OMG, I went to D.C., which was my home airport when I flew for United on Saturday for a get-together with some other pilots that retired from United at one of the larger hotels in Washington. Had I known the traffic problems that I would run into, I would have went down Friday night and stayed over the two nights. Traffic was horrible. Way worse than New York City on a Monday morning or LA anytime.
Anti-Gun Rallies
- Thread starter Sunny
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ClassicRockr
Well-known Member
Exactly what we did!
Yes, they have a right to carry/show signs, for whatever thatās going to do.
squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
I have to wonder how you define an assault type weapon. That seems to be a mighty slippery slope. For instance. Which of these rifles should be banned? Trick question, because both are semi automatic and hold 17 to 18 rounds. The only difference is the color and shape.
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squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
As a follow up''' govt' says there are approx. 300 million guns in the USA. now un-scientifically, I checked around my small town and found a ratio of roughly 10 unregistered guns to every 4 that are registered. Do the math, I would say that equates to an awful lot of guns. Therefore my question would be... how do you roundup all those weapons that exist in the USA? Do you send out brown shirts to take them by force? Pass a law that say's "turn em in or else" Also, how do you stop the fact that a gun is man made item and can be built by anyone who so desires. I would have to say time would be better spent to find out why nobody did their job rather than try to make this an NRA problem. While on that subject, can someone please name an NRA member who has gone ballistic and committed a mass shooting. Don't think you can.
What little I could stomach of the "protest march" chilled me when I listened to children saying the constitution is an out dated document that should be discarded. That alone should frighten every law abiding citizen just to think that young ones are being brainwashed into this kind of thinking.
What little I could stomach of the "protest march" chilled me when I listened to children saying the constitution is an out dated document that should be discarded. That alone should frighten every law abiding citizen just to think that young ones are being brainwashed into this kind of thinking.
Don M.
SF VIP
- Location
- central Missouri
These students managed to hold dozens of rallies, all over the nation, involving huge numbers of supporters....Without allowing their protests to deteriorate into rioting, looting, and burning. That's a far cry from the "protests" we have seen in recent years, involving criticism of the police....which are quickly taken over by inner city thugs whose purpose seems to be to create chaos.
It is encouraging to see that there are still people in this country who understand, and honor, the right of peaceful protest. They may actually get something positive done...as opposed to the rioters who only harden peoples attitudes against their "Cause".
It is encouraging to see that there are still people in this country who understand, and honor, the right of peaceful protest. They may actually get something positive done...as opposed to the rioters who only harden peoples attitudes against their "Cause".
SifuPhil
R.I.P. With Us In Spirit Only
- Location
- Pennsylvania, USA
Timothy McVeigh (although he went a little beyond just shooting).
squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
That's true... (sigh) now if we could only get them to clean up after a rally. Really guys and gals, you obviously carried these signs into the rally, what would it take to carry them out and dispose of properly?
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SifuPhil
R.I.P. With Us In Spirit Only
- Location
- Pennsylvania, USA
That does it. I'm going to plan a protest against the garbage the protestor's left behind. 
squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
Yes, but how does that tie into banning assault type weapons? And, was there a huge outcry to ban fertilizer and rental trucks, and blame Hertz or Monsanto ?
ClassicRockr
Well-known Member
Top one isn't a "military" type one. Anyone would say the bottom one is a "military" type one........at least those that have been in the military or seen them shoot at a range.
SifuPhil
R.I.P. With Us In Spirit Only
- Location
- Pennsylvania, USA
I see your point. But then, there were not numerous explosions in the course of a few weeks, either.
squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
I'm with you, but, I just don't have a definitive answer to fix the gun mess, and I'm always Leary of knee jerk reactions to problems
SifuPhil
R.I.P. With Us In Spirit Only
- Location
- Pennsylvania, USA
Understood.
And somehow I don't think that a total ban like in the UK or Australia would work here. The culture is too entrenched.
I think it might take several small fixes instead of one big one.
I have 2 problems with the 'rallies'.
Taking gun advice from victims is like taking financial planning advice from people on welfare. They have personal insight, but they don't have a viable solution because they don't see the whole picture.
These kids think it's OK to break the rules and walk out of school, but think everyone else will obey the rules they're proposing.
HipG
Taking gun advice from victims is like taking financial planning advice from people on welfare. They have personal insight, but they don't have a viable solution because they don't see the whole picture.
These kids think it's OK to break the rules and walk out of school, but think everyone else will obey the rules they're proposing.
HipG
Camper6
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- Northwestern Ontario Canada
Well it doesn't take much to figure out that something has to be done and the status quo can't continue victim or no victim.
It's beyond the point of reasonableness.
squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
Without sounding holier than tho, or stepping on toes, I'd love to hear everybody's solution to this problem. Lot's of people say something has to be done (myself included) but, I myself don't have an answer that could become a practical working solution.
Solution no. 1: Stop allowing political campaigns to be financed by organizations such as the NRA. Put strict limits on the amount of contributions allowed; only that way will elected politicans be out of the pocket of the NRA.
That would not remove the guns already out there, but it's a start.
That would not remove the guns already out there, but it's a start.
Robusta
Member
- Location
- upstate New York
"such as the NRA". So what organizations would be OK funding political campaigns? How about overturning Citizens United, and disallowing any funding of any campaign, except by a living breathing registered voting person. Corporations are not people.
squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
Sunny, Here's what my wife just asked me. How are you and yours going to take our guns. (estimates now say over 3 billion guns in the US) ??? How????
Also, what dictator gets to decide who can contribute to a campaign and who can't. Reminder... this is a Republic, not a democracy.
Also, what dictator gets to decide who can contribute to a campaign and who can't. Reminder... this is a Republic, not a democracy.
SifuPhil
R.I.P. With Us In Spirit Only
- Location
- Pennsylvania, USA
It's technically a Democratic Republic.
... oops ... political talk ... bad Phil ... baaad ...
squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
Thanks SifuPhil. almost went back to correct, but I was worried this might be getting too political
almost went back to correct, but I was worried this might be getting too political
Whose estimates are those? The last count that I saw was a total of about 350-400 million, which include somewhere in the neighborhood of 130 million handguns, 125 million rifles and 95 million shotguns. It's really difficult to come up with an exact or even an "in the neighborhood" estimate because the major gun manufacturers do not have to report their total number of guns that they manufacture on a yearly basis.
OK, you have succeeded at confusing me. Maybe I missed a post somewhere, but I have no idea what "one" is supposed to mean in your post.
We hear a lot about banning assault type weapons and the AR-15 is mentioned most frequently. Personally, I think that the AR-15 is a great weapon and I really enjoy shooting it. And, BTW, the AR-15 is considered to be the equivalent of the military's M-16. The last number that I saw on this weapon was about 2 million are now in the hands of Americans with more being sold daily. But, again, we cannot put an exact number on it because the top three gun manufacturers do not report their numbers of sold weapons.
squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
- Location
- Arkansas, and also Florida
ClassicRockr
Well-known Member
Yes, the top picture looks like a typical rifle. The bottom picture looks like an Army weapon.