Common sense gun control

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Robusta

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I know this is starting a firestorm.
Please tell me specifically what this phrase means to you.
Not trying to be a troll,just trying to understand different perspectives.
 

Gun control to me means, making sure that only the most mentally stable and age appropriate people are allowed to have guns and that they have had to learn the safety rules before they get to have one. It also means that officials know exactly who they are allowing to have guns and that they keep all records until such time as that owner registers the sale of the weapon. Just like we do with cars.
 
To me common sense gun control would be if every gun bought or sold in the country had to be accounted for. Ex-offenders couldn't own one, if someone has been in a psychiatric facility there should be restrictions. There should also be mandatory sentencing for crimes with a gun. You can go away longer for drug possession than shooting someone. Doesn't make sense to me.
Then there is the actual state of gun control in the US...
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Falcon said:
Warrie, What's with that anchor around your neck? Helluva place to wear one. OMG, What have you done??!
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I heard the Navy's 5th Fleet hit shore last night Falcon and she won the anchor in either a wet t-shirt or chug-a-lug contest........oh hell I don't know, maybe it was both.
 
IKE said:
Oh goodie, is it already time for yet another gun control thread ? :beatdeadhorse:
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That well may be, but as guns are strictly "verboten" here (Australia), knives have come to the forefront!
Murders, robberies, assaults, are committed with the help of knives. (statistics available).
Would you like to be cut into little pieces while asleep in bed?
No, of course not, you would get out your little pistol from under your pillow and defend yourself.(if guns were permitted).
But then again, you could get into big trouble
if you injure the intruder, couldn't you, and be sued for "malicious damage"!?
 
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To me commonsense gun control means selling guns and ammo only to people who have common sense and use it. It also means realizing what common sense tells us -- that such a method of control is not practicable.
 
Susie said:
That well may be, but as guns are strictly "forboten" here (Australia), knives have come to the forefront!
Murders, robberies, assaults, are committed with the help of knives. (statistics available).
Would you like to be cut into little pieces while asleep in bed?
No, of course not, you would get out your little pistol from under your pillow and defend yourself.
But then again, you could get into big trouble
if you injure the intruder, couldn't you, and be sued for "malicious damage"!?
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You do understand Susie, that if someone is going to cut you to pieces in your bed, that someone is probably related to you?
Are you prepared to shoot a family member, even if they are barking mad on drugs?

I know that you do know that gun ownership is not forbidden in Australia but you do have to have a valid reason for owning one. All you have to do is join a gun club if you really want one. If you need one for your job, you can have one.

I found an article on knife related violence. It is very detailed and you are correct that attacks using knives is trending up at the same time as attacks using firearms are trending down. Most knife attacks are carried our by young people according to this paper: http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/tbp/tbp045/tbp045.pdf

I found this table interesting

knife offences NSW.JPG

The trends over 2 and 5 years are either stable or trending down. It is worth considering that in every category other than murder, the outcome would have probably been worse if the offender was armed with a gun rather than a knife, sword, scissors or screwdriver.
 
Once again I will post for the Swiss ways of guns. Start when rather young, teach about usage and dangers, make gun matches part of the entertainment (as we do with ball games), make it all part of the national defense effort and then continue after the person becomes out of service age. There is really no problem with owning a gun in the Switzerland area and they do take them around publicly and carry them into restaurants, on buses, to contests, and have them in their homes.

Knowing what they are and how to use and handle them would be a big help in ending gun usage for most folks. The problem left is the criminal groups, robbers, drug nuts, mental ones. That is something that even the Swiss seem to know how to handle. We should look to the Swiss for a better education that what we are getting right now.
 

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