10 Dead in Shooting at Oregon College.

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Just caught it on TV a second ago. How long are we going to accept this? Terrorism? Who needs Muslim extremists when you live in a country teeming with armed crazies?
 

Sadly one of my bumper stickers " Guns Nuts are Keeping Us from Stopping Nuts with Guns"...you know what somebody will say in all seriousness? That all college campuses need to have armed guards and metal detectors...oh and malls, movie theaters, churches. Then somebody else in all seriousness will say it's because not enough people have guns so they can't defend themselves. The only sane answer is to repeal the second amendment, and you know in our lifetime they'll never do it.
 
of course I feel bad for the dead and their families.. It happens far too often.... I'm hardly bothered any more.... because ya know what? Once our country decided that 20 dead kindergarteners was acceptable... I knew we lost the fight for gun control anyway... So shoot away... I just hope that no one I love is killed.
 
You know it's like my son just said, in other countries, France, the UK, when there is a shooting the whole nation gets into it. Charlie Hebdo and people across the country were going ape crap about this happening on French soil. This is Americka, a shooting or two a week somewhere...maybe it makes news briefly. Then you start to consider how the Yankees are doing...as a nation we've gotten numbed to it. Even if we haven't there's not too much we can do about it as individuals. The NRA has that much clout. It's just beyond reason. A close friend's nephew died at thirty because he went to work the wrong day. Just an accident, the robbers didn't know him. They caught both guys who will be appealing the rest of their lives. But that doesn't bring him back. Other countries are appalled by US gun culture. That means even for those of us would sooner carry a gun than set ourselves on fire...they still see us in some way responsible for the others.
 
I used to care VERY much... only to be called un-American.. and anti-2nd amendment... and lectured about inalienable rights and how only the criminals will have guns... and blah blah blah.... So now I just shake my head and forget about it.. What good will it do me to continue to be upset.. It is what it is.. and I only pray as I said, that my family or any of my dear friends never fall victim.
 
I'm rapidly approaching the same sort of attitude QS. You can get upset.......and then you hear about another situation....and another and finally one starts to feel like there's no point in getting upset. So sad that this happened to those families! Absolutely terrible and I feel so bad for them. Their hearts must be breaking :(.
 
Probably shot himself...twenty years old, like that animal that shot up the church. Children with guns and persecution issues. The one with the church was a LEGALLY owned weapon. That last several shootings have been legally owned guns.
They've proven that scientifically your brain isn't even fully developed at twenty.
But you can sign up for the service at 18
Legally buy a gun at between eighteen to twenty
But you can't legally buy an alcoholic beverage until you're twenty one because somebody is trying to protect you
Enough to make your brain explode.

But no we have to care. That's what the NRA and their supporters want. They want people to just give up and let them take over whichever hare-brained pols they can get to back them.

Oh and it's up to 13 dead.
 
I wonder how long it will take for the media to tell us who this 20 year old man is?
Also what was his motive in asking the students to stand and tell what religion they were?
I wonder what religion was to be shot and which weren't?
How long will it take for the media to give us this information?
 
fureverywhere said:
Probably shot himself...twenty years old, like that animal that shot up the church. Children with guns and persecution issues. The one with the church was a LEGALLY owned weapon. That last several shootings have been legally owned guns.
They've proven that scientifically your brain isn't even fully developed at twenty.
But you can sign up for the service at 18
Legally buy a gun at between eighteen to twenty
But you can't legally buy an alcoholic beverage until you're twenty one because somebody is trying to protect you
Enough to make your brain explode.

But no we have to care. That's what the NRA and their supporters want. They want people to just give up and let them take over whichever hare-brained pols they can get to back them.

Oh and it's up to 13 dead.
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Where can you not buy an alcoholic beverage in the US? Most places I have traveled through or lived in allow beer to be sold to 18 year old folks. Beer is an alcoholic beverage legally or it would not be controlled at all.
 
