Life after death.... from my eyes

Pete

Pete

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I have not had any near death experiences so I cannot personally testify to what lies on the other side of this life based on actual experience and though I wish otherwise my faith is not so strong that I would happily face my mortality, so here I sit like millions of others vacillating back and forth between belief and skepticism.



Almost half the population of this earth says that nothing happens there is no afterlife we are merely a physical being no better than any other animal walking this earth. We live for a time and then we are no more is their philosophy....



but for those who insist on scientific evidence I would like to postulate the following.....


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….What if one day astronauts land on the moon or Mars and discover a functioning “bio-dome” one similar to the one in Arizona and when one stands at the control panel all the dials are set just right for human life. The oxygen ratio is perfect; the temperature is 70 degrees; the humidity is at 50%; there's a system for replenishing the air and radiation is at a rate not harmful to living beings. Looking closely you can see the dials have a huge range of possible settings and it is obvious if one were to adjust one or more of them a little bit the environment would go out of kilter and life would not be able to exist.



What conclusion would you come to if this occurred on a future space mission? Could it be that it just happened into existence? The obvious answer is someone took great care to match the settings to human life and it was not there by accident. Some intelligent being designed and prepared it to support humans and that is the analogy I carry over to our planet earth.



I do not believe that it could have happened just by luck that this one planet in the billions upon billions of planets in the universe had the perfect environment to nurture and sustain human life. If this belief sounds rational based on those facts then I think you must take the next logical step that only God could create that one in a billion planet ready for human life. You might now ask what does this have to do with life after death.... everything because it is a large part of the very foundation of the belief in God and therefore his teachings in the bible about heaven and hell.



Like I have said my faith at times weakens
not for lack of desire
but because I know to share in Gods glory in heaven
I must lead a life free from sin
and though rewarding
that is not an easy walk down life's road.
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Sorry, very silly stuff, to me. Actually, the way it's explained, above, is bass ackwards. Instead: Life evolved the way it did because natural selective forces were confined by the physical realities present on Earth. We are adapted to life on this planet because life evolved on this planet. The whole idea of intelligent design is laughable. If a higher power created us in his/her/its image, then that higher power needs to take it back to the drawing board, seeing how our species is predisposed to so many injuries and diseases precisely because of our "design."

As this is a reply to a poster I now remember, from his earlier posts, I will not be commenting further on this subject. Thanks.
 

I appreciate your analogy, Pete.

As a retired, college educated scientist I think I have a pretty good grasp of the sciences yet I find no conflict between science and my Christian beliefs. Comparing the two would be like comparing apples and fishing reels. My faith is in the all powerful Creator and in salvation by grace through Jesus Christ. Science is what it is, from our limited perspective, and trying to justify my beliefs based on scientific argument would be nonsensical. My understanding of science is sound. My faith in God is firm.

I would only caution that, on a public forum such as this, there will be those who are not believers and who, understandably, feel challenged by those of us who are. These are good, sincere people and I urge you to accept their responses with true love, respect, kindness and understanding. To do otherwise serves no good purpose whatsoever.

JMHO
 
Tommy said:
I appreciate your analogy, Pete.

As a retired, college educated scientist I think I have a pretty good grasp of the sciences yet I find no conflict between science and my Christian beliefs. Comparing the two would be like comparing apples and fishing reels. My faith is in the all powerful Creator and in salvation by grace through Jesus Christ. Science is what it is, from our limited perspective, and trying to justify my beliefs based on scientific argument would be nonsensical. My understanding of science is sound. My faith in God is firm.

I would only caution that, on a public forum such as this, there will be those who are not believers and who, understandably, feel challenged by those of us who are. These are good, sincere people and I urge you to accept their responses with true love, respect, kindness and understanding. To do otherwise serves no good purpose whatsoever.

JMHO
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Sorry, but I don't believe anyone here feels "challenged" by you or your beliefs. JMHO
 
What I believe what Tommy meant by "challenged" is that because of what believers say about their faith, those who do not believe feel challenged to reply why they don't believe the same. I am fairly certain that is what he meant.

Is everybody happy yet?
 
I think I prefer to get on with enjoying my life rather than worrying about what happens after I'm dead. After all the millions of years before I was born don't trouble me , so why should the ones after I die trouble me any more?
 
I think it's good to take a little time to ponder the possibilities, exercise the mind.

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I tend to derive the greatest comfort and peace of mind that, giving the benefit of the doubt that there does exist an all powerful divine being commonly referred to as God, he should be regarded in the context of being a Creator, and a Scientist....and an Evolutionary Biologist, as well as quite a lot of other things. So, i ask...why SHOULDN`T the human soul continue after the physical death. After all, life is supposed to be a continuing thread, and, if there is no such thing as the soul, as some people seem to be fond of asserting, then, on what grounds do they arrive at that assertion..?
 
I do not believe that it could have happened just by luck that this one planet in the billions upon billions of planets in the universe had the perfect environment to nurture and sustain human life. I
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How do you know that is just this one planet, Pete? There was just an article in the paper that show that astronomers have been able to calculate the number of stars in the universe. It's something like an 8 followed by 84 zeroes. And that's just stars! The number of planets is probably much bigger.

So, the conclusion that human life can only exist on our one insignificant little planet is kind of astonishing. The probability would seem to be that there are multiple plants, perhaps in the millions, that could sustain human life, and some of them probably do.
 
I believe in a creator. I pray to God but don't preach or invite others to do so. I figure God will call them or He has and they are't ready.
I'm studying on us being fallen angels for past decade. It sure would make more sense about all the suffering going on since world began with humans on it. There is evidence in some books of Bible about this but still not sure. I don't judge anyone it is not my job.
 
Meagain, no argument with your belief in a creator; you believe what you believe. But where on earth did you get the idea that the world began with humans on it? Even the Bible tells us otherwise.
 
I think (though I could be wrong) that they mean "since humans appeared". Of course, there were many 'versions' of humanoid creatures before we arrived at Homo Sapiens (about 200,000 years ago). The world existed for a long, long time before that.
 
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