79 People Dead, 303 Hospitalized in Mass. Breakthrough Cases: Report

This is one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations. If the pharmaceutical companies had held off on releasing their vaccines until several years of testing had gone by, there would be millions more people dead from Covid than there are now. And then, they would be blamed for that.

So, to hopefully put the brakes on a genuine worldwide emergency, they released the vaccine a bit sooner than they normally would for a minor medical problem. Of course, it was a little bit of a risk, but what choice did they have? Would it have been better to just wait years, watching people die of the disease?

Thankfully, the vaccine is extremely safe; out of the millions of doses given there have been few bad reactions, no fatalities (or practically none), and it is amazingly effective at preventing the disease. Millions of lives have been saved. Refusing to share in this medical miracle and infecting who knows how many other people, coming up with scary fictitious accusations about the vaccine (heart attacks, etc. although there is no evidence connecting them to the vaccine), demonizing Rockefeller, Fauci, and anyone else you feel like adding to your name-calling, and trying to get other people to ignore medical science, is behavior more appropriate to a 2-year-old having a tantrum.
 

Della said:
If Einstein were here today he would probably say, "If you can't put it into words and have to copy and paste pictures, you probably don't understand it at all."
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Or he might say, "How astute you are to put your feelings into pictures that clearly show how you feel."

I understood chic's meaning.
 
Becky1951 said:
Right. But there will be comments posted stating but the groundwork was already done on the mRNA vaccine!

Yes it was for other health conditions. Not for Covid!!!
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That happens ALL the time in pharmaceuticals. Drugs with a disease in mind don't work, but work for other diseases.
 
Pepper said:
That happens ALL the time in pharmaceuticals. Drugs with a disease in mind don't work, but work for other diseases.
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True when dealing with medications. I don't recall any former vaccines created for a specific virus being also used for a different virus. If I am wrong please post the site where that information is at.
 
Sunny said:
Refusing to share in this medical miracle and infecting who knows how many other people...
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It's dangerous to imply that unvaccinated people alone spread the disease. It's been known for months now that vaccinated people still contract Covid-19. Breakthrough cases are usually much less severe after vaccination, but any sick individual is infectious regardless of severity. This is particularly a concern in the senior population since failure to produce antibodies after vaccination is more prevalent as age increases, and an infected vaccinated senior may endanger those who did not produce antibodies.
 
Everyone's an expert since the birth of Google, etc. Why bother to believe actual scientists who've been studying and practicing for decades when we've all got our own sources to read about for a few hours.

All I know is this vaccine allowed NYC to re-open and new cases are clustered in Staten Island, the borough of the unvaccinated as well as the only conservative borough in NY. I can't pretend I know the definitive answer, I don't. I'm aware the situation can change dramatically and quickly. I'm most concerned about my small family.
 
Pepper said:
Everyone's an expert since the birth of Google, etc. Why bother to believe actual scientists who've been studying and practicing for decades when we've all got our own sources to read about for a few hours.
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If you're talking about my post re mRNA delivered therapeutics failing clinical trials prior to Covid-19 , that's from peer-reviewed literature published by actual scientists who've been studying and practicing for decades.
 
AnnieA said:
If you're talking about my post re mRNA delivered therapeutics failing clinical trials prior to Covid-19 , that's from peer-reviewed literature published by actual scientists who've been studying and practicing for decades.
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No. I meant it about ALL of US, not singling you out.
 
Another parent who put faith in medical misinformation, now experiencing anguished as her 13 year old daughter battles for her life in Arkansas. Very sad because it was preventable.

"But on July 1, Morris wrote on Facebook that her daughter, Caia Morris Cooper, had tested positive for Covid. Two days later, she updated her friends that her daughter had been admitted to Arkansas Children's Hospital in Little Rock and was on a ventilator.

"I am so scared right now and I feel so helpless," she posted.