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3 1/15/2013 St. Louis, MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College
4 1/15/2013 Hazard, KY Hazard Community and Technical College College
5 1/16/2013 Chicago, IL Chicago State University College
6 1/22/2013 Houston, TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College
7 1/31/2013 Atlanta, GA Price Middle School K-12
8 2/1/2013 Atlanta, GA Morehouse College College
9 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce, FL Indian River St. College College
10 2/13/2013 San Leandro, CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11 2/27/2013 Atlanta, GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12 3/18/2013 Orlando, FL University of Central Florida College
13 3/21/2013 Southgate, MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14 4/12/2013 Christiansburg, VA New River Community College College
15 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City, NC Elizabeth City State University College
16 4/15/2013 Grambling, LA Grambling State University College
17 4/29/2013 Cincinnati, OH La Salle High School K-12
18 6/7/2013 Santa Monica,CA Santa Monica College College
19 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach, FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
20 8/15/2013 Clarksville, TN Northwest High School K-12
21 8/20/2013 Decatur, GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
22 8/22/2013 Memphis, TN Westside Elementary School K-12
23 8/23/2013 Sardis, MS North Panola High School K-12
24 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem, NC Carver High School K-12
25 9/21/2013 Savannah, GA Savannah State University College
26 9/28/2013 Gray, ME New Gloucester High School K-12
27 10/4/2013 Pine Hills, FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
28 10/15/2013 Austin, TX Lanier High School K-12
29 10/21/2013 Sparks, NV Sparks Middle School K-12
30 11/1/2013 Algona, IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
31 11/2/2013 Greensboro, NC North Carolina A&T State University College
32 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain, GA Stephenson High School K-12
33 11/21/2013 Rapid City, SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College
34 12/4/2013 Winter Garden, FL West Orange High School K-12
35 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County, CO Arapahoe High School K-12
36 12/19/2013 Fresno, CA Edison High School K-12
37 1/9/2014 Jackson, TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
38 1/14/2014 Roswell, NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
39 1/15/2014 Lancaster, PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
40 1/17/2014 Philadelphia, PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
41 1/20/2014 Chester, PA Widener University College
42 1/21/2014 West Lafayette, IN Purdue University College
43 1/24/2014 Orangeburg, SC South Carolina State University College
44 1/28/2014 Nashville, TN Tennessee State University College
45 1/28/2014 Grambling, LA Grambling State University College
46 1/31/2014 Phoenix, AZ Cesar Chavez High School K-12
47 1/31/2014 Des Moines, IA North High School K-12
48 2/7/2014 Bend, OR Bend High School K-12
49 2/10/2014 Salisbury, NC Salisbury High School K-12
50 2/11/2014 Lyndhurst, OH Brush High School K-12
51 2/12/2014 Jackson, TN Union University College
52 2/20/2014 Raytown, MO Raytown Success Academy K-12
53 3/2/2014 Westminster, MD McDaniel College College
54 3/7/2014 Tallulah, LA Madison High School K-12
55 3/8/2014 Oshkosh, WI University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh College
56 3/21/2014 Newark, DE University of Delaware College
57 3/30/2014 Savannah, GA Savannah State University College
58 4/3/2014 Kent, OH Kent State University College
59 4/11/2014 Detroit, MI East English Village Preparatory Academy K-12
60 4/16/2014 Tuscaloosa, AL Stillman College College
61 4/21/2014 Griffith, IN St. Mary Catholic School K-12
62 4/21/2014 Provo, UT Provo High School K-12
63 4/16/2014 Council Bluffs, IA Iowa Western Community College College
64 5/2/2014 Milwaukee, WI Marquette University College
65 5/3/2014 Everett, WA Horizon Elementary School K-12
66 5/4/2014 Augusta, GA Paine College College
67 5/5/2014 Augusta, GA Paine College College
68 5/8/2014 Georgetown, KY Georgetown College College
