Life after death.... myth or fact

Well, i have always had the notion that there has to be some purpose for everyone`s earthly existence, otherwise, what would be the point of it all. If the whole idea is to acquire a heightened level of spiritual wisdom, then, it has to be an on-going process..Just one life span is probably hardly long enough to attain the highest level. And to deny that there is a continuing thread, (of life...after a physical death), is to deny that there is such a thing as a soul. So, i`ll toss my cap in with the life after death camp.
 

Tommy said:
I am a Christian and I absolutely believe in eternal life. My belief is based on faith. I would never try to "sell" somebody on my beliefs, but I gladly share them with others who are interested in knowing.
Click to expand...
Agree with you.
 

terry123 said:
My daddy was not a church going man but he was a man of faith and once said that there were no atheists in fox holes. He said it was crazy how professed atheists he served with started asking God to help them when he was in a fox hole with them. I still remember waking up hearing him fight battles in the war. As a child I did not understand as back then PTSD was not a name we knew. My mother would be terrified sleeping with him. He would not talk about the war but as we looked at his pictures sometimes he would tell a funny story about some of the men but never anything else.
Click to expand...

Not arguing , just sharing......

My dad was just the opposite, he too was in WWII & Korea. But was a sound atheist and when ever someone made the atheist-foxhole statement....he always said Bull**it !

Don't know who's right,.....don't care.
 
treeguy64 said:
We'll all find out, sooner or later.
Click to expand...

No I don't believe that we will find out

If you die you are no longer alive but you still hang around as a dead body until you decompose into another form.
It's kind of crazy.

Billions of people have lived before and died and there isn't a trace of them left. Floating around as dust I guess.

The person that influenced my thinking the most was one of my bosses.

It stuck in my mind and it's always there.

"There's nothing".
 
Olivia said:
People say that a lot that belief in life after death is to make people feel comfortable. How?
Click to expand...
.


I think comfort comes in the form of having blind faith that there is a God & heaven. But I believe that is based on fear. I'd be willing to bet if they were asked to deny that blind faith they would be uncomfortable because they believe that a 3 &1/2 billion year old being is listening.


Religion is not something that has no right or wrong answer. I think whatever gets you thru the day with peace of mind is a right each individual has.
 
Knight said:
.


I think comfort comes in the form of having blind faith that there is a God & heaven. But I believe that is based on fear. I'd be willing to bet if they were asked to deny that blind faith they would be uncomfortable because they believe that a 3 &1/2 billion year old being is listening.


Religion is not something that has no right or wrong answer. I think whatever gets you thru the day with peace of mind is a right each individual has.
Click to expand...

Well, there you go. You have your own beliefs.
 
rgp said:
Not arguing , just sharing......

My dad was just the opposite, he too was in WWII & Korea. But was a sound atheist and when ever someone made the atheist-foxhole statement....he always said Bull**it !

Don't know who's right,.....don't care.
Click to expand...
There is no right or wrong, its an individual process. I don't question anyone else's beliefs. I know for me I have a soul and that it lives after the body is gone. You believe what you want. And my daddy's experience has nothing to do with yours. It was his. He lived it and your dad lived his.
 
This whole subject makes me unhappy. I've been afraid of death ever since I was old enough to learn I was going to die. What kind of omniscient being does this to his "children" or underlings"? Heck. I treat animals better than that and always have. I find no comfort in the interpretations offered by organized religion. So mostly I try to live, not think about death, and treat everyone and everything as kindly as I can. That's all. I'm not the preachy type despite being raised in the Catholic church.
 
Olivia said:
Well, there you go. You have your own beliefs.
Click to expand...
True but not blind faith.

My belief in death is death there is no more once life/being has ended stems from knowing there was a prehistoric age with tons of evolution taking place over millions of years.
 
terry123 said:
There is no right or wrong, its an individual process. I don't question anyone else's beliefs. I know for me I have a soul and that it lives after the body is gone. You believe what you want. And my daddy's experience has nothing to do with yours. It was his. He lived it and your dad lived his.
Click to expand...


I never said my dad's experience had anything to do with your dad's. I was just sharing his , like you shared that of your father's. And I will believe what I want, and I believe there is nothing after physical life.
 
quote_icon.png
Originally Posted by Olivia
Well, there you go. You have your own beliefs.



Knight

True but not blind faith.

My belief in death is death there is no more once life/being has ended stems from knowing there was a prehistoric age with tons of evolution taking place over millions of years.
Click to expand...

I wasn't questioning your beliefs about death. I was questioning your belief that you know why people believe as they do.
 
I've always believed life is the classroom for the soul, we are born seeking a lesson, when we have achieved this goal, we move on(via death)to our next lesson(life). We will continue upon this path until the ultimate goal has been achieved, the meaning of life, then we become one with the almighty.]
My belief, as all others, is purely theoretical (of course) , but I also believe, in life lies many many paths, one no more/ less legit than another; find your path and be true to it.
 
I believe in Life After Life. A place we go to wait till we decide to be reborn again. I believe I have communicated with loved ones there. I also believe at some point people are not reborn again and just go to somewhere beautiful and full of love. I don't know what exactly goes on there.
 
chic said:
This whole subject makes me unhappy. I've been afraid of death ever since I was old enough to learn I was going to die. What kind of omniscient being does this to his "children" or underlings"? Heck. I treat animals better than that and always have. I find no comfort in the interpretations offered by organized religion. So mostly I try to live, not think about death, and treat everyone and everything as kindly as I can. That's all. I'm not the preachy type despite being raised in the Catholic church.
Click to expand...

