11 killed by terrorists at satirical newspaper in Paris! called for

Hard to imagine exactly how the female accomplice got away as the entire place was surrounded.
 

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I could put a round right between those eyes and sleep like a baby
 

I think the woman accomplice was not present in the Jewish foodstore [though she was the day before when a policman was murdered.] So that explains it.I wondered how she could have got away.
 
I thought this was interesting:

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-...ic-thinking-is-antagonizing-the-entire-world/

Speaking before Al-Azhar and the Awqaf Ministry on New Year’s Day, 2015, and in connection to Prophet Muhammad’s upcoming birthday, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, a vocal supporter for a renewed vision of Islam, made what must be his most forceful and impassioned plea to date on the subject.




Sisi during his New Year’s Day speech before Al Azhar
Among other things, Sisi said that the “corpus of [Islamic] texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the years” are “antagonizing the entire world”; that it is not “possible that 1.6 billion people [reference to the world’s Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world’s inhabitants—that is 7 billion—so that they themselves may live”; and that Egypt (or the Islamic world in its entirety) “is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands.”


The relevant excerpt from Sisi’s speech follows (translation by Michele Antaki):


I am referring here to the religious clerics. We have to think hard about what we are facing—and I have, in fact, addressed this topic a couple of times before. It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma [Islamic world] to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!


That thinking—I am not saying “religion” but “thinking”—that corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the centuries, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. It’s antagonizing the entire world!


Is it possible that 1.6 billion people [Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world’s inhabitants—that is 7 billion—so that they themselves may live? Impossible!


I am saying these words here at Al Azhar, before this assembly of scholars and ulema—Allah Almighty be witness to your truth on Judgment Day concerning that which I’m talking about now.


All this that I am telling you, you cannot feel it if you remain trapped within this mindset. You need to step outside of yourselves to be able to observe it and reflect on it from a more enlightened perspective.


I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move… because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands.


Note: It is unclear if in the last instance of umma Sisi is referring to Egypt (“the nation”) or if he is using it in the pan-Islamic sense as he did initially to refer to the entire Islamic world
 
I think the woman accomplice was not present in the Jewish foodstore [though she was the day before when a policman was murdered.] So that explains it.I wondered how she could have got away.

I think you are much closer to the truth than you think because now there are reports this women was in Turkey at the time of the attacks. So who is the Jane Doe or is it a ruse by police to catch the perpetrator/terrorist.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/french-...eged-accomplice-1420904299?mod=fox_australian

In Syria? Again who was the women supposedly with the other dead terrorists.
 
I thought this was interesting:

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-...ic-thinking-is-antagonizing-the-entire-world/

Speaking before Al-Azhar and the Awqaf Ministry on New Year’s Day, 2015, and in connection to Prophet Muhammad’s upcoming birthday, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, a vocal supporter for a renewed vision of Islam, made what must be his most forceful and impassioned plea to date on the subject.






The relevant excerpt from Sisi’s speech follows (translation by Michele Antaki):


I am referring here to the religious clerics. We have to think hard about what we are facing—and I have, in fact, addressed this topic a couple of times before. It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma [Islamic world] to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!...........You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move… because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands.


If I'm understanding this, it would appear that the Egyptian President is challenging Muslim's and Clerics in particular, about the perception by the world that Muslims (in general) are out to kill everyone who doesn't share their beliefs . Is he saying that they need to get their act together and start actively teaching a new and better philosophy that doesn't include mass murder? I hope so, but you have to wonder, how long he will be on this side of the veil. New 'contract' coming up with his name on it?
 
I much prefer this kind of attitude:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/10/lassana-bathily_n_6448500.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada

Lassana Bathily, a Muslim employee at Paris Kosher grocery store Hyper Cacher, saved several people by hiding them in a walk-in freezer when a gunman laid siege to his workplace on Friday.


We are all from the same creator, we are all one and while some may go off the rails and do violence, let us be mindful that you can't kill your way to peace, unless you are willing to 'live alone'. This man was willing to risk his own life to save others.....that kind of willingness and love is the road of peace.
 
Nice spirit of violence demonstrated here. And considering your previous comment about Muslims being good for one thing only (I still won't repeat what you said) what makes you different from these terrorists?

these terrorists as you call them are born to kill. for 4000 years. kill or be killed. its in the blood. ever hear of honor killings?? tell me there deb what contributions have Muslims made to humanity?? the arts and sciences. anything??? if they show up at your home home with a sword then what?? your sheep. and sheep get slaughtered. not me. that's the diff.
 
Does anyone else wonder at all about the TIMING of these attacks ?
A day or two before the attacks happened, the breaking news was about the pedophile ring that included English Royalty, former President Clinton, and other prominent people .
All of a sudden, there is not just one, but several terrorist attacks in France, and the whole story about the pedophile and aristocracy is buried-----just plain GONE !
All we hear about for the rest of the week is about the attacks, and more attacks, and hostage-takers , happening in several places in France.
You would think that the organizations that work to help women be treated with respect, and the groups that support stopping child abuse would have just been all over the exploitation of these young girls. But not a word, not from anywhere.

Cover-up and distraction, anybody ? ?
 
Both sides to blame

free speech is one thing, but when your gettin paid for it, it's something else
regardless what label you put on it, piss people off that much they will come looking for you, talk about

calling these people Muslims is like calling Bonnie and Clyde, Southern Baptists
they were nothing but outlaws,


as a as a side note, the consious evolution of mankind is contained in "thousand and one arabian nights"
please read the works of sir Richard Burton about the Sufi (not Sifu) religious trials etc.
 
these terrorists as you call them are born to kill. for 4000 years. kill or be killed. its in the blood. ever hear of honor killings?? tell me there deb what contributions have Muslims made to humanity?? the arts and sciences. anything??? if they show up at your home home with a sword then what?? your sheep. and sheep get slaughtered. not me. that's the diff.



