Where the Heck is It ???

I'm thinking that, whatever happened, they might just have to give this one to Neptune.

... unless of course the conspiracy theorists have their way and they discover that the plane actually turned off its transponder and flew to Australia or some such place, and all the air traffic controllers and families were in on it ... :rolleyes:
 

Justme said:
This story gets stranger and stranger. It is possible, I suppose, that the plane didn't crash but landed somewhere.
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That thought occurred to me early on. Seems like there are a lot of places that plane may have gone down, possibly even been able to land. Still seems if they were being held though, someone would have been making some demands by now. I don't know, such a strange world, half the time, seems we get about half the truth.
 
Interesting story. I've wondered, as critical as the black boxes are to what happened, and the fact they generate a signal for some period of time to broadcast their location, why there hasn't been an improvement in that technology, so that rescue operations don't have to be practically right on top of the thing to locate it. Surely our signaling technology is better than this now, isn't it?
 

SifuPhil said:
I'm thinking that, whatever happened, they might just have to give this one to Neptune.

... unless of course the conspiracy theorists have their way and they discover that the plane actually turned off its transponder and flew to Australia or some such place, and all the air traffic controllers and families were in on it ... :rolleyes:
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Logical explanation Phil. With the transponder OFF, nobody can tell where it is. They could be ANYWHERE and not crashed at all.
 
I think that is all about who is distributing the funds where. Just like priorities in a house-hold, what gets payed first or what do we invest in first. I've never understood spending money on going to other planets when we can't even manage this one, and there's still no cure for cancer, or now aids. Mystery to me.
 
Just sayin said:
Stolen passports - Muslim - aircraft - no time to even send out a mayday message, certainly sends warning signs to me.
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the only thing about the terrorist thing that doesn't jive to me is that those guys usually LOVE taking credit for this stuff, maybe even if they didn't do something, but no one has yet have they? I don't get any news so I am checking in with what those watching TV news are posting.
 
Someone said somewhere that was a regular thing, I mean Muslims trying to get away from somewhere, and having to get fake passports, kind of like people trying to escape Cuba?? I don't know, I'm just thinking I read something to that effect. I mean one thing I don't want to get into is because someone is of a certain race, that doesn't make them like the terrorists. I mean, you could be on the right track, I'm not saying you are not, it's just that we don't have much to go on yet do we?
 
Flying at 30 thousand feet, and covering about 10 miles per minute... with communication cut off for whatever reason... even without an explosion, or without break up... the glide path to the ocean could be 100 or more miles... if there was any kind of turn, a crash site could be a thousand or more square miles. Just imagine trying to find a plane, in 1000+ square miles of ocean... and that's assuming the beacon is still working. Think of finding a specific grain of sand on a beach. Controlling a sea search grid, with many nations involved has to be a very difficult project.
As far as finding debris... That would necessarily require a crash. Think of the airliner that landed in the Hudson River... intact. If that had happened, and the plane then sank... no debris field.
Very mysterious.
 
Good point Tom. The glide path is important depending on the altitude. Even with low fuel the plane could be ANYWHERE despite what
SOME people are saying. There are a jillion islands in that area. If the episode is true, "they" may be laughing at us.
 
From USA Today:
Sometimes, planes are never found. In January 1979, a Varig Brazilian Airlines Boeing 707 took off from Narita International Airport near Tokyo, bound for Rio de Janeiro via Los Angeles. A half hour into the flight, roughly 200 miles from Japan over the Pacific Ocean, the big jet disappeared with its crew of six and a cargo of paintings from an exhibit in Japan. No trace of the plane, the crew or the paintings has ever been found.
Technology has come a long way since then, though. Thirty years later, in June 2009, an Air France Airbus A330 with 228 aboard took off from Rio on its way to Paris, flew into stormy weather over the Atlantic and disappeared. Floating wreckage was spotted from the air within two days, but the ocean where the plane disappeared is 13,000 deep, and it took 23 months and robot submarines to locate the plane's black boxes.
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One of the articles that I read stated that the family of one of the passengers was getting a response to his cell phone. They weren't actually getting a call from them, but apparently, when the family tried to call the passenger, his phone did ring, which would seem to mean that the phone was not blown up.
I am no expert on these thiings, but if my phone is turned off, or the battery is dead, then it goes right to voicemail when someone tries to call me.
So, the phone would have to be still turned on and active for it to actually ring.
It seems like if the plane went underwater, that it would ruin the phone also; however, my iPhone has a Lifeproof case on it that is supposed to protect it from water, or even being thrown across the room; so one of those might possibly still be allowing the phone to work (at least for a while) under water.