69 5/8/2014 Lawrenceville, GA Georgia Gwinnett College College
70 5/21/2014 Milwaukee, WI Clark Street School K-12
71 6/5/2014 Seattle, WA Seattle Pacific University College
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73 6/23/2014 Benton, MO Kelly High School K-12
74 6/27/2014 Miami, FL University of Miami College
75 8/13/2014 Fredrick, MD Heather Ridge High School K-12
76 8/14/2014 Newport News, VA Saunders Elementary K-12
77 9/2/2014 Pocatello, ID Idaho State University College
78 9/5/2014 Savannah, GA Savannah State University College
79 9/10/2014 Lake Mary, FL Greenwood Lakes Middle School K-12
80 9/11/2014 Taylorsville, UT Westbrook Elementary School K-12
81 9/24/2014 San Antonio, TX Joel C. Harris Academy K-12
82 9/27/2014 Nashville, TN Tennessee State University College
83 9/29/2014 Terre Haute, IN Indiana State University College
84 9/30/2014 Albermarle, NC Albermarle High School K-12
85 9/30/2014 Louisville, KY Fern Creek High School K-12
86 10/3/2014 Fairburn, GA Langston Hughes High School K-12
87 10/8/2014 Elizabeth City, NC Elizabeth City State University College
88 10/13/2014 Nashville, TN Tennessee State University College
89 10/18/2014 Langston, OK Langston University College
90 10/21/2014 Memphis, TN A. Maceo Walker Middle School K-12
91 10/24/2014 Marysville, WA Marysville-Pilchuck High School K-12
92 11/3/2014 Dover, DE Delaware State University College
93 11/20/2014 Tallahassee, FL Florida State University College
94 11/23/2014 Annapolis, MD St. John’s College College
95 12/5/2014 Claremore, OK Rogers State University College
96 12/16/2014 Pittsburgh, PA Sunnyside Elementary School K-12
97 12/17/2014 Waterville, ME Benton Elementary School K-12
98 1/15/2015 Milwaukee, WI Wisconsin Lutheran High School K-12
99 1/16/2015 Ocala, FL Vanguard High School K-12
100 1/20/2015 Mobile, AL Williamson High School K-12
101 1/23/2015 Hardeeville, SC Royal Live Oaks Academy K-12
102 1/26/2015 Roseville, MN Hand in Hand Christian Montessori School K-12
103 2/2/2015 Mankato, MN Minnesota State University College
104 2/4/2015 Frederick, MD Frederick High School K-12
105 2/5/2015 Columbia, SC University of South Carolina College
106 2/15/2015 Athens, GA University of Georgia College
107 2/15/2015 Little Rock, AR Lawson Elementary School K-12
108 2/15/2015 Merced, CA Tenaya Middle School K-12
109 2/23/2015 Daytona Beach, FL Bethune-Cookman University College
110 3/9/2015 Coon Rapids, MN Northwest Passage Alternative High School K-12
111 3/30/2015 Springfield, MA American International College College
112 4/2/2015 Beaver Falls, PA Community College of Beaver County College
113 4/2/2015 Jackson, TN Lane College College
114 4/4/2015 Everett, WA Everett Community College College
115 4/13/2015 Goldsboro, NC Wayne Community College College
116 4/17/2015 Seguin, TX Seguin High School K-12
117 4/19/2015 Charlotte, NC Johnson C. Smith University College
118 4/22/2015 Las Vegas, NV Ruthe Deskin Elementary School K-12
119 4/27/2015 Lacey, WA North Thurston High School K-12
120 5/4/2015 Cleveland, OH Willow Elementary School K-12
121 5/5/2015 Conyers, GA Conyers Middle School K-12
122 5/12/2015 Tempe, AZ Corona del Sol High School K-12
123 5/20/2015 Robinson, TX Robinson High School K-12
124 5/24/2015 Flint, MI Flint Southwestern Classical Academy K-12
125 5/27/2015 Everglades City, FL Everglades City School K-12
126 6/4/2015 Franklin, NC South Macon Elementary School K-12
127 6/23/2015 Fort Calhoun, NE Fort Calhoun Elementary School K-12
128 7/5/2015 Dallas, TX Coppell Middle School East K-12
129 7/24/2015 Converse, TX Elolf Elementary School K-12
130 7/27/2015 Gainesville, FL University of Florida – Gainesville College
131 8/8/2015 Wichita, KS Wichita State University College
132 8/8/2015 Paradise, TX Paradise High School K-12
133 8/23/2015 Richmond, TX William Velasquez Elementary K-12
134 8/25/2015 Augusta, GA Hornsby Elementary School K-12
135 8/27/2015 Savannah, GA Savannah State University College
136 9/3/2015 Sacramento, CA Sacramento City College College
137 9/11/2015 Lafayette, LA Northside High School K-12
138 9/14/2015 Cleveland, MS Delta State University College
139 9/22/2015 Statesville, NC Central Elementary School K-12
140 9/28/2015 Butte, MT Montana Tech of the University of Montana College
141 9/30/2015 Harrisburg, SD Harrisburg High School K-12
142 10/1/2015 Roseburg, OR Umpqua Community College College

