Is Orlando's debacle a taboo subject?

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I'm relatively new here, so I don't know all the rules, implied and imposed, so I'm not sure if some subjects are not acceptable?.
when I signed on and went to hot topics, and general discussions I saw no mention of the terrorist bloodbath today.
is it just a coincidence, or are there taboo subjects?

thanks
suze
 

I recommend staying far, far away from any thread like that one.

They're not fun, you don't really learn anything (except how argumentative people can be, turning from the original attack to attacking each other with words in posts).

There are lot of fun threads here that are much more .... FUN!

I wish Matrix and SeaBreeze would delete all the "news" threads. We can find all we need (and more than we want) on TV and online news sites. Unless someone here is personally involved with any of these news stories I wish we'd all stick to discussing things we actually know something about.
 

Perhaps you should take your own advice, Guitarist.
Either that, or adopt a mental detachment when entering the fray.

Personally, I value such threads because I believe that we need to spend some time debriefing after certain events as we try to understand what has happened. If we don't, I think it likely that we will all become so fearful that we won't want to venture outside our homes.
 
Shouldn't we be asking: Why has this terrible massacre happened?
Has it to do with gun laws?
Has it something to do with cultural perception?
Can anyone explain: WHY?
 
Um...always say "Respectfully" before suggesting someone is an idiot.
Don't criticize anyone directly but state your own take clearly and concisely.
Understand everyone has a right to their own opinion even if it comes with foil hats.
Or avoid religion and politics all together...easy yes?
 
Well I think it happened because we have just another crazy person with a gun.

Guns laws did not stop this crazy person, laws never do stop crazy people. (they are crazy they have a hard time concentrating)

Crazy people have been known to use knives and baseball bats and even drive their cars into people. You see that is why they are crazy, I have knives and even a baseball bat and I do drive a truck however, I have never hurt anyone with any of them. (I am clearly not crazy)

So as far as I am concerned crazy people murder, guns are almost never to blame.

The world is full of crazy people, best protect yourself.
 
He was a man with a plan, an ISIS sympathizer and had an assault rifle, in his right mind, I won't insult the mentally ill by comparing him to them.
 
Thanks to you guys for responding to my question. I truly didn't know if there was limit on what could be talked about after only one week here. I really do like the emphasis on positivity I've seen here. It is true that we are slammed with the news from every type of medium. I have not watched the news today, and won't tonite, which might seem like a "who cares" type comment, but I come from a family of news junkies. My dad watched early morning, noon 4pm to 6 pm and of course 10pm.While I have never been that crazy I do watch at least one local and one national news show most days. I guess I'm naive, but when the 24 hour talking heads came to my attention during "W's" first election, I thought it would end after the election. I never imagined this would be a permanent thing. On 9/11 I couldn't get enough coverage because I think I was so blown away by the audacity of the terrorists like so much of the nation, but that has morphed into trying to avoid saturating myself with tragedy and grief. I especially don't want to see pictures of the perpetrators. I won't be a part of giving them the notoriety (even after death) that some of them seek. When I realized how little we knew about the victims, and how the only names heard over and over were the killers, it was time to disengage. I don't want to become desensitized to the frequency of these tragedies. And I believe it could happen. All I can do is pray, so that's what I do.

suze
 
The people of Orlando are reeling from two high profile shootings In 48 hours. The first resulted in just one death and that was tragic enough. The second has been much worse. The police working at the scene have had to tune out to the constant ringing of mobile phones of the dead. Their relatives have been desperately trying to contact them.

How long ago was Sandy Hook? It was in 2002 and there have been at least 1000 mass shootings since then in the United States.

http://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook

Port Arthur, Tasmania was 20 years ago. It was Australia's worst and last mass shooting. God bless John Howard.
 
STOP BLAMING MUSLIMS!!!! A HUGE problem in America is due to the miserable, ignorant, bigoted, ugly hateful attitudes...especially amongst the Christian RIGHT....Prime example: the Lt Governor of Texas.... America has GOOD PEOPLE...yes...but there is still the UGLY AMERICAN who honestly believes for some unfathomable reason that we are still "God's Country"... what a sick joke. What is dangerous about religion is that much of it perpetuatessick twisted version of what they call "GOD"...believing every word they were taught...which was steeped in Fear and Guilt Conditioning.... The self-righteous judgment that comes from 'religious people' is sickening... Our government WANTS to keep us divided... we are much easier to control that way.... What happened today in Orlando is not 'isolated' ... it is a visible, manifested result of hateful, prejudiced, bigoted thinking.
The murder of the 50 people was horrendous... our military kills 'nicely' in the name of God and Country...all we have to do is push a button and cause death... or don't 'those people' count????
 
No it's "Americans" and every John Wayne wannabe. How about Chuck Norris and frickin' bare feet. He could take them all down like that. Same thing with every man, woman and child armed yo...
 
