Another Ruby Ridge type of attack about to take place in Nevada.

Happyflowerlady

Happyflowerlady

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Most of us in America remember the attack on Randy Weaver and his family that took place near a small north Idaho town. His home was surrounded, and a government sharpshooter shot and killed Randy's wife as she stood holding their baby. Randy was represented in court by "The Buckskin Attorney", and eventually won, but at great personal loss to himself and his family.

Now, a rancher in Nevada is having his cattle confiscated by government officials over a dispute about the land where his cattle have grazed for years.
When he tried to video the roundup of his cattle, he was threatened by government officials with rifles pointed at him, and they set a dog on him and arrested him. His father tried to call and find out where he was taken, and was told to get off the phone or he would be arrested as well.

So, not only is the government now doing house to house searches with no warrants, they are now starting to confiscate the private property of citizens without due process, or a valid reason.

http://www.infowars.com/federal-snipers-train-guns-on-family-for-filming-cattle/
 
I don't like government takeovers like this, and it's funny how they can video us, but we can't video them. :mad: We often travel on BLM land and see many cattle grazing, I didn't even think that the owners had to pay for that. See those cattle in national forests also.
 
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Davey Jones said:
There's more to this story if you read the local newspaper.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/feds-start-rounding-bundy-s-cattle-northeastern-clark-county
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I did read the article posted in the local (media owned) newspaper, which certainly slants the whole story in favor of the government control, rather than the plight of a local farmer. Even though he has been in contact with news media (Fox News), they are not showing this in the news broadcasts at all, so it is another case of controlled media coverage.

Regardless of whether they think he owes money for using the open range for cattle; this is certainly NO reason to set up an armed compound and prepare to kill him and his family, like they did with Randy Weaver in Idaho.
this kind of thing should be settled legally, and not by attacking and threatening this farmer.

Here is what he says about the current situation, and it sure looks to me like it is shaping up just like the Ruby Ridge situation did. If this keeps up, another American patriot will end up losing his home, and probably, his life, as well.
(Gun control people... notice that it is the government, not the farmer; who is doing the threatening with heavily armed shooters surrounding this non-militant farmer.)

Just before the round-up began this weekend, Bundy said federal agents surrounded his 150-acre ranch. His son was arrested on Sunday in an incident involving the agents. “They’ve been bringing men in and equipment and setting up a compound,” Bundy told FoxNews.com Monday. “They got helicopters flying low. They got snipers around the ranch.

Our access to public lands has been blocked.” “We’re not pointing guns at anyone but we’re sure getting a lot of guns pointed at us.” – Carol Bundy, wife of Nevada rancher.

Bundy said he is worried BLM might try to turn the situation into another Waco or Ruby Ridge. “Yeah, there’s a little fear in me,” Bundy said. “They’re definitely set up to do that.”




HappyFlowerLady
 
The real issue, to me, is the fact that some field agent from a no name federal agency's SWAT team can tell a citizen where and when he can exercise constitutional rights. This is like the constitution free zone at our borders. The problem is that it extends so deep into the continent, thereby affecting large numbers of people.

http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2013/02/does-a-constitution-free-zone-really-exist-in-america/

How much more erosion of our rights are we willing to tolerate? From the link, "The DHS said that customs and immigration agents can “exercise long-standing constitutional and statutory authority permitting suspicionless and warrantless searches of merchandise at the border and its functional equivalent.”"
 
Another interesting development in this story.
One of the main reasons that the BLM does not want this rancher to graze his cattle on the BLM land is because of a desert tortoise that lives there. According to the rancher, the tortoises actually eat cattle "cow pies" as part of their food; so the cows are not endangering the tortoises at all, despite what the BLM asserts.
However, in an article that I was just reading today, the government has decided to stop caring for the tortoises, and in fact, are now going to KILL hundreds of the poor creatures...... Does this make any sense ??
They are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to set up a huge military compound on the cattle range to keep the cows out; but can't afford to feed the tortoises they are supposedly protecting.

http://www.kingsnake.com/blog/archi...ts-conservation-center-runs-out-of-money.html
 
So far, from what I have read, and seen on the youtube videos, the BLM is setting up a huge, expensive compound, and putting up barricades so that Rancher Bundy can't take care of his cattle.
They are running the cattle to exhaustion with helicopters (just like the BLM does with the wild horses), so that they can then be herded off in cattle trucks to be slaughtered somewhere.
The sheriff there has been criticized by most of the locals, and Bundy supporters seem to be coming in from all around.
Here is the link to their Ranch Blog, and it has the videos and pictures that they have been posting, along with the daily updates.

http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/
 
Thanks for the link. Now I have a better idea what is going on.