Nearly two weeks later, Caia remained in the hospital, Morris said Friday, and was again intubated after being taken off a ventilator Thursday night."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids...ets-saying-no-vaccine-n1274227?soc_src=aolapp

Maybe the surgeon general's advisory on health misinformation will help buttress the naysayers.

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/surgeon-general-misinformation-advisory.pdf
 
Why should it surprise anyone that smallpox, measles etc. are making a comeback with how many walking across the border daily, from who knows where, carrying God knows what...
 
Giantsfan1954 said:
Why should it surprise anyone that smallpox, measles etc. are making a comeback with how many walking across the border daily, from who knows where, carrying God knows what...
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It would be quite surprising if smallpox made a comeback via illegal immigrants considering the last known case in the world was in the 1970s.
 
John cycling said:
None of those conditions were diseases caused by viruses. All that you posted in your second paragraph was fake news / i.e. marketing by rich and powerful Rockefeller Foundation controlled big pharma-petroleum propaganda.

The Rockefeller foundation took over the AMA in 1990, donated the land and created the United Nations on USofA soil so they could influence the rest of the world, and more recently formed the World Economic Forum to bring together the rich and powerful rulers from all over the world - which is what was the cause and is behind this current pandemic, not an imaginary virus that's never been proven to exist.

What you should not do is to inject well known poisons in your body!
Not even for the pretense of building up your immunity! From something that doesn't exist!

What??? Poisons don't build up anyone's immunity! Right! But poisons can KILL you.
And that's what is happening, from all the people who've been injected with them.
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And I've gone and misplaced my tinfoil hat . . . .
 
John cycling said:
What I believe is that Polio is a condition - not a disease - caused by exposure to environment pollutants containing toxic substances like lead and mercury, which includes pharma-petroleum drugs such as vaccinations - created with the intention to include them. Pharma has made big bucks while poisoning children and adults for decades with it's toxic vaccinations and now they are escalating the process.



I certainly hope not, but all the negative outcomes already occurring from the vaccinations are not accidental side effects.

Here's a brief history of polio. <--
18 things you probably didn't know about polio. <--
Rethinking and looking at the real causes of polio. <--
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I am old enough to remember when polio was a much feared disease among children and young adults. I had a classmate who had the disease. After we got the Salk vaccine and then later the Sabin oral one, the disease all but disappeared.

Believe what you will, but to assert that the vaccines did not help eradicate the disease is just a bit over the top, to say the least.
 
Butterfly said:
I am old enough to remember when polio was a much feared disease among children and young adults. I had a classmate who had the disease. After we got the Salk vaccine and then later the Sabin oral one, the disease all but disappeared.

Believe what you will, but to assert that the vaccines did not help eradicate the disease is just a bit over the top, to say the least.
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Too bad FDR did not get to try the vaccine.
 
win231 said:
No vaccine for the AIDS virus after 40 years of research
No vaccine for the common cold
No vaccine for cancer after 100 years of research
A virus appears and within a year, a vaccine is created and we're all expected to take it.
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You & I are at odds over many things ........ mostly police.

But here ........ I agree 100% with you.
 
ohioboy said:
Too bad FDR did not get to try the vaccine.
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He died in the 1940's, probably about 20 years before either polio vaccine came out. A large part of his life was ruined by that horrible disease. And a lot of his disability was kept hidden from the public, as being in a wheelchair and having braces on his legs was perceived as a weakness.

I remember how terrified everybody was during the polio epidemic in the late 40's. When those vaccines finally came out, they were hailed as miracles!
 
ohioboy said:
Too bad FDR did not get to try the vaccine.
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Since FDR got the polio condition by routinely swimming in lead contaminated water, an even more contaminated toxic injection would only have caused him to die much sooner than he did, because vaccines have continued to be a major cause of people dying from the polio condition.

In addition, as mentioned already several times on this forum, the polio condition has NOT gone away. Although lead in water pipes has now been abolished, due to vaccinations the same condition still is here, and now has 5 or 6 different names, all of them treated by the doctors of death, the same ones complicit in the cause.
 
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