Medical Marijuana and Other Questions About Pot

[Smiling Jane]

I just looked it up and I see that some people are allergic to the nightshade family of fruits and veg.

I don't know that I have an actual allergy, but like I said if I eat tomato today, I'll pay for it tomorrow. Once in a great while I'll eat a real homegrown non-plastic tomato because I can't resist a good BLT, but I better only eat one sandwich.

Other veggies in that group have simply lost their appeal. A friend recently raved about and sent me a new recipe for moussaka and I was meh about it, although I used to love a good moussaka. I get a weird, not good flavor from peppers, which is probably a good sign to avoid them.

Another thing I don't handle well is peanuts.

I had no idea there is research that shows an issue with nightshade causing joint pain. I have only been aware of my problem because of my food diary. Here's a link to a Livestrong article:

https://www.livestrong.com/article/478500-vegetables-joint-aches/

 

[rgp]

I don't remember exact numbers but, I read somewhere that on average <3% of the population are allergic to or effected by food allergies. Nightshade , Gluten and all the others. As such [purely opinion] on my part , I find it hard to imagine that those are leading , or even mentionable reasons for most of the conditions folks discuss.

They seem to be 'buzz-words' of late, and again [opinion] taken way out of context.

As they say...follow the money .......I went to the store just to check on the 'clean' foods...WoW! are they ever over-priced . Do not mean to be cynical but...I see connection there. What's the old saying ? Create a need....then fill it.

 

[Ruthanne]

I tried the CBD oil under the tongue ...no help. I tried three different strengths , over a three month period... Glad it works for some.

A local woman involved in the growth & distribution of pot said that one of the problems getting our {Ohio} program rolling...pun intended ...Is the lack of doctors signing up for the training required for them to prescribe the stuff ?

Makes me wonder if maybe they [docs] are afraid their patients will request it and it might actually work better for their patients than the pain meds they [patients] are currently on ?

I hope there will be some doctors that will get the training. I see your point about the doctors not wanting marijuana to work better; makes sense.

 

[Ruthanne]

MDs are unlikely to touch the issue of medical marijuana unless and until they're assured it won't jeopardize their medical licenses. That's not going to happen in the foreseeable future because of the DOJ's policies.

What I can tell you is that CBD is quite effective in treating PTSD, but most people find that adding a small amount of THC is helpful.

I have no way of getting any pot or the thc. I wish I did.

 

[James]

I have no way of getting any pot or the thc. I wish I did.

Several colleagues of mine are being treated for PTSD, Operational Stress Injuries and prefer the CBD over the anti depressants, anti anxiety protocols. They claim virtually zero side effects with better results.

I was diagnosed with PTSD and tried the big pharma route but absolutely hated the side effects so I stopped. Working out, counselling helps although I know that I still require "something".

Weed becomes legal here later this year which will also increase the availability of medical weed and dispensaries for it (recreational weed will only be allowed through Government run outlets). I'll be giving it a go then. The hassles/red tape of getting it up until now were a real PITA.

 

[rgp]

Several colleagues of mine are being treated for PTSD, Operational Stress Injuries and prefer the CBD over the anti depressants, anti anxiety protocols. They claim virtually zero side effects with better results.

I was diagnosed with PTSD and tried the big pharma route but absolutely hated the side effects so I stopped. Working out, counselling helps although I know that I still require "something".

Weed becomes legal here later this year which will also increase the availability of medical weed and dispensaries for it (recreational weed will only be allowed through Government run outlets). I'll be giving it a go then. The hassles/red tape of getting it up until now were a real PITA.

I too intend to try full on pot for my arthritis when it becomes available. If I can get a doc to prescribe that is? Although I'm not going to hang my hat on it...I hope it comes available soon.

 

[RadishRose]

A good friend of mine has stress related swelling of a blood vessel in her head, which could cause blindness or worse. It's something found mainly in older Scandanavian women, She lives on small amounts of Presdnisone, but if she stops the drug she hurts.

So far she hasn't been able to get a prescription for medical marijuana because, as her doctor said; "I'm not that kind of doctor." Others have said the same thing. I spoke of this before and things remain the same!

 

[rgp]

A good friend of mine has stress related swelling of a blood vessel in her head, which could cause blindness or worse. It's something found mainly in older Scandanavian women, She lives on small amounts of Presdnisone, but if she stops the drug she hurts.

So far she hasn't been able to get a prescription for medical marijuana because, as her doctor said; "I'm not that kind of doctor." Others have said the same thing. I spoke of this before and things remain the same!

Exactly what i was talking about before RR , in two ways.

One being that docs are IMO dragging their collective feet..why?..again opinion but they know it might just work for some...and they do not want to loose that amount of prescriptions to big pharma.....follow the money. In the mean time they may be getting the ducks lined up so they have all the key players on their side in place.....follow the money.

Secondly, you mentioned your friends ethnic background, and how her condition is more common in it. Again, what effects one, may not another, conversely, what works for one may not another.

 

[Ruthanne]

Several colleagues of mine are being treated for PTSD, Operational Stress Injuries and prefer the CBD over the anti depressants, anti anxiety protocols. They claim virtually zero side effects with better results.

