What do you think of women being called names?

So sorry to see you go Wilberforce but I perfectly understand the reasons......good luck to you and I hope you find another forum that you are more comfortable with.
 

I don't think about it at all.

This is an interesting response. I get that you are a male but you have been married to females and I believe had stated you have at least one daughter.

I really dislike some of the white male bashing I have heard. Statements like this though make me think some men are really out of touch. Never experience adversity on any level?
 

Did I start this when I posted the following?

"Everywhere I've ever worked (fairly formal environments) it has always been first names within ourselves, Mr. or Ms. X when clients are present, or when to referring to each other in front of a client (as in Mr, X can't see you until Friday). To insist on being called Ms. X among just the employees would have been seen as very uppity."

I most definitely did not mean to "slam" anyone, least of all you, Jeannine. I merely meant to report my observations of how names in the workplace are treated where I live and worked, nothing more. I didn't think I was calling anyone uppity, but stating that it would have been interpreted as uppity in the places I worked. I meant no offense to Jeannine or anyone else.

How can we have a discussion if we cannot state our experiences or observations? In any event, I am sorry for any offense I caused.
 
A female friend told me that when she gets called a "bitch" she thanks the person and says that word stands for: Beautiful, Intelligent, Talented, Charming and Honest... gave me a laugh, and knowing how many filters she has lost over the year, she must say that a whole bunch....:positive:
 
My son once posted a meme on Facebook. It said Now this is a Bitch and showed a picture of a female dog. The next picture was of a woman and it may have said something like this is a Queen. I think women have become to complacent in allowing themselves to be referred to in that way. Some are even proud of it. We have to respect ourselves so that we will be respected.
 
However, being Australian I can cope if there is some context.
Call me a bitch and I will delete you from my circle of friends, but call me a mad bitch with a smile on your face and I will probably laugh too.
Well put Warrigal a mad bitch can be taken differently especially if they're referring to something wild you might have just done and it might have even been playful and naughty. Good to see you can have an open mind on these things

Did I start this when I posted the following?

"Everywhere I've ever worked (fairly formal environments) it has always been first names within ourselves, Mr. or Ms. X when clients are present, or when to referring to each other in front of a client (as in Mr, X can't see you until Friday). To insist on being called Ms. X among just the employees would have been seen as very uppity."

How can we have a discussion if we cannot state our experiences or observations?
I don't see that you did anything wrong Butterfly she already said she just randomly picked this thread to make her big announcement. You're right we can't have any discussions if we can't state our experiences or observations, of course that is true
 
I wasn't raised in a family that had the language used in some families. And of course, I'm 70 and raised by parents who were both "preachers kids", so our language was squeaky clean and outside the home, we were extremely polite and well-mannered. In the home we were not always so well behaved among just ourselves, but compared to most kids nowadays, we were pretty good kids. As I grew up, things changed and I was around those whose words that weren't nice. I got used to it somewhat, didn't like it. Depends on the context and how "bad" and insulting the words were.The language that is crude and disgusting, I can't use as far as sexually oriented words. Nor do I want to hear them, but what can you do?. My DH used to use some cuss words when working or among the guys, but he now doesn't. And he always respected females in general, in spite of being an alcoholic (not a drinker for a decade and half now).
 
Congratulations to your husband Linda W for his long term sobriety good for him.
 
If the name calling is in jest and by friends then it's ok. But to outright call a woman a bitch well that's rude, even though some do warrant the name calling due to behavior and attitude.
 
If the name calling is in jest and by friends then it's ok. But to outright call a woman a bitch well that's rude, even though some do warrant the name calling due to behavior and attitude.
I disagree that some do deserve to be called something demeaning. Another way to handle it is to learn to be assertive with such people.
 
This is going to be my last post, no particular reason for signing off on this topic, it just happened to be top of my list of e mails

I want to thank some very nice people that I have met in my time here, you all know who you are and I shall miss you.

My reasons for signing out are few but important to me, just a tad too much of something I can't be part of. I don't like the in fighting in some topics and when I found I was bring drawn into it I knew I had to go.

.Just as a last comment on this thread. My very last comment .There still is an acceptable etiquette for 2017. Do's and Don't;s. One may argue it doesn't matter but if it loses you that job or big deal because you didn't know what to do what to say etc you may want to re think it. For reasons I won't go into I have had to keep up over the years and although some of these "rules " may still seem out dated to some, they are not if one ever has to travel in circles where it matters. Some of it is quite funny as well as pertinent.The really up to date ones are quite a lot of fun..try Emily Post 2016 for a really good read.

So to you all. may your God or whatever you hold dear bring you peace and contentment all the rest of your days.

My sincere good wishes to you all

XX Jeannie
It's a shame that people feel they have to leave here because others can't be nice.
 
Many years ago, a group of us were working out in Rochester, Minnesota. One of the guys came from Yorkshire, and would usually call women "love". One day an American female colleague reported him for sexual harassment for greeting her with "Morning love" , which in the UK would be a friendly gesture. She was called much worse names after that.
For some reason that I cannot fathom, there are some men who think that using the word love as a term of address, perfectly acceptable. Time and again during my working life when I pointed out that if addressing a man they used the term, Sir, then doesn't the lady deserve equal formality and respect? After all, the term Ma'am is used in the armed forces, the police and addressing royalty without thought or embarrassment. Still some couldn't understand and thought that I was being politically correct.

There are some terms though that lend themselves to gender. When my secretary perceptively pre-empted me and had a report ready on my desk, I would smile and say, "You're a treasure," she smiled back. But when I used the term "You're a star," to a junior male manager for going the extra mile, it made me think that maybe I should use the same endearment to all staff regardless of gender.

By and large, we were all on first name terms and any sort of endearment was only used as a way of emphasising gratitude. In the work environment swearing was prohibited, I wouldn't tolerate it, nor touching, everyone should feel safe at work. It was a tribute that we had a very low staff turnover and I felt honoured when we needed help by working on an extra hour, those who could, did.
 
Years ago, when I worked for a company that had a cafeteria, our engineering team used to eat lunch together. One day, one of the guys was talking about his daughter in high school and how he wouldn't let any boys touch her.

I asked the naïve question as to why it is that if a father's son gets laid, the father is proud that his son has "become a man", but if the daughter does it, she is a slut?

The response from the table was "we don't talk about that". I was stunned. But then, I always seem to notice these discrepancies and talk about what we are not supposed to talk about.

Tony
 

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