I'm Proud Of all You Women!

HiDesertHal

HiDesertHal

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I'm proud of all you women who have blown the whistle and pointed the finger at those depraved sexual predators!

Keep fighting and let the media know about all those incidents as they occur!

(That doctor Larry Nassar should be castrated!)

Hal
 

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HiDesertHal said:
I'm proud of all you women who have blown the whistle and pointed the finger at those depraved sexual predators!

Keep fighting and let the media know about all those incidents as they occur!

(That Nasser should be castrated!)

Hal
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Where he is going he might be!!!
 
Thank you Hal.

While I have nothing to complain of, having grown up surrounded, with one or two exceptions, by really decent menfolk, I hate to think of my grand daughters or even the many girls I have taught over the years being subjected to the indignities and assaults we are hearing about today. It has to stop being swept under the carpet.
 

Personal comments and touching should always be avoided.

On the other hand there is the very flaunting way many women are dressed these days. Looking for admiration or to attract wolf whistles? Or just hoping for getting into a dress situation and getting millions from their employers for the comments they received.

There really are two sides to all these stories.
 
Bob, women are now emboldened to speak out whereas formerly they kept silent. I read on a Canadian site yesterday that women are reporting being groped on a sky train going home from work. One woman was molested once on the train and then again at the station when she got off, by the same man who had followed her.

Think about how cold it is right now in Canada. These women are dressed for warmth, not as bait for weak men. The old excuse of "she was asking for it" won't wash any more.
 
I used this on another website:

We are the history makers and the memory keepers.
We are the snot catchers and the ass wipers.
We’ve seen it all, heard it all, and smelled it all,
but we wouldn’t have it any other way.
We are millions of unique women, united by motherhood.
We are scary, and we are proud.
 
I am a mother and a grandmother but before that I was a girl and a young woman.
All women, whether they ever become mother or not have many things in common that are not on your list.

We are bright and witty and we have dreams of our own.
We are vulnerable yet brave and we refuse to be devalued.
We are sexual beings but we are not sex objects.
We offer love and we hope that it is returned.
We are neither whores nor God's police.

We are humanity just like our fathers,
brothers and if we have them, our sons.
 
BobF said:
On the other hand there is the very flaunting way many women are dressed these days. Looking for admiration or to attract wolf whistles? Or just hoping for getting into a dress situation and getting millions from their employers for the comments they received.

There really are two sides to all these stories.
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Oh, puleeze.:rolleyes: The most ignorant comments I've seen today.
 
Society has changed so much that I haven't the first clue of what women want. Heck, I don't even know if it is permitted to flirt with an attractive woman. As far as actually asking her out on a date, that too may be stepping over the line.

A few weeks ago I met a stunning raven haired beauty with dark flashing eyes and an aura of mystery about her. She might have been 50 years of age or she might have been 65. She was one of those women that was impossible to tell her age. A few decades ago I probably would have asked her to lunch or at least coffee, but not today. I hear so many complaints coming from women about being pestered by men that I decided against asking her out.

Oh, well. I'll let the younger generations figure it out. But, oh my, she surely took my breath away.
 
Traveler said:
Society has changed so much that I haven't the first clue of what women want. Heck, I don't even know if it is permitted to flirt with an attractive woman. As far as actually asking her out on a date, that too may be stepping over the line.

A few weeks ago I met a stunning raven haired beauty with dark flashing eyes and an aura of mystery about her. She might have been 50 years of age or she might have been 65. She was one of those women that was impossible to tell her age. A few decades ago I probably would have asked her to lunch or at least coffee, but not today. I hear so many complaints coming from women about being pestered by men that I decided against asking her out.

Oh, well. I'll let the younger generations figure it out. But, oh my, she surely took my breath away.
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Six weeks ago and you haven't met her since? You are allowed a follow up meeting at which you could offer to buy her coffee and get to know her a bit better. And vice versa. There's a median line between rushing at a woman like a bull at a gatepost and sitting on your hands doing nothing.
 
Warrigal said:
Six weeks ago and you haven't met her since? You are allowed a follow up meeting at which you could offer to buy her coffee and get to know her a bit better. And vice versa. There's a median line between rushing at a woman like a bull at a gatepost and sitting on your hands doing nothing.
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I didn't say SIX weeks. I said a few weeks. But the point I was making is that since so many women are seriously p***ed off at men, I don't have any desire to get in their way.

To me, it's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. Many women go to great lengths to look attractive/sexy but they can turn right around and make some catty remark if men approach them. I admit, I do miss the wonderful loving times but, in the end the price to be paid is too high.
 
BobF said:
Personal comments and touching should always be avoided.

On the other hand there is the very flaunting way many women are dressed these days. Looking for admiration or to attract wolf whistles? Or just hoping for getting into a dress situation and getting millions from their employers for the comments they received.

There really are two sides to all these stories.
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Flaunting? Men have been harassing women from the beginning, even back when women were dressed from their earlobes to the tips of their shoes!

"....hoping for getting into a dress situation...."- what does that mean?

Times are changing. Accountability is now being demanded.


 
Traveler said:
Society has changed so much that I haven't the first clue of what women want. Heck, I don't even know if it is permitted to flirt with an attractive woman. As far as actually asking her out on a date, that too may be stepping over the line.

A few weeks ago I met a stunning raven haired beauty with dark flashing eyes and an aura of mystery about her. She might have been 50 years of age or she might have been 65. She was one of those women that was impossible to tell her age. A few decades ago I probably would have asked her to lunch or at least coffee, but not today. I hear so many complaints coming from women about being pestered by men that I decided against asking her out.