I was diagnosed with PTSD and tried the big pharma route but absolutely hated the side effects so I stopped. Working out, counselling helps although I know that I still require "something".

Weed becomes legal here later this year which will also increase the availability of medical weed and dispensaries for it (recreational weed will only be allowed through Government run outlets). I'll be giving it a go then. The hassles/red tape of getting it up until now were a real PITA.

Wish I lived there! I just got a new medicine yesterday and so far it hasn't bothered me but we will see.

 

[Smiling Jane]

I have no way of getting any pot or the thc. I wish I did.

CBD isn't illegal anywhere, that I know of anyway. It does not make a person high or have any of the effects of THC, and that's why it's not illegal. It's being given to PTSD sufferers and it seems to work.

 

[Ruthanne]

CBD isn't illegal anywhere, that I know of anyway. It does not make a person high or have any of the effects of THC, and that's why it's not illegal. It's being given to PTSD sufferers and it seems to work.

What is CBD?

 

[James]

What is CBD?

CBD are the cannabinoids found in Marihuana that are found to be therapeutic for so many problems. THC is the psychoactive chemical in Marihuana that gives you the "high".

In many Countries CBD is legal as long as there is no THC mixed in or only very small trace amounts. A lot of treatments use a mixture of both {more than trace amounts of THC} which is illegal unless you have a medical marijuana license....at least that's the way it is here in the great white north.

 

[Smiling Jane]

I've said this before so I hope that doesn't bother anyone, but we have a local herb store that sells CBD with no THC. We have medical marijuana dispensaries throughout the state, but CBD by itself does not require a prescription or a medical marijuana dispensary. It's perfectly legal because there's no THC. People go there to get CBD to treat PTSD, seizure and anxiety issues. It doesn't show up in a test for marijuana, so it doesn't interfere with regular treatment by MDs and pain clinics.

Edited to add: You can buy CBD online, but be very cautious. Because the FDA refuses to oversee CBD, you might not get what you think you're buying. Do good due diligence if you want to go in this direction.

 

[James]

I've said this before so I hope that doesn't bother anyone, but we have a local herb store that sells CBD with no THC. We have medical marijuana dispensaries throughout the state, but CBD by itself does not require a prescription or a medical marijuana dispensary. It's perfectly legal because there's no THC. People go there to get CBD to treat PTSD, seizure and anxiety issues. It doesn't show up in a test for marijuana, so it doesn't interfere with regular treatment by MDs and pain clinics.

Edited to add: You can buy CBD online, but be very cautious. Because the FDA refuses to oversee CBD, you might not get what you think you're buying. Do good due diligence if you want to go in this direction.

Same thing here in Canada with the non THC CBD. Its unregulated so buyer beware. On the medical side "with" THC its regulated but you also need a license to purchase....for now until it become "legal" sometime this summer or fall.

 

[Ruthanne]

CBD are the cannabinoids found in Marihuana that are found to be therapeutic for so many problems. THC is the psychoactive chemical in Marihuana that gives you the "high".

In many Countries CBD is legal as long as there is no THC mixed in or only very small trace amounts. A lot of treatments use a mixture of both {more than trace amounts of THC} which is illegal unless you have a medical marijuana license....at least that's the way it is here in the great white north.

Thanks.

I've said this before so I hope that doesn't bother anyone, but we have a local herb store that sells CBD with no THC. We have medical marijuana dispensaries throughout the state, but CBD by itself does not require a prescription or a medical marijuana dispensary. It's perfectly legal because there's no THC. People go there to get CBD to treat PTSD, seizure and anxiety issues. It doesn't show up in a test for marijuana, so it doesn't interfere with regular treatment by MDs and pain clinics.

Edited to add: You can buy CBD online, but be very cautious. Because the FDA refuses to oversee CBD, you might not get what you think you're buying. Do good due diligence if you want to go in this direction.

Thanks.

 

[Senex]

I hear it relieves pain but I don't know anyone that uses the medical kind, so I wonder if it works for arthritis pain.

It's been decades since I've smoked any, so I don't remember.

They say the chemical that produces the high is removed, but what about people who are licensed to grow it for their own medical use?

Last year The Washington post said-

"Legal marijuana is saving lives in Colorado, study finds




by Christopher Ingraham October 16, 2017 "

"Marijuana legalization in Colorado led to a “reversal” of opiate overdose deaths in that state, according to new research published in the American Journal of Public Health."



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-colorado-study-finds/?utm_term=.a2f2c5e9bfbb

Its been about 15 years since I smoked it, but before that I was all over it, and used it in all its forms: Pot, Hashish, Charas, Hash Oil, and Red Oil for a long time. I don't recall any pain relief property. Never did a thing for my headaches. I expect that for arthritis pain, the high might make it so you don't care...kinda like Nitrous oxide makes you not care what the dentist does. Don't know how the medical marijuana is in your state, but I'm pretty sure the high is not removed from the stuff here in NorCal. Considering all the different forms available, its possible there is something available like decaffeinated coffee.

