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Hard to imagine exactly how the female accomplice got away as the entire place was surrounded.
I think the woman accomplice was not present in the Jewish foodstore [though she was the day before when a policman was murdered.] So that explains it.I wondered how she could have got away.
I thought this was interesting:
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-...ic-thinking-is-antagonizing-the-entire-world/
Speaking before Al-Azhar and the Awqaf Ministry on New Year’s Day, 2015, and in connection to Prophet Muhammad’s upcoming birthday, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, a vocal supporter for a renewed vision of Islam, made what must be his most forceful and impassioned plea to date on the subject.
The relevant excerpt from Sisi’s speech follows (translation by Michele Antaki):
I am referring here to the religious clerics. We have to think hard about what we are facing—and I have, in fact, addressed this topic a couple of times before. It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma [Islamic world] to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!...........You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move… because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands.
Nice spirit of violence demonstrated here. And considering your previous comment about Muslims being good for one thing only (I still won't repeat what you said) what makes you different from these terrorists?
Only to address what contributions Islam has given to the world, check out this site about Islamic art
http://collections.lacma.org/search/site/?front=1&f[0]=bm_field_has_image%3Atrue&f[1]=im_field_curatorial_area%3A45&gclid=CITdjau-isMCFUg6gQodPBoAuw
For mathematics
http://www.storyofmathematics.com/islamic.html
Just sayin'
these terrorists as you call them are born to kill. for 4000 years. kill or be killed. its in the blood. ever hear of honor killings?? tell me there deb what contributions have Muslims made to humanity?? the arts and sciences. anything??? if they show up at your home home with a sword then what?? your sheep. and sheep get slaughtered. not me. that's the diff.
I had edited my comment before I realized that you'd replied, just by way of explanation for the change you might notice if you went back to mine. But since you'd already addressed it, I thought I'd clarify a bit what my feeling is on this issue. For what it's worth rightlayful:
I think what bothers me, being honest here, is not that 'we' are protecting ourselves, but that instead of any sense of deep regret that we're forced to possibly take another persons life, you seem to relish the whole activity of fighting back, including killing other people. Just being honest kcvet.
Not every culture is at the same place at the same time, so getting busy with your comparison list has no meaning except to you. That's like saying that you are 'better' than your child by virtue of being further along in the process. The point is that we really only have control of ourselves so the question is, what kind of human being do you aim to be.
Sinking to the level of these terrorists with our own hatred improves absolutely nothing in the long run or in the big picture. It prolongs and deepens the misery. There is a fog of disrespect enveloping this world and filling geopolitics as well as 'personal politics', and it has thrived to the point that hatred has become the go-to attitude for far too many.
When we and our governments start respecting the autonomy of other nations and behave in the way we want to be treated, then peace has a chance. But while that relish for taking life is given full rein on the side that likes to think of themselves as the good guys, than we can expect this to go on ad infinitum. Somebody has to be the 'grown-up' and start acting with 'respect'.
Does anyone else wonder at all about the TIMING of these attacks ?
A day or two before the attacks happened, the breaking news was about the pedophile ring that included English Royalty, former President Clinton, and other prominent people .
All of a sudden, there is not just one, but several terrorist attacks in France, and the whole story about the pedophile and aristocracy is buried-----just plain GONE !
All we hear about for the rest of the week is about the attacks, and more attacks, and hostage-takers , happening in several places in France.
You would think that the organizations that work to help women be treated with respect, and the groups that support stopping child abuse would have just been all over the exploitation of these young girls. But not a word, not from anywhere.
Cover-up and distraction, anybody ? ?
Give the terrorists some credit for planning their own actions.
To do otherwise is to underestimate their capabilities.
Not exact but they are intelligent and learning from experience.yes. they have killing down to an exact science