2nd Healthcare worker tests positive for Ebola

There are also no direct flights to US from these countries; as far as I can find out...you are relying on people to admit where they started their journey.
 

Vivjen said:
There are also no direct flights to US from these countries; as far as I can find out...you are relying on people to admit where they started their journey.
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Most of these people will be black...and their passports will tell all...:)
 
Vivjen said:
There are also no direct flights to US from these countries; as far as I can find out...you are relying on people to admit where they started their journey.
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I'm surprised there is no way to track travelers starting journeys, Vivjen, possibly through passports etc. Something they could look into starting.
 

Apparently there is some difficulty with passenger lists from the airlines....leave that with me for now!
 
Wait for it......
passenger lists are allegedly confidential; and can only be released to law enforcement agencies under a court order.
i had a feeling it wasn't quite as easy as it appeared.

Then, of course, one has to obtain lists from different countries, to find the start of a journey.....sounds like a minefield to me....but I digress; sorry.
 
SifuPhil said:
I think they comprehend quite well. It's the political aspect that leads them to make the decisions they do. It wouldn't "look good" if we were to close our borders - after all, we're the land of "Give us your tired, your poor" ...


... and evidently your virus-laden third-worlders.

No, that would never do - our world rep would be irreparably damaged, and we couldn't have that. :apathy:
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Yeah, that "look good" will killya in all aspects of life.
 
Vivjen said:
Wait for it......
passenger lists are allegedly confidential; and can only be released to law enforcement agencies under a court order.
i had a feeling it wasn't quite as easy as it appeared.

Then, of course, one has to obtain lists from different countries, to find the start of a journey.....sounds like a minefield to me....but I digress; sorry.
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Things are never as simplistic as some would like to believe.... are they..
 
Now because this women decided to travel knowing the possible consequences including transmission of an extremely deadly disease the mushrooming and/or domino effect has started. 800 airline passengers are being notified to monitor themselves. That's 800 passengers that could spread it, not likely but these are perfect example of the numbers of people and/or how fast this thing will spread or grow.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-officials-monitor-12-people-contact-her.html
 
WhatInThe said:
Now because this women decided to travel knowing the possible consequences including transmission of an extremely deadly disease the mushrooming and/or domino effect has started. 800 airline passengers are being notified to monitor themselves. That's 800 passengers that could spread it, not likely but these are perfect example of the numbers of people and/or how fast this thing will spread or grow.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-officials-monitor-12-people-contact-her.html
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It will just take one...but apparently Ebola is more easily caught from a dead body...e.g. someone who has died from Ebola...

In Liberia, the grave diggers have very little protection..basically a pair of rubber gloves...an overall..and a face mask..which are used over and over again..

They haven't been paid for a week..and have gone on strike..after burying 53 bodies...
 
oakapple said:
At least, this situation will hurry along the eventual vaccine needed to prevent so many deaths in West African countries. Up to now, the money wasn't there for research because it was seen as an 'African' thing, now it could well be a world wide thing!Containment is everything at the moment, to stop the spread.
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That's hopefully true, sometimes it takes someone actually being killed, or dying of something to get people off their ass. It should be a world-problem, and would be nice to have some true brains running the show. Help in the right way etc. Instead of the border crisis being handled (or lack thereof), don't just keep bringing people onboard until "we all" sink, help build "them" a better boat.
 
Twixie said:
It will just take one...but apparently Ebola is more easily caught from a dead body...e.g. someone who has died from Ebola...

In Liberia, the grave diggers have very little protection..basically a pair of rubber gloves...an overall..and a face mask..which are used over and over again..

They haven't been paid for a week..and have gone on strike..after burying 53 bodies...
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That's because the viral load keeps increasing every day... it even keeps increasing for some time after the patient has died!... A dead ebola victim will have billions of viral particles in their fluids.
 
nwlady said:
That's hopefully true, sometimes it takes someone actually being killed, or dying of something to get people off their ass. It should be a world-problem, and would be nice to have some true brains running the show. Help in the right way etc. Instead of the border crisis being handled (or lack thereof), don't just keep bringing people onboard until "we all" sink, help build "them" a better boat.
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Don't forget though.. the CDC and research had it's funding cut substantially in the Sequestration program.
 
QuickSilver said:
That's because the viral load keeps increasing every day... it even keeps increasing for some time after the patient has died!... A dead ebola victim will have billions of viral particles in their fluids.
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Why ''fluids?''

I have seen quite a few dead people...I didn't see, or wasn't aware of any ''fluids''
 
She wasn't thinking is all I can fathom... She's young.. and the only thing on her mind was planning that wedding.. I know she is a nurse, but a very young one.
 
WhatInThe said:
Now because this women decided to travel knowing the possible consequences including transmission of an extremely deadly disease the mushrooming and/or domino effect has started. 800 airline passengers are being notified to monitor themselves. That's 800 passengers that could spread it, not likely but these are perfect example of the numbers of people and/or how fast this thing will spread or grow.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-officials-monitor-12-people-contact-her.html
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I did hear the guy from CDC say that "they should have gone in right away". In my pee-brain, I am thinking why anyone, after knowing the guy had Ebola, was allowed to leave the hospital even. Maybe someone here has already covered that. Especially a nurse that had come in contact with him is just allowed to leave and fly out? What did I miss, no doubt something;)
 
nwlady said:
I did hear the guy from CDC say that "they should have gone in right away". In my pee-brain, I am thinking why anyone, after knowing the guy had Ebola, was allowed to leave the hospital even. Maybe someone here has already covered that. Especially a nurse that had come in contact with him is just allowed to leave and fly out? What did I miss, no doubt something;)
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You're far too logical - you have to think like a hospital administrator or a safety manager. The former doesn't give a damn - the latter has no power to order anyone around.

I find it difficult to swallow that we have TSA doing full-body strip-searches on a daily basis, but determining where a passenger is coming from proves impossible.
 
SifuPhil said:
You're far too logical - you have to think like a hospital administrator or a safety manager. The former doesn't give a damn - the latter has no power to order anyone around.

I find it difficult to swallow that we have TSA doing full-body strip-searches on a daily basis, but determining where a passenger is coming from proves impossible.
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Excellent point, and this day and age, you think we'd have this nailed down, especially when we have things like 911 happening on American soil. I just don't see where those running the show have their priorities straight. And if people are lining their pockets (money is the One True God) are not smart enough to know they can't spend it if their dead?
 
nwlady said:
Excellent point, and this day and age, you think we'd have this nailed down, especially when we have things like 911 happening on American soil. I just don't see where those running the show have their priorities straight. And if people are lining their pockets (money is the One True God) are not smart enough to know they can't spend it if their dead?
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I think the love of money will always outpace the fear of death ...

... although when I lost $500 yesterday in my arbitrage hobby I was welcoming death ... :ghost:
 
SifuPhil said:
I think the love of money will always outpace the fear of death ...

... although when I lost $500 yesterday in my arbitrage hobby I was welcoming death ... :ghost:
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I'm sure you are right Phil. Funny, I was just thinking what good would it do me to have a million dollars to spend right now? I couldn't enjoy it because of my health, couldn't go on those tropical trips, can't do shit without your health:(
 

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