that will delay or destroy their self-improvement.

(from my blog SifuPhil's World)
 

Debby said:
I'm curious about what kind of methods they suggest for picking up women that you find offensive or at least questionable Phil? Can you give any specifics?
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It's the general attitude they have toward women that I object to, Deb. They look at them like cattle, like numbers to be racked up on the scoreboard. Having been through the one-night-stand stuff myself, I know how shallow and meaningless it is, and I despair seeing a new generation being psuhed to accept that as the norm.

Now the PUA community (not saying all Red Pill guys) is particularly offensive. As if a canned line of chatter can sweep them off their feet. They advocate playing games - not calling back for several days, in order to induce "longing" in the gal! - and totally blowing off any type of originality in their approaches.

Again, maybe I'm old-school but treating women as objects the way they do is offensive to me.
 
SifuPhil said:
It's the general attitude they have toward women that I object to, Deb. They look at them like cattle, like numbers to be racked up on the scoreboard. Having been through the one-night-stand stuff myself, I know how shallow and meaningless it is, and I despair seeing a new generation being psuhed to accept that as the norm.

Now the PUA community (not saying all Red Pill guys) is particularly offensive. As if a canned line of chatter can sweep them off their feet. They advocate playing games - not calling back for several days, in order to induce "longing" in the gal! - and totally blowing off any type of originality in their approaches.

Again, maybe I'm old-school but treating women as objects the way they do is offensive to me.
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It really is repulsive, but they won't have any problems because some women are attracted to misogynistic men. I think this is really evident in an example by how many women are voting for particular candidates, but I don't want to detour into politics. It's a sad fact. On the other hand however nice guys get the shaft as well by women who are always looking for the BBD. So you have your lower element making plans in both the sexes. Lets's hope they hook up together View attachment 27624
 
Their entire philosophy towards women is disgusting -- one of their beliefs is that women should all stay home, service the male at a moment's notice, and have babies while the far superior male goes out into the world to work. Wonder how many of these Neanderthals actually make enough money by themselves to support a family in the first place . . .
 
BlunderWoman said:
It really is repulsive, but they won't have any problems because some women are attracted to misogynistic men. I think this is really evident in an example by how many women are voting for particular candidates, but I don't want to detour into politics. It's a sad fact. On the other hand however nice guys get the shaft as well by women who are always looking for the BBD. So you have your lower element making plans in both the sexes. Lets's hope they hook up together View attachment 27624
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That's very, very true. Different strokes and all that.
 
Butterfly said:
Their entire philosophy towards women is disgusting -- one of their beliefs is that women should all stay home, service the male at a moment's notice, and have babies while the far superior male goes out into the world to work. Wonder how many of these Neanderthals actually make enough money by themselves to support a family in the first place . . .
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I'm not sure I caught that in my reading. Is that the PUA community or the Red Pill?
 
Please break down the topic into muppet terms, I'm lost here. I'm taking it to be a group of guys like that guy who wrote " I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell"...Tucker Max...so over the top misogynistic that it's almost satire.
 
fureverywhere said:
Please break down the topic into muppet terms, I'm lost here. I'm taking it to be a group of guys like that guy who wrote " I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell"...Tucker Max...so over the top misogynistic that it's almost satire.
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Oh, you mean that little book that made the NYT Best Seller list for 6 years in a row, and was later made into a movie? That one?
 
That one, he wrote a bunch of others in the same mold. I dunno...then again I think " Family Guy" is obnoxious too...I dunno I 'd rather go back to a time when there still were some taboo's.
 
I've known some guys who make no secret that they are superior to women...it's sometimes that they really, really prefer men and can't admit it to themselves, or they're ashamed of their ah hem...shortcomings, or they're just clueless about women in general, it's easy to hate what you can't understand.
 
fureverywhere said:
That one, he wrote a bunch of others in the same mold. I dunno...then again I think " Family Guy" is obnoxious too...I dunno I 'd rather go back to a time when there still were some taboo's.
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What I don't understand is, if the publishing houses (and especially the NYT) are truly ruled by SJWs who would never consent to publishing a piece that disparages women, how did this guy get published AND put on the Best Seller lists for so long?
 
SifuPhil said:
It's the general attitude they have toward women that I object to, Deb. They look at them like cattle, like numbers to be racked up on the scoreboard. Having been through the one-night-stand stuff myself, I know how shallow and meaningless it is, and I despair seeing a new generation being psuhed to accept that as the norm.

Now the PUA community (not saying all Red Pill guys) is particularly offensive. As if a canned line of chatter can sweep them off their feet. They advocate playing games - not calling back for several days, in order to induce "longing" in the gal! - and totally blowing off any type of originality in their approaches.
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...sounds like Jerry, George and Kramer on Seinfeld.



So, I have heard of Kratom in looking for a natural pain remedy, have you tried it?
 
I think it's not taking things so seriously. I mean hate speech is serious, but frat boy rambling is not hate speech, just best selling stupidity.
 


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