 

[Gary O']

Same thing here in Canada with the non THC CBD. Its unregulated so buyer beware. On the medical side "with" THC its regulated but you also need a license to purchase....for now until it become "legal" sometime this summer or fall.

Permit me to jump in here
Wife and I have been using the CBD oil and balm for around three weeks now.
Pain free weeks
She has been so crippled up with knee pain, operations, or shots were all but inevitable
Not so now
My back was so seized up I simply could not do basic chores, or sometimes even move
Getting out of the lazy boy became a planned event
Half hr after rubbing the balm on my back, I began to feel incredible relief
Now, three weeks later, if either of us begin to feel those old pains come on, we’re droppin’ and rubbin’
No THC
No opiates
No shots
No operations
Don’t care if we have to use this stuff the rest of our lives
….lives without pain
Miracle?
Yes
Nothing short
For us

BTW, my granddaughter has dravet syndrome
Seizures
Incredible seizures
Not so with the CBD oil

May or may not work for everyone/everything
But taking opiates doesn’t either
We use Go Green products
If anyone is considering shopping for best buys, don’t
There’s stuff on line passing for CBD oil, of which is nothing more than cooking oil

I'll be outside today
whistling while I work
and skipping

 

[SifuPhil]

Its been about 15 years since I smoked it, but before that I was all over it, and used it in all its forms: Pot, Hashish, Charas, Hash Oil, and Red Oil for a long time. I don't recall any pain relief property. Never did a thing for my headaches. I expect that for arthritis pain, the high might make it so you don't care...kinda like Nitrous oxide makes you not care what the dentist does. Don't know how the medical marijuana is in your state, but I'm pretty sure the high is not removed from the stuff here in NorCal. Considering all the different forms available, its possible there is something available like decaffeinated coffee.

15 years ago pot was a very different animal. There was very little knowledge of custom blending, just "Acapulco Gold" or "Purple Haze".

CBD wasn't even a blip on the radar.

Things have changed quite a bit.

 

[debbie in seattle]

I live in a ‘pot state’ (Wa.) and my husband has tried it for the pain he’s in due to his cancer. Didn’t do a thing for him, but others swear by it. Docs refuse to rx it, but will tell him what to look for, buy, etc. His pot was in candy form, $4.00 + per piece of candy. He went back to pain meds rx’d by doc.

 

[RadishRose]

Wow, I guess it very well may depend on the individual- or maybe the quality. Gary and his wife are a success story. Debbie's husband, not so much.

 

[SifuPhil]

Wow, I guess it very well may depend on the individual- or maybe the quality. Gary and his wife are a success story. Debbie's husband, not so much.

Just like with any other medicine, it's never 100%. It could very well depend on quality, or source species, or quantity, or method of ingestion, or ...

 

[Senex]

15 years ago pot was a very different animal. There was very little knowledge of custom blending, just "Acapulco Gold" or "Purple Haze".

CBD wasn't even a blip on the radar.

Things have changed quite a bit.

No doubt. We got medical marijuana, and as of this year, totally legal (until the Feds send in the stormtroopers) pot. The shops selling it have like five kinds of pot, hash, hash oil, edibles, and stuff I ain't never heard of like aerosols, CBD, etc.

 

[SifuPhil]

No doubt. We got medical marijuana, and as of this year, totally legal (until the Feds send in the stormtroopers) pot. The shops selling it have like five kinds of pot, hash, hash oil, edibles, and stuff I ain't never heard of like aerosols, CBD, etc.

Yeah, I'm always waiting for the Feds to pull their Prohibition stuff again.

There are several studies that claim that medical pot is actually superior in its benefits to CBD, that Nature intended it to be used as a whole plant, not broken down into its constituent parts.

I'm on the fence about that one.

 

[IKE]

Permit me to jump in here
Wife and I have been using the CBD oil and balm for around three weeks now.
Pain free weeks
She has been so crippled up with knee pain, operations, or shots were all but inevitable
Not so now
My back was so seized up I simply could not do basic chores, or sometimes even move
Getting out of the lazy boy became a planned event
Half hr after rubbing the balm on my back, I began to feel incredible relief
Now, three weeks later, if either of us begin to feel those old pains come on, we’re droppin’ and rubbin’
No THC
No opiates
No shots
No operations
Don’t care if we have to use this stuff the rest of our lives
….lives without pain
Miracle?
Yes
Nothing short
For us

BTW, my granddaughter has dravet syndrome
Seizures
Incredible seizures
Not so with the CBD oil

May or may not work for everyone/everything
But taking opiates doesn’t either
We use Go Green products
If anyone is considering shopping for best buys, don’t
There’s stuff on line passing for CBD oil, of which is nothing more than cooking oil

I'll be outside today
whistling while I work
and skipping

Gary,

When using the balm how much do you use, a big glob like pictured below ?

How big is the tin of balm ?

 

[Gary O']

Gary,

When using the balm how much do you use, a big glob like pictured below ?

How big is the tin of balm ?

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the tin is quite small @ 25ml (smaller than a golf ball)
but, after three weeks, we have barely grazed the surface
just enough to feel it but not see it on two fingers
rub, massage on the area for a half minute or so