From the article,, it sounded like they were also tryingto track the GPS on his phone to locate the plane.
I only found this in one news report, so I don't know if they were able to try and track the phone or not.
It seems to me that unless the plane just suddenly exploded, that some people would have tried to call or text family. One of the theories is that it may have been hit by a NK missle, since they just missed hitting another plane near China last week.
I don't think that the two passengers with stolen passports intended to blow up the plane, since they both had booked flights from China on to Amsterdam, and then from there to Denmark and Germany.
If they intended to kill themselves by blowing up the plane, why pay for the extra flights ??
I think they were undoubtedly part of some undercover plan, but not to blow up the plane.
 
They might finally be getting wise and creating background stories ... I saw a comment on CNN about "Why would the terrorists pay the extra money to go on to all of those other locations?"

Seriously? A few hundred bucks is going to veto a terrorist op? Again, it would be a great cover story.
 
The longer this goes on the wilder the speculation will be. For sure there will be alien abduction plots.

What a terrible nightmare for the loved ones. That slim thread of golden hope dangling.:cry:
 
Gael said:
The longer this goes on the wilder the speculation will be. For sure there will be alien abduction plots.

What a terrible nightmare for the loved ones. That slim thread of golden hope dangling.:cry:
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That's got to be hell, not knowing where your loved ones are:( I have no idea which is worse, knowing or not knowing, it's never happened in my life with any loved one. I'm realizing once again, how big the world is, and the fact we can't find anything as big as a 777:(
 
Apparently, more than one of the cell phones is still ringing when called, so it is seeming more like the plane is not exploded, or maybe even, not in the ocean at all. Most phones will go straight to voicemail when inactivated, and only ring when they are still working.
In another interesting twist, Maylasian military reported the plane on their radar, an hour later, and at a lower altitude; so they think perhaps the transponders had been turned off, lending more credence to the hi-jacking theory. I couldn't get the link for the Reuters story, but here is a copy of most of what they are now saying :

(Reuters) - The Malaysian military believes an airliner missing for almost four days with 239 people on board flew for more than an hour after vanishing from air traffic control screens, changing course and travelling west over the Strait of Malacca, a senior military source said.


Malaysian authorities have previously said flight MH370 disappeared about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for the Chinese capital Beijing.


At the time it was roughly midway between Malaysia's east coast town of Kota Bharu and the southern tip of Vietnam, flying at 35,000 ft (10,670 metres).


"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the military official, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.


The Strait of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping channels, runs along Malaysia's west coast.


Earlier on Tuesday, Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the Malaysia Airlines plane was last detected by military radar at 2:40 a.m. on Saturday, near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. It was flying at a height of about 9,000 metres (29,500 ft), he was quoted as saying.


"The last time the flight was detected close to Pulau Perak, in the Melaka Straits, at 2.40 a.m. by the control tower before the signal was lost," the paper quoted Rodzali as saying.


A non-military source familiar with the investigations said the report was being checked.


"This report is being investigated by the DCA (Department of Civil Aviation) and the search and rescue team," the source said. "There are a lot of such reports."


The time given by Rodzali was an hour and 10 minutes after the plane vanished from air traffic control screens over Igari waypoint, midway between Malaysia and Vietnam.


There was no word on what happened to the plane thereafter.


If the reports from the military are verified, it would mean the plane was able to maintain a cruising altitude and flew for about 500 km (350 miles) with its transponder and other tracking systems apparently switched off.
 
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