6 Year Old Killed In Road Rage Incident

Any rational person should understand why flipping a stranger off isn't a good idea. Key word "rational."

What sort of behavior was this lady modeling for her son? Because someone rudely and aggressively cut her off in traffic, she flips them off? No, bad example for her son. Better to remain calm and in control of yourself; you surely can't control anybody else. Could've been a good teaching opportunity for her to explain to her son how to deal with rude people and how important it is to stay in control.
 

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Aunt Marg said:
But where does it end, Remy?

Because you live in the USofA, you just allow everyone to walk on you?

Is that what the gun-culture in the USofA has created? Everyone living in fear? Afraid to say anything or stand up to anyone?
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I kind of do Aunt Marg. I'm no confrontational and in my upbringing I just took it all anyway.

I've also found the few times I do try to stick up for myself, people gaslight you, deny or retaliate in some way. I'd rather stay safe and get out of the situation. Even at work, I've essentially given up.

If someone cuts me off driving, I'm more glad I didn't get in an accident. I would honk if someone was about to back into me or something but not on a road with a near miss or something. If they are driving aggressively, I'm cautious of that person.
 

This is at least the 4th child I read about who was the victim of some....I can't use the term here...with a gun and no brains at all. I hope they find him or her and that person is put under the jail for the rest of his/her life! I feel sorry for this child's family. They are so cute at that age and there will always be a void because of this senseless killing.
 
The "gesture". What was it? Did she give them the finger? We live in a gun saturated shoot first and ask questions later society. You want to flash the finger? Go ahead but be prepared for what will happen. Adaptation is what animals do to different according to Darwin. It needs to apply to humans as well.
 
Sadly, it comes down to pride. Instead of only thinking about ourselves we should give each other a bit of grace.

What the world needs now is love, sweet love. Let it begin with me.
 
Yahoo article said:
The mother of the child said they were on the way to school in the carpool lane.
When she tried to switch lanes to exit, the white sedan with a man and woman inside cut her off, Valdivia said.
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Yahoo article said:
CHP Officer Florentino Olivera said the driver of the white sedan shot into the back of the mother's Chevy Cruze sedan.
The child was hit from behind when a round passed through the trunk of the vehicle, authorities said.
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The white car was behind the mother's car.
She apparently made the sign "and" cut them off, not the other way around.

Very sad for the 6 year old; he's lost his whole life.
I'm surprised there are so many shootings on the freeways. Scary stuff.
 
John cycling said:
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The white car was behind the mother's car.
She apparently made the sign "and" cut them off, not the other way around.

Very sad for the 6 year old; he's lost his whole life.
I'm surprised there are so many shootings on the freeways. Scary stuff.
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You reside in the hot spot, John, so take extra care when driving.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Another "good guy" with a gun I gather.

Three cheers for the second amendment.
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Gun violence epedemia should have been addressed decades ago, but since the U.S. Supreme Court incorporated the Second to apply to the states in 2010, goodbye yellow brick road. TOO late now. I'm not necessarily against the 2nd, but within 20 years, you can bet the national annual homicide rate will triple. Congress was so scared of the National Rifle Association it was pathetic.
 
Almost sounds like there was a mini duel just prior for the lane with attempts to cut in including being denied and/or overly aggressive.

Wasn't there a passenger in the killer's car. Maybe the passenger decided to show their displeasure.
 
WhatInThe said:
Almost sounds like there was a mini duel just prior for the lane with attempts to cut in including being denied and/or overly aggressive.

Wasn't there a passenger in the killer's car. Maybe the passenger decided to show their displeasure.
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Lucky the bullet did not hit/rupture the gas tank, an explosion like that could cause serious damage or death, on and off the freeway.
 
ohioboy said:
Gun violence epedemia should have been addressed decades ago, but since the U.S. Supreme Court incorporated the Second to apply to the states in 2010, goodbye yellow brick road. TOO late now. I'm not necessarily against the 2nd, but within 20 years, you can bet the national annual homicide rate will triple. Congress was so scared of the National Rifle Association it was pathetic.
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I figured as much, OhioBoy, and I believe every single word you say.
 