I liked your comments, and hope I'm not being too sarcastic by saying "I don't suppose dying makes too many people happy".

However, my grandfather used to say "there are worse things than dying" (meaning perhaps the awful lives some people live, though I'm not entirely sure what he meant?).

In my view, terrible as it is to contemplate death, "biology" makes it inevitable. Going along with it the process of growing old and if you're lucky watching children/grandchildren coming into the world refreshing it is a positive thing isn't it, but also essential as we old wise owls pass on our knowledge and experiences.

Thinking about my parents brings them to life to me, and the words of my first head teacher stick in my mind too, that "everything you do or say in your life reverberates across the world like a pebble thrown in a pool", and I've a strange feeling that is a kind of eternal life.
 
All my life, I thought "OK, if there is life after death, and we turn into energy, then why didn't anyone who died try to contact the living with all that energy????".
So, of course, I thought, "there can not be life after death because of that', and I became an atheist.
Then one day, I realized that I have moved many times in my life, from state to state, and as long as I was quiet, there was no problem. But the moment I opened my mouth, there was the IRS, with a bill.
Now I am starting to realize something....
 
And to deny that there is a continuing thread, (of life...after a physical death), is to deny that there is such a thing as a soul. So, i`ll toss my cap in with the life after death camp.
Click to expand...

Well, I do deny that there is such a thing as a "soul." What proof is there that such a thing exists? Just the fact that something was invented centuries ago, and has been used to scare people into compliance does not
mean it is true. As I've said before, if something has no proof other than the fact that people keep repeating it, I can't believe in it.

The term "continuing thread of life" is an interesting one. Now, that might have some truth to it. If our bodies eventually disintegrate into atoms which then become other forms of life (a plant, maybe?) then you could say that
there is "life after death," and we are continuing, although in a drastically different form.
 
I am not a religious person, but I am a spiritual one. And I think the question of life after death is about way more than one's religion or lack of, or their belief in a God or Higher Power.

I don't believe that I am simply, or only, my body. I believe that my body is a vessel, a convenience that makes it possible for you to recognize me.... "me" being the energy that powers this body I occupy. Because the body is comprised of matter, it will follow the course that all matter does...it will begin, survive for a while, begin to decay and then ultimately die. That is the cycle of all matter whether it's a human body or a piece of wood or a plant or anything else. The body will ultimately fail and die, but the energy that powers it doesn't.

I will continue to exist after my body ceases to live.
 
Sunny said:
A.N.Other forum member wrote:
"And to deny that there is a continuing thread, (of life...after a physical death), is to deny that there is such a thing as a soul. So, i`ll toss my cap in with the life after death camp."

Sunny wrote:
"Well, I do deny that there is such a thing as a "soul." What proof is there that such a thing exists? Just the fact that something was invented centuries ago, and has been used to scare people into compliance does not
mean it is true. As I've said before, if something has no proof other than the fact that people keep repeating it, I can't believe in it.

The term "continuing thread of life" is an interesting one. Now, that might have some truth to it. If our bodies eventually disintegrate into atoms which then become other forms of life (a plant, maybe?) then you could say that
there is "life after death," and we are continuing, although in a drastically different form."
Click to expand...

Would you be happy if I could suggest words for whatever myself and others might think of as our "souls"?

What if I were to say you have something "unique" about yourself, akin to what others might consider their souls? Maybe you have done many good things in your life, and are justly pleased or proud of that fact, and this maybe equates to whatever it is I feel about wanting to be good, for the good of myself, my soul, and the good of everyone else perhaps(?).

It may be a very wishy washy kind of ideas or concepts I'm trying to promote, but we are all emotional beings aren't we, so I could question what part such essentially irrational thoughts as emotions if the only thing you can believe in are proven facts?
 
Do you really want to exist forever? What kind of existence could be meaningful without end? Even the universe will someday turn to cold empty space.

Personally, I feel like extinction is OK. I've had my share of earthly experience and pleasures. There may be no heaven, but that would mean there is also no hell. I'm good with that.

In the end, it doesn't matter what you believe. Whatever is is. If something of me survives death, fine. If not, so be it for all of us.

Don
 
Sunny said:
Well, I do deny that there is such a thing as a "soul." What proof is there that such a thing exists? Just the fact that something was invented centuries ago, and has been used to scare people into compliance does not
mean it is true.
Click to expand...
Souls aren’t invented! They are an integral part of who we are and aren’t something that seen and observed , but rather something that’s ‘felt’ and observed. Stating that a soul is something merely created by religion is false.
Man has known he has a soul since the before the beginning of recorded history.
 
Keesha said:
Souls aren’t invented! They are an integral part of who we are and aren’t something that seen and observed , but rather something that’s ‘felt’ and observed. Stating that a soul is something merely created by religion is false.
Man has known he has a soul since the before the beginning of recorded history.
Click to expand...

The last sentence you proclaim as though it is fact. Where's the poof of that fact?

It's all belief, and of course that's great.....But why do folks insist on passing off their belief, as fact.
 

You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top