Oh, well. I'll let the younger generations figure it out. But, oh my, she surely took my breath away.
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Oh. Traveler. That was YOU?
We could have had a quick coffee, but my schedule was very tight that day. Had to rush to LAX and catch my flight home.
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Traveler said:
I didn't say SIX weeks. I said a few weeks. But the point I was making is that since so many women are seriously p***ed off at men, I don't have any desire to get in their way.

To me, it's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. Many women go to great lengths to look attractive/sexy but they can turn right around and make some catty remark if men approach them. I admit, I do miss the wonderful loving times but, in the end the price to be paid is too high.
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Sorry, I don't know where I picked up the idea of six weeks.
Yes, many women go to great lengths to look attractive/sexy and they can turn around with a catty remark, but most don't do this.
Women do themselves up for a number of reasons including being afraid of "letting themselves go". For this reason they starve themselves and exercise, they wear clothes that make them appear younger and they pay a small fortune to hair stylists and beauticians. Underneath all of this there can be found serious insecurity and fear of getting old. This can result is a rebuff that is a defensive mechanism.

It is wise to approach as you would a timid woodland creature - approach slowly and speak softly so as not to frighten her off. Patience is needed. Faint heart never won fair lady.

Don't pay any attention to my ramblings. I will have been married continuously for 55 years next March. What would I know?
 
applecruncher said:
Oh. Traveler. That was YOU?
We could have had a quick coffee, but my schedule was very tight that day. Had to rush to LAX and catch my flight home.
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haha I like it. :eek:

In all seriousness, however, it has been many years since I made a pass, and a few years before that, when the pass was caught. I'll tell you a secret. That dark mysterious beauty, of age 50-65, I'd much rather be with HER than any of the younger ones. 20 days later, and I'm still dreamin' of her.
 
Traveler said:
The price to be paid is not always financial. Sometimes the emotional price can be so heavy that it can feel as if the world is ending.
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we were talking about the same thing

Us guys are so predicable
We know (right now!)
when each other is pissed
what we like
what we hate
why we think each other’s an idiot
and on and on
it’s comfortable

but
ever so often
the mysteries of the other side
become of interest
the physical, sure

but the metaphysical
the attempt at understanding those beings that
are so deep, yet so sensitive, and oftentimes don’t completely understand themselves….

Here’s the only solid bit of info I’ve been able to take away;
Do NOT! tell them what they feel!!!
(I’m working on being let back in the kitchen)

anyway

Venture back out there, Trav
Yes, the price is high
But so worth it
 
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Warrigal said:
Sorry, I don't know where I picked up the idea of six weeks.
Yes, many women go to great lengths to look attractive/sexy and they can turn around with a catty remark, but most don't do this.
Women do themselves up for a number of reasons including being afraid of "letting themselves go". For this reason they starve themselves and exercise, they wear clothes that make them appear younger and they pay a small fortune to hair stylists and beauticians. Underneath all of this there can be found serious insecurity and fear of getting old. This can result is a rebuff that is a defensive mechanism.

It is wise to approach as you would a timid woodland creature - approach slowly and speak softly so as not to frighten her off. Patience is needed. Faint heart never won fair lady.

Don't pay any attention to my ramblings. I will have been married continuously for 55 years next March. What would I know?
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About the defense mechanism ? I believe you, but I sure don't understand the rebuff part. IMO. when a person shows an interest in another, female to male or male to female, a compliment is being made. I would think that having just been paid a compliment she would lose that "serious insecurity", at least for a few minutes."
 
Traveler said:
The price to be paid is not always financial. Sometimes the emotional price can be so heavy that it can feel as if the world is ending.
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I’m gonna contribute one more thing on this, then leave it alone;

Traveler, you mentioned in another thread that you are a helluva cook, chef, connoisseur
That is so cool
But
One can only sit to their own creations for just so long
It’s, it’s…what’s the word….ah, anticlimactic

Git back out there

(yes, this is all a metaphor)
 
BobF said:
Personal comments and touching should always be avoided.

On the other hand there is the very flaunting way many women are dressed these days. Looking for admiration or to attract wolf whistles? Or just hoping for getting into a dress situation and getting millions from their employers for the comments they received.

There really are two sides to all these stories.
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BobF, a woman should be able to wear whatever she wishes without fear of some neanderthal feeling he has the right to attack her physically or verbally.
 
Warrigal said:
Bob, women are now emboldened to speak out whereas formerly they kept silent. I read on a Canadian site yesterday that women are reporting being groped on a sky train going home from work. One woman was molested once on the train and then again at the station when she got off, by the same man who had followed her.

Think about how cold it is right now in Canada. These women are dressed for warmth, not as bait for weak men. The old excuse of "she was asking for it" won't wash any more.
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I think you both have a point. No woman deserves an unwanted touch or comment. I personally have never been comfortable with hugging a woman, even when she initiates it. At work, it was work comments only. I never felt a whistle or content in public was right, so never did it.

The point Bob makes can have merit. Hollywood women complaining about harassment, but look how they are dressed on the carpet. That doesn't give the men of Hollywood the right to comment or touch, but the way you dress is sending a message. That's why we dress proper for a job interview, you dress to impress. Also why people carry 1,000 purses, and shoes. They want to say success. Women get together and talk about we can dress anyway we like, and i agree, but you ever have a woman come up and smile at you dressed with lots of exposure and your wife is standing next to you? Oh yea, that's when she comments, who is that? She works in accounting, oh, well I know what she wants! It goes both ways. Harvey W. It's a jerk, and possibly criminal, but his many women offered him without his solicitation? Many, many women want the millionaire, see them on dating sites, it's on there list of requirements. Say what you want about how someone's dresses, but how many times have you heard a woman say, oh look she's a slut. Lol... I just stay out of it all. Although I have fired men for improper words or touch, I had no tolerance for it. I knew women felt comfortable around me, and really had no problem telling me if there was a problem.


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