Breaking news Prince Harry to Marry Meghan Markle

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The engagement of Prince Harry and the American actress meghan Markle has been officially announced from Buckingham Palace this morning.

They are expected to wed in the Spring. Congratulations to both of them, and for me I think it's a breath of fresh air rather than the stuffy Royal enclosure that's kept mostly hidden from the general public..... however what are your views on this if any?

Harry has always rowed his own boat where possible within the constrictions of the royal family, so it comes as no surprise that he has chosen to love and marry and potentially have children with a woman who has no connection to the royal family ...however she's recently divorced... an actress, an American, and also a different race... which means if they have children, it will be the first time (knowingly to the public anyway)...that the blood line will not be pure white.. ( personally I am excited to see the change)

Now none of that would usually be of any concern to a so called Normal citizen...but in all honesty, do you think that any one or all of those things might cause problems...

People are talking about the fall of the royal family...and the beginnings of a republic... now given that the Queen and prince Philip are now in their 90's and there's little doubt that Charles (Harry's father) will be in his 70's before he becomes King... do you think that perhaps when William becomes King (which he has publicly declared he'd rather not have to be)... that he along with his brother may be the cause of the ''downfall'' of the Royal house of Windsor...and that Great Britain may then become a republic... ?
 

I'm just wild about Harry!

I don't really know if the monarchy is a great value to the UK or not. I know they bring in lots of tourist money which is great, but a lot is spent on them too. ( I read that Charles has a man put toothpaste on his toothbrush for him). I don't know how the scale tips....

Being divorced shouldn't matter anymore, nor should being American, partly black or even (horrors) if she was Catholic. I don't think the people care much about these things anymore.

As far as the Queen, she probably still does in her heart, but they lost all this control a long time ago and she knows it. All of this has been done before and as far as race, who really knows?

It's my feeling the people want a nice wedding more than anything else.

It may just very well be that the monarchy is on the way out, but who knows when?

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I'm happy for Harry.

I think that Harry and his bride will have a few bumps in the road but I'm confident that Harry will be able to handle them.

I believe that if William takes the throne he will do his part to preserve the monarchy for future generations.

We'll see!
 

Poor Meghan, she’s certainly being ‘thrown in at the deep end’, wonder what she will make of all the royal protocol during Christmas at Sandringham.....
 
I'm sure William would preserve the tourist-loving parts of the British Monarchy and make changes to the suffocating rules that don't work for today and for the future. I don't think either sons would want to be the reason for a complete downfall, but good healthy changes? Yes.

If William was offered the royal seat, I'm not sure he would take it. He reealllly doesn't like it nor does it fit into his lifestyle. He just wouldn't be happy. Nor would he want to leave it to his children. Would he? I'm just guessing since I'm not all that privy to it...in-the-know that is (in the uk, privy probably means toilet lol).
 
Lara said:
I'm sure William would preserve the tourist-loving parts of the British Monarchy and make changes to the suffocating rules that don't work for today and for the future. I don't think either sons would want to be the reason for a complete downfall, but good healthy changes? Yes.

If William was offered the royal seat, I'm not sure he would take it. He reealllly doesn't like it nor does it fit into his lifestyle. He just wouldn't be happy. Nor would he want to leave it to his children. Would he? I'm just guessing since I'm not all that privy to it...in-the-know that is (in the uk, privy probably means toilet lol).
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Not in the modern world...perhaps in my grandparents world when they used an outside toilet lol
 
I've always had the feeling that the British public loves their monarchy, although that love may have worn a bit thin during the period immediately following Diana's death. Admittedly, I get most of this from the movies and documentaries I see. I did get the feeling that Diana had been horribly mistreated, was greatly loved (by the public, probably not by her husband), and the Queen behaved pretty badly after her death. The monarchy may have reached a low point then, but I think the Queen, and the monarchy, snapped back.

There must be a need for all the pomp and circumstance, unless the people feel that it is devastating to the economy.

I'd like to know how the Brits in this forum feel about it.
 
Personally I think I'd rather have a Monarchy than a president...and so many british people feel the same although not all by any means...many see the monarchy as expensive mannequins, not fully understanding the role of the family..

