Life after death.... myth or fact

"Man has known he has a soul since before the beginning of recorded history?" Where did that idea even come from, Keesha? Of course "souls" were invented by the human mind. And quite a bit later than the beginning
of recorded history.

Did the cave men struggling to survive within incredible hardships have the time or inclination to bother rhapsodizing about "souls?" I don't think so.
 

All I can say is that if you're satisfied with what you believe or don't believe, then you wouldn't need to argue. The "believers" here are just stating their beliefs. The ones who don't believe seem to have some kind of problem and want to convince others. I don't see that with the believers of soul and an afterlife.
 
Olivia said:
All I can say is that if you're satisfied with what you believe or don't believe, then you wouldn't need to argue. The "believers" here are just stating their beliefs. The ones who don't believe seem to have some of problem and want to convince others. I don't see that with the believers of soul and an afterlife.
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I agree, great observation.
 

There was a time when a lot of people thought even inanimate objects; rocks, trees, mountains, streams had souls. Some still do. Does a chimpanzee have a soul? They share most of our DNA. By definition, a soul is immaterial, making proof impossible. But, the fact that they can't be proven, doesn't prove that they don't exist either. I'd say, believe whatever makes you feel good as long as you respect the beliefs of others.

Don
 
Grampa Don said:
There was a time when a lot of people thought even inanimate objects; rocks, trees, mountains, streams had souls. Some still do. Does a chimpanzee have a soul? They share most of our DNA. By definition, a soul is immaterial, making proof impossible. But, the fact that they can't be proven, doesn't prove that they don't exist either. I'd say, believe whatever makes you feel good as long as you respect the beliefs of others.



Don
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I agree but, I am still puzzled by those that BELIEVE, but proclaim their belief as fact......with of course no proof.
 
rgp said:
I agree but, I am still puzzled by those that BELIEVE, but proclaim their belief as fact......with of course no proof.
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Why does anyone have to prove anything to anyone? And that wasn't the question that started this thread. It was do you agree with life after death or not? It didn't say anything about why and/or prove it.

But I do agree that the "Who is right" question was going to be a disaster to begin with. That was really wrong to start that way. And was only going to turn into a debate.
 
Olivia said:
Why does anyone have to prove anything to anyone? And that wasn't the question that started this thread. It was do you agree with life after death or not? It didn't say anything about why and/or prove it.

But I do agree that the "Who is right" question was going to be a disaster to begin with. That was really wrong to start that way. And was only going to turn into a debate.
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Well actually the thread title is......."Life after death.... myth or fact"......which IMO implies the need for some sort of proof, if life after death is not considered myth.

 
I get it, C'est Moi. Don't worry about it, and I hope you get rid of that lousy headache soon. I do like to get into it sometimes, which then I later think, not a great idea. :p
 
I think that debating a topic is different than challenging a person's beliefs, especially when the topic has no verifiable answer.

As an example the concept of the continuing thread of life. I believe in that idea but for me, it refers to a person's children being the continuing thread of life and not the continuation of a person's individual soul. You can agree, have a different view or dismiss the idea altogether without challenging my opinion.
 
Aunt Bea said:
I think that debating a topic is different than challenging a person's beliefs, especially when the topic has no verifiable answer.

As an example the concept of the continuing thread of life. I believe in that idea but for me, it refers to a person's children being the continuing thread of life and not the continuation of a person's individual soul. You can agree, have a different view or dismiss the idea altogether without challenging my opinion.
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Im with you. You definitely have part of you living on in your children. DNA lives on.
 
To me we occupy the body for this particular trip-the body isn't actually us.
Thoughts are energy-energy is eternal.
I'm not saying we come back as us again, or that we even come back to this particular plane of existence.
A raindrop is a singular being. Alone,on a one-way trip. Then SPLAT-it's over.
BUT-the raindrop evaporates,is absorbed into the atmosphere-and in time,reforms & does that trip again.
NOT necessarily in the same place-maybe even this time into an ocean-but yet again, the process will re-occur.
Put the human consciousness into the place of that raindrop.
Instead of suddenly going splat, just run out of 'oof'.
The body goes into the ground-the driving energy/spirit/force [delete as required] goes back into the universal one-ness.
Repeat.
Yeah-that'll do. I reckon a lifetime as a 'me' is enough for ANYONE.
 
Yes-as it happens I have.
But no-I don't contribute to his theorem,sir.
I have my own theory of 'eternal life' being merely an energy-mass,rather akin to a 'black hole',at the centre of the universe.
We know it exists, we know it affects EVERYTHING,we know it's actually affecting us RIGHT NOW,as we speak...
...but nobody can explain it, how it works, what it actually consists of, etc.
I just don't CARE that I'm not immortal,Don.
I truly reckon a century of this sh1t is enough.
Adam lived [apparently] to be 930....and look how HIS stay here turned out!
Cain & Abel...ohhh,yes-a real success story, that one.
Seth,their third son....ever heard of him?
Jael,Cain & Abel's sister...not exactly in the limelight,don't'cha think?

PLUS,Eve apparently had 20 [TWENTY!!!] sets of twins!
Stone the crows-after set three,I'm surprised she didn't NAIL her knickers on!!!

No,Don - in all truth, my outlook on it is that energy changes it's properties,but can't be eradicated.
Ergo,synaptic energy merely floats back into the Big Beyond,there to await events.

...I know - not the usual way of looking at things. My apologies if I've inadvertently offended you,Don.
 
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The definitive answer to the OP's question cannot be ascertained, as there is no verifiable proof either way. It is a matter of faith and belief. I'm a Lutheran, and I believe in life after death. Can I prove it, no. But no one can scientifically prove the opposite, either.
 
I believe in life after death. Can I prove it, no. But no one can scientifically prove the opposite, either.
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That's probably true. But then, how can anybody "prove" that something doesn't exist? Let's say I am sure there is a six-headed purple people eater roaming around somewhere in the Himalayas. Can anyone prove that
it doesn't exist? The burden of proof is on the person who says it does.

Chic, lovely picture. Is it Monet?
 
The only reason to prove something is to convince someone else that it is true. If I believe that God is a chicken and I don't care what you think, I don't have to prove it. You are free to believe whatever you want, even purple people eaters.

Don
 
Sunny said:
"Man has known he has a soul since before the beginning of recorded history?" Where did that idea even come from, Keesha? Of course "souls" were invented by the human mind. And quite a bit later than the beginning
of recorded history.

Did the cave men struggling to survive within incredible hardships have the time or inclination to bother rhapsodizing about "souls?" I don't think so.
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Now as a bit of a "caveman" myself (or "den" man really, someone who used to build shelters in hidden places to hide away in), I may have the inside track on whatever a caveman might have thought.

It would be hard to argue, from the archaeological record alone, that cavemen and cavewomen were not interested in the afterlife. I doubt they dragged those massive trilithons miles and miles across Salisbury plain without a huge desire to connect themselves with something they believed in, and an incredible level of control and inspiration driving them all on.
 
yes there is life after death - we was all born/ or reincarnated /who's to say ?
our souls never die' and leaves our body time of death ' when our time is up its a nxt adventure -we meet our boss ' we convalesce'
then guided by heavens angels …….to our nxt level of the universe . never shut your mind down to dying -
 

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