Bettyann said:
STOP BLAMING MUSLIMS!!!! A HUGE problem in America is due to the miserable, ignorant, bigoted, ugly hateful attitudes...especially amongst the Christian RIGHT....Prime example: the Lt Governor of Texas.... America has GOOD PEOPLE...yes...but there is still the UGLY AMERICAN who honestly believes for some unfathomable reason that we are still "God's Country"... what a sick joke. What is dangerous about religion is that much of it perpetuatessick twisted version of what they call "GOD"...believing every word they were taught...which was steeped in Fear and Guilt Conditioning.... The self-righteous judgment that comes from 'religious people' is sickening... Our government WANTS to keep us divided... we are much easier to control that way.... What happened today in Orlando is not 'isolated' ... it is a visible, manifested result of hateful, prejudiced, bigoted thinking.
The murder of the 50 people was horrendous... our military kills 'nicely' in the name of God and Country...all we have to do is push a button and cause death... or don't 'those people' count????
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Who is blaming Muslims? The shooter yesterday called 911 and said he was doing it for ISIS!
 
Warrigal said:
The people of Orlando are reeling from two high profile shootings In 48 hours. The first resulted in just one death and that was tragic enough. The second has been much worse. The police working at the scene have had to tune out to the constant ringing of mobile phones of the dead. Their relatives have been desperately trying to contact them.

How long ago was Sandy Hook? It was in 2002 and there have been at least 1000 mass shootings since then in the United States.

http://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook

Port Arthur, Tasmania was 20 years ago. It was Australia's worst and last mass shooting. God bless John Howard.
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So, what is your point?
 
Shalimar said:
There will be a backlash against American Muslims, even though the head of the Muslim American Council has spoken very strongly against ISIL and this massacre.
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Yes, that is what some very ignorant people do(speaking of a backlash). I really hope it doesn't happen, though.
 
ISIS would claim this as their own whether they had anything to do with it or not. They rely on fear and propaganda to promote their reputation. Reacting in an anti Muslim way furthers their cause.
 
mitchezz said:
ISIS would claim this as their own whether they had anything to do with it or not. They rely on fear and propaganda to promote their reputation. Reacting in an anti Muslim way furthers their cause.
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The man was under investigation by the FBI and interviewed 3 times as to possibly being involved in terrorism.
 
Ruthanne said:
So, what is your point?
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That moderate measures can limit the carnage, even though nothing will eliminate it entirely.

What worked for us was the banning of certain weapons entirely, and an amnesty period to allow people to surrender these and other firearms without penalty and some compensation for the guns handed in. Also, the licensing and registration of all firearms, with a waiting period before being able to buy one to allow for background checks.

There were protests, of course, but the then conservative PM, John Howard, had the courage to push through and the states co-operated to bring in uniform legislation so that tight controls in one state could not be undermined by lax ones in others.

35 people shot to death, hunted like animals, in one day was a turning point in the national psyche of Australia. That happened 20 years ago and nothing like it has happened since.

The US must find its own solution to the problem of gun violence but inaction will not bring about an end to it. Courageous leadership is one requisite and a population willing to take action is also necessary. Sadly, both seem to be lacking at this moment in history.
 
Warrigal said:
That moderate measures can limit the carnage, even though nothing will eliminate it entirely.

What worked for us was the banning of certain weapons entirely, and an amnesty period to allow people to surrender these and other firearms without penalty and some compensation for the guns handed in. Also, the licensing and registration of all firearms, with a waiting period before being able to buy one to allow for background checks.

There were protests, of course, but the then conservative PM, John Howard, had the courage to push through and the states co-operated to bring in uniform legislation so that tight controls in one state could not be undermined by lax ones in others.

35 people shot to death, hunted like animals, in one day was a turning point in the national psyche of Australia. That happened 20 years ago and nothing like it has happened since.

The US must find its own solution to the problem of gun violence but inaction will not bring about an end to it. Courageous leadership is one requisite and a population willing to take action is also necessary. Sadly, both seem to be lacking at this moment in history.
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Our leadership has been trying to bring about changes like the ones you are talking about but the problem is that our congress is heavily backed by the NRA (National Rifle Association) and they are constantly pointing to our 2nd amendment right to bear arms. The minute we try to change things they start screaming we are taking away their rights. If we can get a congress that has more democrats elected this year we may get a chance to change things concerning gun control. Our leadership is strong but cannot just demand people do what he says automatically, it has to go through the heavily Republican Congress that are hell bent on keeping their second amendment rights. In reality no one is trying to take away their 2nd amendment rights; only trying to make it harder for guns to get into the hands of the wrong people. Yet many say that this is not the answer too as we have the black market that sells guns to those who would use it for underhanded reasons.
 
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