However I do believe that it's outdated in this country..in that if for example, Trump died, his immediate first born would then become president, without any voting from the public, and then his first born and so on regardless of their ability ..I'm sure the American public would be up in arms about that.. however that said, our Royalty doesn't make the important decisions , our government does, but they still have to defer to the queen before any huge decisions are agreed upon in Parliament..and although she can make her opinions clear, she can't for the most part make changes.

There's a lot of rot spoken about royalty being good for tourism, but it's nonsense for the most part, because tourists don't get to visit with the Queen or the royal family..nor do they see them out on the streets unless there's some huge celebration like a wedding or funeral ..the closest a tourist can get is to the gates of a palace or walk around a royalty owned public garden...so if we had no royals those things would still be available to tourists..as they are in all other countries..

All that said I would describe myself for the most part as a royalist..but only limited to those who seem to earn their money...the Queen and Prince Philip, Princess Anne and Zara phillips... prince Harry...

Lots of British feel that (rightly or wrongly ) that William and Catherine are not pulling their weight...and neither are the rest of the royal family, particularly Prince Andrew and his ex wife sarah who is still hanging on by her coat tails and living off him, and their 2 daughters never hold a job for longer than a few weeks..and are eternally on expensive holidays at the public expense..

In a nutshell..because I could go on about this forever... , I would be very happy to have a Monarchy but severely pared down..so that only the immediate family are recognised as crowned heads.. and the the rest although born into blue blood should like they do in many other countries..have to work and live outside in the community among normal every day people...
 
So, what is the protocol for her Will she need to become a citizen of GB? Last time we had an American become royalty, I think was when Grace Kelly married into the Monaco royal family.
 
@hollydolly

I don't see how you can compare the Royal family to an American presidency. AND don't forget, Britain has a Prime Minister (Theresa May). The Royal family is ceremonial, they don't govern the UK citizens, and they have no power/authority re: laws. Here in the US the President has tremendous power and authority. If Trump died, Mike Pence would automatically become president - that's the main reason why we have a Vice President.
 
NO monarchy. They have no power. Look at the mess they have now with all those refugees. The old kings and queens are rolling in their graves how far Britain has fallen.
 
Harry is very clucky and his bride is 36(?) so I expect that children will happen soon unless there is a fertility problem.
I hope they are very happy together and am confident that they will be. It is a love match after all and they have already been living together. The ceremony is just a formality.

No-one has mentioned Meghan's activism on behalf of women I understand she has worked with the UN (?) Shades of Diana and no doubt something that Harry will support.
 
applecruncher said:
@hollydolly

I don't see how you can compare the Royal family to an American presidency. AND don't forget, Britain has a Prime Minister (Theresa May). The Royal family is ceremonial, they don't govern the UK citizens, and they have no power/authority re: laws. Here in the US the President has tremendous power and authority. If Trump died, Mike Pence would automatically become president - that's the main reason why we have a Vice President.
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if you read back at my post you will see that I said that our Queen doesn't have the power to govern as our parliament does... although they do have to consult with her on major issues..

Our elected Govt makes all the decisions in this country which is why we vote them in as you do with your president...but unlike our Royals ...our elected presidents' children would not automatically govern the country..instead our Home secretary would probably assume the chair in the event of Mrs May's sudden death for example..until an elected prime minister is chosen by the people..there's no automatic right govern this country in parliament, as there is for an automatic rule by birthright in the royal family..
 
In recent centuries even the King or Queen and/or consorts were foreign nationals being either Scottish (James I), French (Richard the Lion Heart), Greek (Prince Phillip), Spanish (Catherine of Aragon), Dutch (William of Orange) or German (George III). Queen Alexandra of Denmark was the wife of Edward VII.

Plucked them out of my memory so I can't swear to the accuracy but I reckon Meghan will fit right in in 21st century.
 
hollydolly said:
if you read back at my post you will see that I said that our Queen doesn't have the power to govern as our parliament does... although they do have to consult with her on major issues..

Our elected Govt makes all the decisions in this country which is why we vote them in as you do with your president...but unlike our Royals ...our elected presidents' children would not automatically govern the country..instead our Home secretary would probably assume the chair in the event of Mrs May's sudden death for example..until an elected prime minister is chosen by the people..there's no automatic right govern this country in parliament, as there is for an automatic rule by birthright in the royal family..
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Ahh....I see.
 
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