Yesterday, I witnessed another similar incident that could have also ended tragically.
My house is on a narrow street with no sidewalks & barely enough room for two lanes of traffic. The speed limit is 15 but many people go 40-50. Not a safe place for bicycles or pedestrians.
I was waiting to pull out of my driveway. I waved to a father & 3 young kids on bicycles as they went by. A big SUV came up behind them, speeding. The driver was trying to pass the bicycles, but he couldn't because cars were driving by in the oncoming lane.
When he did pass, he deliberately drove inches from the bicycles & started yelling at the father, who yelled back. The kids were terrified, their bicycles were wobbling & they could have easily fallen & been run over.
Obviously, the driver was at fault. BUT the father is really stupid. Any idiot could see that it was not a safe place for his kids, especially when there are bike paths 3 miles away that have no other vehicles on them.
 
win231 said:
Yesterday, I witnessed another similar incident that could have also ended tragically.
My house is on a narrow street with no sidewalks & barely enough room for two lanes of traffic. The speed limit is 15 but many people go 40-50. Not a safe place for bicycles or pedestrians.
I was waiting to pull out of my driveway. I waved to a father & 3 young kids on bicycles as they went by. A big SUV came up behind them, speeding. The driver was trying to pass the bicycles, but he couldn't because cars were driving by in the oncoming lane.
When he did pass, he deliberately drove inches from the bicycles & started yelling at the father, who yelled back. The kids were terrified, their bicycles were wobbling & they could have easily fallen & been run over.
Obviously, the driver was at fault. BUT the father is really stupid. Any idiot could see that it was not a safe place for his kids, especially when there are bike paths 3 miles away that have no other vehicles on them.
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Goodness gracious, Win, you seem so full of such bitterness as of late.

Sheesh... if you lived here I'd take you out to McDonalds and buy you a Happy Meal. I'd even tie on your little plastic McDonalds bib for you before you delved in. :giggle:

Unless there are signs up along the lane that you speak of that prohibit bicyclists from occupying, drivers of both vehicles and bicycles are responsible for themselves as well as one another.

Sure, maybe the lane (area) chosen wasn't ideal, but then again, maybe the father didn't want to walk bicycles to the relegated bike paths, or, or, or. Lots of possible scenarios attached to, but all-in-all, it's up to drivers to adhere to posted speeds.

Once again I present the question, because everyone packs heat in the USofA, does that mean everyone should bow to and accept blatant wrongdoings of others?

Three cheers to the father for yelling at the driver of the vehicle.

Where is the rush? Where is everyone going today where they need to drive breakneck speed and put other people's lives at risk?
 
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As quick and as often these things happen my guess it both the driver/passenger and the woman have done this before. The mom probably gestured more than once as has a person in the suspects car brandished a weapon on someone.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Goodness gracious, Win, you seem so full of such bitterness as of late.

Sheesh... if you lived here I'd take you out to McDonalds and buy you a Happy Meal. I'd even tie on your little plastic McDonalds bib for you before you delved in. :giggle:

Unless there are signs up along the lane that you speak of that prohibit bicyclists from occupying, drivers of both vehicles and bicycles are responsible for themselves as well as one another.

Sure, maybe the lane (area) chosen wasn't ideal, but then again, maybe the father didn't want to walk bicycles to the relegated bike paths, or, or, or. Lots of possible scenarios attached to, but all-in-all, it's up to drivers to adhere to posted speeds.

Once again I present the question, because everyone packs heat in the USofA, does that mean everyone should bow to and accept blatant wrongdoings of others?

Three cheers to the father for yelling at the driver of the vehicle.

