Girl Found Guilty Of Encouraging Boy Friend To Commit Suicide-By Text Message

Camper6 said:
Keeripes. If he's that stupid he should commit suicide so he doesn't infect the gene pool with stupidity.
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The whole case is sad but stupid. To top it off they say many threatening suicide do it to manipulate people and I think this girl saw that in her own way. I don't think this guy knew what he wanted in life period. And how long have phrases like 'take a flying leap' been used in heated conversations without incident.
 

Gosh Camper, What an uncaring response. Hope you have no friends or family suffering from depression.
I concede that the girl played a role, but manslaughter is kind of a stretch. I did not follow the trial, so I don't know the particulars. If she had to be charged with a crime, how about something concerning depraved indifference.
 
I had to look up the legal meaning of INvoluntary manslaughter, cuz it sounded pretty deliberate to me and seemed to not make sense.
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"1-Someone was killed as a result of the defendant's actions.

2-The act either was inherently dangerous to others or done with reckless disregard for human life.

3-The defendant knew or should have known his or her conduct was a threat to the lives of others."


criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/involuntary-manslaughter-overview.html
 
Robusta said:
Gosh Camper, What an uncaring response. Hope you have no friends or family suffering from depression.
I concede that the girl played a role, but manslaughter is kind of a stretch. I did not follow the trial, so I don't know the particulars. If she had to be charged with a crime, how about something concerning depraved indifference.
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Uncaring? Nonsense. There's a difference between depression and stupidity. Imagine a girl is telling you to commit suicide and you are seriously listening to her? I have no sympathy for someone that dumb. Sorry. That's just the way I am and I'm not going to change at my age.
 
What got me was that he changed his mind and got out of the truck and she texted him to get back in. She got what she deserved. She is sick also.
 
Regarding clinical depression. This is recognized as a mental illness. In it's severest forms, it can cripple a person's cognitive abilities to the extent that clear decision making is all but impossible. I have been there, I don't beliieve I was stupid, but I

certainly was suggestible. Even psychologists are vulnerable to being scrambled. Whether depression is biochemical, or situational, it can erode a person's sense of proportion, and self worth, plunging them into a pit of despair, where death can seem the only escape. This does not speak to character, but to the ravages of an often deadly disease.
 
Carter was tried as a juvenile because she was 17 at the time of the crime.

Carter was found guilty Friday of involuntary manslaughter.

I doubt she'll go to prison, likely a juvenile detention facility, perhaps until she's 25.

I hope that she feels and understands the gravity of this monstrous act she committed, and turns her way of thinking around.
 
The girl was evil and heartless for doing that, but it is a stretch to actually charge her with manslaughter IMO. Like WhatInThe said, many times people say these types a callous things to others without anything coming of it.
 
I think this text is what sealed her fate.

Ms. Carter to a friend. “Sam his death is my fault, like honestly I could have stopped him,” Ms. Carter wrote. “I was on the phone with him and he got out of the car because it was working and he got scared.” She said she then instructed him “to get back in.”
 
It's hard for me to fathom how someone could be gullible enough to let somebody talk them into killing themselves in the first place but then I also can't understand how someone could join a cult and be conned into drinking knowingly poisoned Kool-Aid or why 30 or 40 people in the late 90's would commit suicide together thinking that aliens from outer space would send a spaceship down for them later either.......it just boggles my mind on how easily some people can be manipulated.
 
Young immature males are so besotted with their sexuality that they will willingly allow a young willing female to lead them right to the edge and then push them over. And many young girls love having the power.
 
SeaBreeze said:
The girl was evil and heartless for doing that, but it is a stretch to actually charge her with manslaughter IMO. Like WhatInThe said, many times people say these types a callous things to others without anything coming of it.
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I agree -- I think they should have charged her with a lesser offense. Having said that though, I believe she knew exactly what she was doing and wanted him to kill himself, and pushed him to it. Maybe we need a new class of crimes for this cyber stuff?
 
That was very hard and sad for me to read. About 15 yrs ago a younger cousin of mine was suffering from her marriage breaking up. She would visit me often and talk about killing herself. I would talk to her and try to reason with her and she seemed better when she would leave. I honestly didn't think she would do it. She had everything going for her, except her marriage.She had a lot of money and her own business. She was very successful. Finally I got her an appointment with a Therapist. He had her on medication and she seemed much better. Then one day her younger sister went to visit her and she found her dead She had hung herself. We found out later that she had met a Scientologist and he told her if she committed suicide she would come back to a better life. She emptied her bank account ,gave him the money and then hung herself. He was never charged with any crime, because the family did have proof, just what they had heard.
 
Sassycakes, that is so sad. :(

Religious (or so-called religious) groups have caused misery for so many people who are already vulnerable and lonely. I remember the Jim Jones People's Temple in the late 1970s. IIRC over 900 people died.

There was a case in my area where some hot-shot minister (I think Baptist) went after an elderly woman who won the lottery. He almost got away with it, but family and lawyers stepped in.
 
I just noticed this thread. It was a sad situation all around. The young fellow had threatened to end his life before but with a little encouragement, unfortunately did it this time. Two lives ruined - -he's dead and her life will never be the same, never mind both sets of parents and the families involved.

I drive through that parking lot every week or so when getting groceries. The K-Mart adjacent to the lot closed recently and folks use it as a short cut today.
 
That poor young man was not "stupid or dumb". He was depressed, frightened didn't feel confident enough to live- who knows what happened to break his heart so, what fears or tortures he endured?

Anyone who can write that boy off as "dumb" or "stupid" are really the dumb and stupid ones.

Yet, for one brief moment, his instinct to live, a ray of hope came to him and she snuffed it out. Forever.

She's 17- too young to know any better or a monster who will kill another someday? I honestly don't know.
 
RadishRose said:
That poor young man was not "stupid or dumb". He was depressed, frightened didn't feel confident enough to live- who knows what happened to break his heart so, what fears or tortures he endured?

Anyone who can write that boy off as "dumb" or "stupid" are really the dumb and stupid ones.

Yet, for one brief moment, his instinct to live, a ray of hope came to him and she snuffed it out. Forever.

She's 17- too young to know any better or a monster who will kill another someday? I honestly don't know.
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Qft on all counts.
 
SeaBreeze said:
The girl was evil and heartless for doing that, but it is a stretch to actually charge her with manslaughter IMO. Like WhatInThe said, many times people say these types a callous things to others without anything coming of it.
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I agree.
 
Butterfly said:
I agree -- I think they should have charged her with a lesser offense. Having said that though, I believe she knew exactly what she was doing and wanted him to kill himself, and pushed him to it. Maybe we need a new class of crimes for this cyber stuff?
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What "lesser offense" are you suggesting she be charged with? Being "mean"? She's guilty of that, but I don't think that rises to the level of a crime. If being mean becomes a crime a whole lot of people are going to be in trouble and I'm one of them.
 

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