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fureverywhere said:
Sadly one of my bumper stickers " Guns Nuts are Keeping Us from Stopping Nuts with Guns"...you know what somebody will say in all seriousness? That all college campuses need to have armed guards and metal detectors...oh and malls, movie theaters, churches. Then somebody else in all seriousness will say it's because not enough people have guns so they can't defend themselves. The only sane answer is to repeal the second amendment, and you know in our lifetime they'll never do it.
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IMO the second amendment is a total anachronism that is being used for commercial purposes by vested interests. It is an impediment to the pursuit of1 life, liberty and happiness for a lot of people. It is a form of national insanity to continue to cling to it as if it were holy writ.
 
Well, here is a chart showing different ways the states handle alcohol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_consumption_by_youth_in_the_United_States

Here is a report on Ohio laws and they excuse beer from the alcohol rules. Beer was in two levels of alcohol when I lived there - 3.2 and 7 by name. I don't know what that meant but the bottles were labeled such and the labels were red for 3.2 and blue for 7, or maybe it was the reverse in color. Been a long time now since I have lived there. Always drank beer till I was 21 and then changed to hard drinks. I don't drink anything for many years now, likely 30 years now.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4301

In the military they always seemed to have beer in the PX and a place to sit and have a can or two.

If states no longer allow beer to be sold till 21 then there have been a lot of new laws written in recent years. But from the charts I found and thing that Ohio does not appear to control low level beer, I think drinking at 18 is OK but not for the hard drinks.
 
Jackie22 said:
President Obama on TV now....lowering the boom.
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Yes... I am listening to him now... He is angry and frustrated at how often this happens...and how Congress is simply unwilling to do anything about it. He is completely and totally FED UP.... So are most of us.. Mr. President... but the Gun lobby has a strangle hold.
 
BobF said:
Well, here is a chart showing different ways the states handle alcohol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_consumption_by_youth_in_the_United_States

Here is a report on Ohio laws and they excuse beer from the alcohol rules. Beer was in two levels of alcohol when I lived there - 3.2 and 7 by name. I don't know what that meant but the bottles were labeled such and the labels were red for 3.2 and blue for 7, or maybe it was the reverse in color. Been a long time now since I have lived there. Always drank beer till I was 21 and then changed to hard drinks. I don't drink anything for many years now, likely 30 years now.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4301

In the military they always seemed to have beer in the PX and a place to sit and have a can or two.

If states no longer allow beer to be sold till 21 then there have been a lot of new laws written in recent years. But from the charts I found and thing that Ohio does not appear to control low level beer, I think drinking at 18 is OK but not for the hard drinks.
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Bob, you are following up a distraction. Alcohol abuse is a different issue entirely. It's main impact is road deaths and domestic violence.
Of course, add firearms to the mix and alcohol plus a gun becomes a very dangerous combination, but that is not really the issue here.
 
Warrigal said:
IMO the second amendment is a total anachronism that is being used for commercial purposes by vested interests. It is an impediment to the pursuit of1 life, liberty and happiness for a lot of people. It is a form of national insanity to continue to cling to it as if it were holy writ.
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Key words: National insanity, and its not limited to gun laws.
 
The mind boggles at the number of repeats.

President Barack Obama addressed the nation after the shooting, taking time to emphatically call for tougher gun laws.
This was the 15th time the president has addressed the nation after a massing shooting, according to CNN.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/3016...r-gun-control-in-wake-of-oregon-mass-shooting

Fifteen times! Is this what the next president has to look forward to?
Will any of the candidates have the courage to declare that they will continue to fight for sensible national legislation to reduce this carnage?
 

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