2 Brides Who Left UK and US Being Denied Re-Entry and Citizenship Revoked

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Citizenship for the US ISIS bride, daughter of a diplomat is in question, since the father was no longer working as a diplomat when she was born. Appears there is a law that says if a child is born of diplomat they are not automatically US citizens.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Wednesday said “ISIS bride” Hoda Muthana is not a US citizen and will not be allowed back into America.


“Ms. Hoda Muthana is not a U.S. citizen and will not be admitted into the United States. She does not have any legal basis, no valid U.S. passport, no right to a passport, nor any visa to travel to the United States. We continue to strongly advise all U.S. citizens not to travel to Syria,” he said in a statement.


But a lawyer for Muthana — who grew up in Alabama and fled to Syria in 2014 to join ISIS, but is now in a refugee camp, begging to be allowed back into the United States — insisted to The Post that she is indeed a citizen.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/20/mike-pompeo-isis-bride-begging-to-return-to-us-is-not-a-citizen/


News › UK ISIS bride Shamima Begum to lose her UK citizenship, family told


ISIS bride Shamima Begum, who fled the UK to Syria aged 15, has been stripped of her British citizenship.


Home Secretary Sajid Javid ordered the move against the 19-year-old Londoner who wants to return to the UK with her newly-born child as the so-called caliphate crumbles.
She was part of a trio of girls from Bethnal Green Academy to travel to the war-torn nation to support the terror group in February 2015.


Her family's lawyer, Tasnime Akunjee, described them as "very disappointed" over the move and said they are "considering all legal avenues to challenge this decision".
The teen's family was told in a letter from the Home Office on Tuesday, according to ITV News.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/...p-revoked-by-british-government-a4071081.html
 

"....There are currently plans to change the law to make travelling to certain terror hotspots a criminal offence, but this would not apply retrospectively to Ms Begum.....".

IMHO, that is what is needed immediately.
 
I agree with barring them from returning. The one from Alabama had nothing but hate for this country and "tweeted" all kinds of hateful terrorist vitrol for the USA while she was marrying her THREE ISIS husbands. Buh-bye, traitor. You wanted it... and now you've got it.
 

Oh dear,- I didn't think of this as politics per se, like people who try to influence the way a country is governed or campaigning for office. but of war and refugee issues.

Sorry SB, please close the thread if inappropriate.
 
Sadly, young people sometimes make very poor decisions that negatively affect their entire lives. Actions have consequences. In this instance, they should no be allowed to return to the US/UK.
 
Can't speak for the UK, but the US is a big country, and I think we could find room for one young woman who made a tragic mistake and now regrets it. Seems like the Christian thing to do.
 
I'm not trying to be political but this is confusing to me.

A few days ago our President encouraged other countries to accept returning members of ISIS and try them for any crimes they may have committed. If this woman is a US citizen, as her birth certificate appears to suggest, it seems like that is what we should do.

I really don't have much sympathy or concern for her but I feel terrible for the child that is caught up in all of this.
 
To be returned for trial may not be exactly welcoming back with open arms, imo.

Whether or not the woman born in the US was ever actually a citizen is up in the air it seems, due to her father being here as a diplomat.

:shrug:
 
ray188 said:
No, not open arms but how about an open cell door?

What has this woman done to deserve "open arms"?
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I don't want my tax dollars going to support her in any way, not even incarceration. From the AP:

"In late 2014, shortly after moving to Syria, Muthana posted on Twitter a picture of four women who appeared to torch their Western passports, including an American one.


She went on to write vivid calls over social media to kill Americans, glorifying the extremist group that for a time ruled vast swathes of Syria and Iraq."
 
It's gone beyond pity, Christianity, forgiveness, etc. I think it's now a matter of Homeland Security.
 

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