Permit To Carry A Gun No Longer Required

Sunny said:
Aunt Marg, first of all, our country is called the U.S. or the U.S.A. There is no USofA. I've never heard anyone else call it that. You are "Canada," not "CanofAda," right? 😅

Although I agree with much of what you say, I think you have a warped view of what life is like here in the U.S. We are not all walking around armed to the teeth. In fact, I don't know anyone who "packs," other than our local police. The media emphasis on the shootings can manage to give a false impression that we are living in the "wild west."

The last time we had a gun control demonstration in my neighborhood, there were crowds of people with signs, yelling and cheering. Most of the cars, buses, and trucks passing by honked in support.

In some parts of this country, people are apparently fonder of guns than in other parts. So it's at most, a regional thing. The horrific mass shootings are an aberration, not a part of normal life in this country.
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I do believe the media embellishes so much of what we see today, Sunny.

I find it refreshing to hear of the support in your country for change, that's definitely a positive, and I hope it continues to gain momentum and support.

Thank you kindly for weighing in on this.
 

In Texas in order to have a license to carry you must go thru a criminal background check. I was refused initially because of a charge of "Illegal Transport of Alcohol" when I was 17 or 18. The cop found beer I was taking to a party when I was under age. He wrote it that was to make it a lesser crime than under age possession. I had to get in touch with that police department and get a copy of the citation proving I was not transporting hundreds of gallons on moonshine in an 18 wheeler tanker truck. They also wanted a copy of a police report involving me in a bar room brawl when I was 30. So a license is good in a way to prevent felons from buying.
As far as carrying a gun I prefer to shoot back rather than saying "Please Don't Shoot Me!" People don't wake up in the morning and say to themselves, "Well I'm off to work (or the store) now even though I know I will be shot to death today."
 
Maryland: "The last time we had a gun control demonstration in my neighborhood, there were crowds of people with signs, yelling and cheering. Most of the cars, buses, and trucks passing by honked in support."

Texas: "As far as carrying a gun I prefer to shoot back rather than saying "Please Don't Shoot Me!"

And there you have it - the difference between Maryland and (at least parts of) Texas. Most people where I live don't walk around with a hair-trigger alarm system, connected from their brain to their trigger finger, ready to start shooting on a moment's notice. We don't feel that threatened by everyday life. I feel sorry for anyone who does.

Fmdog, I have never had to say, "Please don't shoot me." Have you?
 
Right this minute!
(CNN)Three people were pronounced dead at the scene of an active shooting incident in Austin, Texas, on Sunday, according to tweets from Austin-Travis County EMS.
There are no reports of other patients, the aency added.
Police said on Twitter they are on scene at the incident at Great Hills Trail and Rain Creek Parkway.
Austin police, fire and EMS all responded for three people suffering gunshot wounds, a tweet from the agency said.


The scene is still active and people are being asked to avoid the area, according to the tweet.
CNN has reached out to Austin police and fire for more information.
This is a developing story and will be updated.
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This makes me want to weep for my family still in the US.
 
Mr. Ed said:
Why is it important to carry firearms? Are you going to shoot somebody and why would you do that?
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I tell people that I know who want to conceal carry- if you do shoot someone you'll face a nightmare life of legal hurdles. If you're cleared after the criminal investigation, you can count on some relative of your shooting subject to sue you into the next millenium.

Let the cops play cops...that's what they get paid for.

I used to want to carry, but I decided to avoid all the hassle by NOT going to "stop n' rob" markets after midnight. ;) ;) ;)
 
Nathan said:
I tell people that I know who want to conceal carry- if you do shoot someone you'll face a nightmare life of legal hurdles. If you're cleared after the criminal investigation, you can count on some relative of your shooting subject to sue you into the next millenium.

Let the cops play cops...that's what they get paid for.

I used to want to carry, but I decided to avoid all the hassle by NOT going to "stop n' rob" markets after midnight. ;) ;) ;)
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I agree and have posted so but it beats being paralyzed or dead. Note, the mass shootings are never at Stop & Rob markets.
 
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Sunny said:
Maryland: "The last time we had a gun control demonstration in my neighborhood, there were crowds of people with signs, yelling and cheering. Most of the cars, buses, and trucks passing by honked in support."

Texas: "As far as carrying a gun I prefer to shoot back rather than saying "Please Don't Shoot Me!"

And there you have it - the difference between Maryland and (at least parts of) Texas. Most people where I live don't walk around with a hair-trigger alarm system, connected from their brain to their trigger finger, ready to start shooting on a moment's notice. We don't feel that threatened by everyday life. I feel sorry for anyone who does.

Fmdog, I have never had to say, "Please don't shoot me." Have you?
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To answer your question no, because the animal that kicked in my door 31 years ago met a 357 pointed at his head. Your characterization of gun carriers is typical of stupid people. How many people have moved to Maryland in the past 10, 20, 30, 40 years compared to Texas?
 
Well, according to the latest Quinnipiac University poll:

  • 74% support allowing the police or family member to petition a judge to take away guns from someone who may be at risk for violent behavior
  • 52% support a nationwide ban on the sale of assault weapons
  • 51% support nationwide ban on sale of high-capacity ammo magazines that hold more than 10 bullets
  • Just under half of Americans, 45%, feel that gun violence is a crisis in the United States. 41% think gun violence is a problem but not a crisis, while 12% think it's not a problem at all
https://abc13.com/mass-shooting-gun-violence-control-background-checks-for-buyers/10519062/
 
And according to this article, there is a danger linking mental illness to gun violence.