Where is the rush? Where is everyone going today where they need to drive breakneck speed and put other people's lives at risk?
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"Everyone packs heat in the USA?" You must be living on a different planet.
No, there are no signs anywhere that prohibit bicyclists. Where bicyclists choose to ride is up to their common sense - which obviously isn't so common.
People who drive that way are not usually in a hurry; they're just tense & on edge due to the financial problems caused by the pandemic & they take their frustrations out on others - much like you do.
 
win231 said:
"Everyone packs heat in the USA?" You must be living on a different planet.
No, there are no signs anywhere that prohibit bicyclists. Where bicyclists choose to ride is up to their common sense - which obviously isn't so common.
People who drive that way are not usually in a hurry; they're just tense & on edge due to the financial problems caused by the pandemic & they take their frustrations out on others - much like you do.
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Blaming everything on the pandemic is nothing more than an adopted societal crutch.

Just one more avenue for people to make up excuses for themselves as well as others relative to their shortfalls.
 
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Apparently the victim was shot from behind with the bullet entering on the driver side rear/trunk killing the passenger. That's a tough shot for the driver driving at high speed with one hand. Also would've taken a lot of maccinations to get the gun which was probably already loaded/chambered. It's starting to look like the passenger should be THE suspect and not a witness.
 
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WhatInThe said:
Apparently the victim was shot from behind with the bullet entering on the driver side rear/trunk killing the passenger. That's a tough shot for the driver driving at high speed with one hand. Also would've taken a lot of maccinations to get the gun which was probably already loaded/chambered. It's starting to look the passenger should be a suspect and not a witness.
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My thinking, too.
 
Aunt Marg, you seem to have an awful lot of trouble understanding that the country I live in is called the USA. Not the USofA. You are the only person I have ever heard refer it to it that way. Do you think that's funny, or insulting, or what? Or do you just have trouble remembering names?
I've pointed this out before, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

I think the appropriate retaliation is to change the name of your country in a similar manner. So from now on, you live in the CANofADA. Hmmm, that opens up all sorts of possibilities for discussion and speculation!
 
Sunny said:
Aunt Marg, you seem to have an awful lot of trouble understanding that the country I live in is called the USA. Not the USofA. You are the only person I have ever heard refer it to it that way. Do you think that's funny, or insulting, or what? Or do you just have trouble remembering names?
I've pointed this out before, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

I think the appropriate retaliation is to change the name of your country in a similar manner. So from now on, you live in the CANofADA. Hmmm, that opens up all sorts of possibilities for discussion and speculation!
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USofA, seems to have become a real sore spot with you, Sunny.

Here is a topic of conversation where a members makes mention of... USofA, and the member lives in the States.
https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/i-am-stuck-in-1969.59986/page-3#post-1728989

Here is another where a member from the States seems to be in agreeance with your country being referred to as USofA.
https://www.seniorforums.com/thread...-no-longer-required.59332/page-2#post-1704451

Taken from Wiki: The United States of America (U.S.A. or USA), commonly known as the United States (U.S. or US) or America, is a country primarily located in North America.

Do you see the word "commonly", Sunny? Commonly known as?

Well how about commonly known as, the United States of America (USofA)? Does that work for you, Sunny?

If you prefer, uncommonly known as the USofA, minus any funny, insult, or anything else added to it.
 
I have carried a weapon outside my home for years and never once had the temptation to pull my gun from its holster to shoot or to intimidate someone.

I accidentally cut a driver off a few weeks ago and when we got to the light we ended up beside one another. I rolled my window down and apologized. She looked over at me and smiled and nodded her head. I thought to myself “Hooray for humanity.”
 
oldman said:
I have carried a weapon outside my home for years and never once had the temptation to pull my gun from its holster to shoot or to intimidate someone.

I accidentally cut a driver off a few weeks ago and when we got to the light we ended up beside one another. I rolled my window down and apologized. She looked over at me and smiled and nodded her head. I thought to myself “Hooray for humanity.”
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Gun haters are not intelligent enough to understand that the presence of a gun has nothing to do with a tendency for violence. It's the person who has the gun that determines its use.
If that was not true, you could hand the Pope a gun & expect him to start shooting people.
 

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