Fact Sheet on the BLM’s Management of Livestock Grazing

Grazing on Public Lands

The Bureau of Land Management, which administers about 245 million acres of public lands, manages livestock grazing on 155 million acres of those lands, as guided by Federal law. The terms and conditions for grazing on BLM-managed lands (such as stipulations on forage use and season of use) are set forth in the permits and leases issued by the Bureau to public land ranchers.

The BLM administers nearly 18,000 permits and leases held by ranchers who graze their livestock, mostly cattle and sheep, at least part of the year on more than 21,000 allotments under BLM management. Permits and leases generally cover a 10-year period and are renewable if the BLM determines that the terms and conditions of the expiring permit or lease are being met. The amount of grazing that takes place each year on BLM-managed lands can be affected by such factors as drought, wildfire, and market conditions.
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Is there a problem with the Bundy's permit/lease?
 
Yes. I have been reading more about this, and it seems neither side is helping the situation here. He let his lease run out, and now refuses to pay it, claiming it is public land, so he shouldn't have to pay it. The cattlemen's association are not backing him, and that in itself says a whole lot.
Also, there is an article that i haven't read yet that claims that he had more cows than he was supposed to have on that amount of acreage, and it said that the cattle were starving, and that is why the BLM stepped in.
So this is not what he is supposed to be doing; however, it is not right for them to set up an armed compound, and fly helicopters over them, and seem to be pushing the issue. If he doesn't relent, it does not look like it will end well at this point.


HappyFlowerLady
 
It always helps to get the picture from both sides.

I'm currently caught in the middle of warring members of staff at a child care centre, and we've had to employ an independent investigator to get to the bottom of the allegations flying in both directions. Both sides seem to be wearing blinkers.
 
Remembering what happened to Randy Weaver and his family, I would think that this man should be thinking more about what could happen to his family than not paying his land lease. If someone dies from his stand, wrong or right, will he then think it was worth it ??
These SWAT team sharpshooter will not back down, and they will shoot them or burn them out .


HappyFlowerLady
 
I feel bad for all the animals involved, wasn't following the story, horrible that he had the cattle starving. Good to see both sides for sure! Warrigal, I hope the children weren't being abused, hope the investigator gets to the truth.
 
No child abuse. Just bitchiness between members of staff and accusations of bullying and harassment flying in all directions.
It's all very juvenile IMO but like high school situations, it has become rather toxic.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I feel bad for all the animals involved, wasn't following the story, horrible that he had the cattle starving. Good to see both sides for sure! Warrigal, I hope the children weren't being abused, hope the investigator gets to the truth.
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This morning, it is finally being shown on Fox News. There are pictures of the cattle out there, eating, and relaxing by the stream. They all look very healthy, and not starving at all; so that is probably just another one of the stories being promoted by the BLM.
Just like they say that they are protecting the tortoise; yet another article says that now they have no more money to care for them, so the BLM is actually going to kill the tortoises.
Crazy ! I am just hoping this can be resolved with no one being shot or burned out like the Waco tragedy.
The BLM is also the one that uses helicopters to run down the wild horses, separating the mares from their foals, and running all of them to exhaustion in the process. I read this a while back, but will look for the article again. It is another one of those things that our money pays for the government to do.



HappyFlowerLady
 
SeaBreeze said:
Now they say it's all related to fracking leases? http://www.naturalnews.com/044670_BLM_lies_fracking_leases_Bundy_ranch.html
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Great find, SB, and this makes the whole thing make sense now !
I couldn't see why it dragged on all those years, but now was about to become an all-out war to get Bundy off of the land. Since they were already killing the tortoises, obviously that didn't have anything to do with any of it either.
With all the fracking going on, and the big time money involved in that, now it makes sense why they would go to all this just to get rid of one rancher and his cows.


HappyFlowerLady
 
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