"However: there is no factual link between mental illness and violence against others. In fact, people with mental health disorders are more likely to be victims of a violent crime (up to 10 times more likely than the general population) than the perpetrators. A 2011 meta analysis found that to prevent one homicide of a person unknown to the perpetrator, 35,000 patients with schizophrenia judged to be at high risk of violence would need to be detained. Similarly, few U.S. mass shootings have been committed by people who were “mentally ill;” there is a much stronger correlation with other issues, like domestic violence. Finally, people with mental illness are much more likely to hurt themselves than others. Two-thirds of gun deaths in this country are suicides, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

https://time.com/5645747/gun-violence-mental-illness/
 
What if we tackled this a different way? What about getting rid of the reasons why people hate and want to kill each other in the first place? I see so much division and hatred here everyday, I've thought of leaving because of it.

That's why people with guns kill each other. Division. Take that away and there'd be less killing I believe.
 
Sunny said:
Aunt Marg, first of all, our country is called the U.S. or the U.S.A. There is no USofA. I've never heard anyone else call it that. You are "Canada," not "CanofAda," right.
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I've heard it called that many times before. Like the "Federal bureau of Investigation", abbreviated, they use F.B.I., not FB of I.

United States of America or US of A. Or it can be like you refer.
 
Sunny said:
Aunt Marg, first of all, our country is called the U.S. or the U.S.A. There is no USofA. I've never heard anyone else call it that. You are "Canada," not "CanofAda," right? 😅
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Seriously, Sunny? You’ve never heard anyone refer to your country as the United States of America? You may not have approved of the initials @Aunt Marg used, but she wasn’t being mean. Deliberate bastardization of the name of Canada is rude. IMO, you owe her and every other Canadian an apology.

I totally agree with the point you were making that mass murders are an aberration.
 
chic said:
What if we tackled this a different way? What about getting rid of the reasons why people hate and want to kill each other in the first place? I see so much division and hatred here everyday, I've thought of leaving because of it.

That's why people with guns kill each other. Division. Take that away and there'd be less killing I believe.
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You have hit the nail square on the head... and the media is a huge driving force behind it...
And I dont see it getting better before it gets worse.
 
Jules said:
Seriously, Sunny? You’ve never heard anyone refer to your country as the United States of America? You may not have approved of the initials @Aunt Marg used, but she wasn’t being mean. Deliberate bastardization of the name of Canada is rude. IMO, you owe her and every other Canadian an apology.

I totally agree with the point you were making that mass murders are an aberration.
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Oh, for heaven's sake, Jules, read my post again. Where did I say I've never heard anyone refer to this country as the United States of America? That's our name!

I said I never heard it referred to as the U.S. of A! Referring to the use of "of" when using the initials, not the full name.

The analogy with the FBI was right on the mark. It's either the Federal Bureau of Investigation (almost never used, except maybe on their letterhead), or the FBI. Not the F.B. of I.

My reference to Canada was obviously a joke. I presume you are also joking about my owing all Canadians an apology. Can we now put this earth-shattering matter to rest?
 
ohioboy said:
I've heard it called that many times before. Like the "Federal bureau of Investigation", abbreviated, they use F.B.I., not FB of I.

United States of America or US of A. Or it can be like you refer.
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Jules said:
Seriously, Sunny? You’ve never heard anyone refer to your country as the United States of America?
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I appreciate you weighing in on this, Ohio and Jules.

The "United States", the "USA", "America", "United States of America", the "US", the "US of A", or... the "USofA".

I have heard (and hear) so many variations. Seems everyone has their own way of referring to the United States.
 
Warrigal said:
One gun good... ???
Four guns... just insane... !!!

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Obviously a staged photo with a purpose.
Competitive shooters (like myself) know that he's wearing highly-customized & modified guns that are only suitable for competition, which makes them much-less reliable. Note the two magazines on the right side of his back. There is a reason they are painted a bright color - so they won't be used in a standard pistol because they will only function in those modified pistols with lighter springs.
But hey.....nice try at drama.
 
well, the headline is false.

You still need a permit to carry on your person until the senate passes the same law and it gets signed into law by the governor.
 
Sunny said:
While I'm usually on the other side of this, I can't really see that having, or not having, a license really makes the slightest bit of difference. There is an escalating number of mass shootings all over the country, no matter what their gun laws are. Some of the shooters do have legitimate licenses. A license doesn't make anybody sane.

I would go in the other direction. Make licenses irrelevant. But step up the laws about carrying guns, for anything but official reasons such as being on the job in law enforcement. (And they obviously need better training also!)

Assault rifles should be banned; anyone caught with one should get a mandatory heavy prison sentence, particularly anyone selling them to the public. Hunting rifles would probably have to be OK, and I don't think they are usually used in these mass shootings.

But in general, make it much harder to acquire and carry guns. The license part of it is almost a side issue.
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Serious question here.
Define "assault rifle." Do you really know what that term refers to or even how it was "coined?"

The media is great at generating new vocabulary and selling a "narrative."

Do you have any idea what it takes to buy a gun in various states? Any idea of the correlation between number of gun laws and their ability to "curb gun violence?"

Do you support requiring people to be licensed to publish their opinion or express their view in public? How about the right to practice their religion? Should that be licensed? (more killings have been committed "in the name of religion" than for any other reason) How about needing to pass a competency test and a history exam in order to vote? What other rights should we make people take a test and apply for a license in order to exercise?
 

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