I had edited my comment before I realized that you'd replied, just by way of explanation for the change you might notice if you went back to mine. But since you'd already addressed it, I thought I'd clarify a bit what my feeling is on this issue. For what it's worth right:playful:

I think what bothers me, being honest here, is not that 'we' are protecting ourselves, but that instead of any sense of deep regret that we're forced to possibly take another persons life, you seem to relish the whole activity of fighting back, including killing other people. Just being honest kcvet.

Not every culture is at the same place at the same time, so getting busy with your comparison list has no meaning except to you. That's like saying that you are 'better' than your child by virtue of being further along in the process. The point is that we really only have control of ourselves so the question is, what kind of human being do you aim to be.

Sinking to the level of these terrorists with our own hatred improves absolutely nothing in the long run or in the big picture. It prolongs and deepens the misery. There is a fog of disrespect enveloping this world and filling geopolitics as well as 'personal politics', and it has thrived to the point that hatred has become the go-to attitude for far too many.

When we and our governments start respecting the autonomy of other nations and behave in the way we want to be treated, then peace has a chance. But while that relish for taking life is given full rein on the side that likes to think of themselves as the good guys, than we can expect this to go on ad infinitum. Somebody has to be the 'grown-up' and start acting with 'respect'.
 
I had edited my comment before I realized that you'd replied, just by way of explanation for the change you might notice if you went back to mine. But since you'd already addressed it, I thought I'd clarify a bit what my feeling is on this issue. For what it's worth right:playful:

I think what bothers me, being honest here, is not that 'we' are protecting ourselves, but that instead of any sense of deep regret that we're forced to possibly take another persons life, you seem to relish the whole activity of fighting back, including killing other people. Just being honest kcvet.

Not every culture is at the same place at the same time, so getting busy with your comparison list has no meaning except to you. That's like saying that you are 'better' than your child by virtue of being further along in the process. The point is that we really only have control of ourselves so the question is, what kind of human being do you aim to be.

Sinking to the level of these terrorists with our own hatred improves absolutely nothing in the long run or in the big picture. It prolongs and deepens the misery. There is a fog of disrespect enveloping this world and filling geopolitics as well as 'personal politics', and it has thrived to the point that hatred has become the go-to attitude for far too many.

When we and our governments start respecting the autonomy of other nations and behave in the way we want to be treated, then peace has a chance. But while that relish for taking life is given full rein on the side that likes to think of themselves as the good guys, than we can expect this to go on ad infinitum. Somebody has to be the 'grown-up' and start acting with 'respect'.

they were fighting wars before you and I were born. and they'll keep fighting them long after we're dead, buried and gone. it's man nature to kill his fellow man. it's in the blood. and you and I can't stop it.

let's let go by saying your the dove and im the hawk
 
Does anyone else wonder at all about the TIMING of these attacks ?
A day or two before the attacks happened, the breaking news was about the pedophile ring that included English Royalty, former President Clinton, and other prominent people .
All of a sudden, there is not just one, but several terrorist attacks in France, and the whole story about the pedophile and aristocracy is buried-----just plain GONE !
All we hear about for the rest of the week is about the attacks, and more attacks, and hostage-takers , happening in several places in France.
You would think that the organizations that work to help women be treated with respect, and the groups that support stopping child abuse would have just been all over the exploitation of these young girls. But not a word, not from anywhere.

Cover-up and distraction, anybody ? ?

I wonder as well. There are theories that involve Israel on the verge of being sent to a world court for war crimes. Others say it was time for a fund raiser to drum up dollars and support for a war against Islam. I wonder since they were on the US no fly list that if there was a legit undercover operation run amok or exploited for political reasons. I've heard theories that most "foiled" terrorist plots wouldn't even have proceeded as far as they did without undercover involvement. Were did the weapons including a RPG or rocket launcher come from? It's questions like that must be answered. Notice how the narrative changed as well including the wanted women being in Turkey while the attacks occurred again under surveillance of some kind.
 
That is a great video, SeaBreeze !
I have subscribed to Storm Clouds Gathering for a whiile now, and they do have some very interesting videos for someone who wants to understand more about what is really happening , and how people are being decieved. I also listen to John B. Wells Caravan to Midnight, and he has some informative guest speakers there as well.

It seems like all the shooting stories follow the same script, or a very similar one.
One person, or two people (brothers) who have never been heard of before seem to go crazy and start shooting people. Conveniently, they always leave their driver's license, Social Security card, or some other valid form of ID at the scene of the crime. The police tell the media who it is, and the media then has pictures of the suspects to put on the news as soon as the names are announced.
(Why is it we can't tell when these terrorists are going to attack; but as soon as they do, we suddenly know all about them, pictures, background, and the whole nine yards ?? )
All sorts of police/military style LE then swarm over the area, often with MRAP's, and conduct a house to house search.
Eventually, the shooter is found, but has usually managed to shoot himself in the head just as the police are closing in.
This video shows things that we are not usually shown, or they are on the news and then removed right away.

If you look at the picture taken in Pakistan of the recent school shooting, and all of the pictures of the children are put on a memorial wall, and the grieving parents are lighting candles in memory of their murdered children.
On the right side of that picture is some kind of a green (school?) emblem. The child pictured just on the left side of that green emblem is the EXACT same picture as the one used for little Noah Pozner, supposedly already killed at the Sandy Hook school shooting two years ago.
 
Don M.



Don M. is offline Senior Member
"This is what happens when there is a "Religion" that teaches "Death to All Infidels". At some point, us Infidels are going to have to stop being "Politically Correct"

SPOT ON !!!
 


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