A new COVID-19 mutation more contagious than Delta

Becky1951 said:
How can they know in 2 weeks?

This variant is new, a large number of vaccinated people would have to be infected with it and then be exposed to it to know if it works or not.
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What? Cause it spreads faster than Delta so they figure, I guess, at the rate of spread they will know in two weeks by seeing how many unvaccinated vs how many vaccinated have it. Very, very, scary situation.

Since it’s spreading in Southern Africa, those doctors will be able to give statistics. It was those doctors that warned the other countries; which is how the UK found it in two people there, and are now testing everyone that enters the country, and making everyone, who enters, quarantine for two weeks.

Cause that worked so well last time. 😳
 

Sunny said:
They are not permitting people to enter the US from those countries that are infected by the new variant, except for US citizens. (I guess they have to allow them to return home.)

But probably, that's how it will get into this country.
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It probably is already here, just hasn’t been “found” yet
 

Sylkkiss said:
C19, wherever it came from is surely a bringer of sorrow. Today my son-in-law had the memorial service for his parents. They died of C-19 on the same day a half hour apart, in two different hospitals. They were married more than 50 years.

Today I can't seem to laugh about any of it.
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I am so sorry for your family’s loss.
 
Sylkkiss said:
C19, wherever it came from is surely a bringer of sorrow. Today my son-in-law had the memorial service for his parents. They died of C-19 on the same day a half hour apart, in two different hospitals. They were married more than 50 years.

Today I can't seem to laugh about any of it.
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My deepest condolences, @Sylkkiss
 
Sunny said:
They are not permitting people to enter the US from those countries that are infected by the new variant, except for US citizens. (I guess they have to allow them to return home.)

But probably, that's how it will get into this country.
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Not sure the bolded is true. US banned only countries in Southern Africa but I believe flights are still allowed from Belgium, UK, Hong Kong, Israel and a few others that have infections.
 
Unfortunately, less developed continents like Africa don't have nearly enough access to the vaccine, which means they just continue to spread Covid from person to person, causing it to mutate. That is why it was first discovered in South Africa. As of the end of October, only 6% of Africa's population had been vaccinated. India has their own vaccine, ZyCoV-D, and over 50% have had one dose. Their Covid cases are down significantly.

Continents without access to the vaccine will continue to cause it to mutate and it will most decidedly spread to North America and Europe. There are already cases in the UK. I'm sure there are cases in the US, but they haven't been identified yet. I feel like it is mid-2020 all over again. :(
 
Lewkat said:
Well, it seems that according to a few South African doctors who have been treating this variant, it is nothing more than like a very bad cold. Very mild symptoms indeed and are perplexed at the reaction of the rest of the world over all this. Me too.
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I certainly hope that is the case and that this is all hype. I had the original Covid variant and it was much worse than a bad cold. Took me months just to get rid of the congestion.
 
Becky1951 said:
How can they know in 2 weeks?

This variant is new, a large number of vaccinated people would have to be infected with it and then be exposed to it to know if it works or not.
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Dr. Fauci & the CDC are in constant communication with the Covid virus & have warned it that it has 2 weeks to decide whether or not to allow the vaccine to work.
Just as 6 feet is the magic social distance. Covid understands that, which is why the virus only infects people who are 5 ft, 11.9 inches apart or less.
Some people actually believe that. :giggle:
 
Lewkat said:
Well, it seems that according to a few South African doctors who have been treating this variant, it is nothing more than like a very bad cold. Very mild symptoms indeed and are perplexed at the reaction of the rest of the world over all this. Me too.
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That's what I've heard also. Our leaders seem to be drunk on terrifying everyone. But I still suspect this was done because of the backlash against Austria for being the first Western European country to pass a law requiring all citizens to be vaxxed by Feb.1, 2022. That has created a storm. None of our leaders are speaking against it, but journalists sure are! If Austria can scare enough people into getting vaxxed before the deadline, it takes the pressure off them. It's all just too convenient.
 
Seems to me that many countries are gathering information on Omicron and exercising caution until more is known. A prudent course of action by my reckoning. Most public health specialists are paying attention, learning, gathering evidence, and investigating but not panicking.

The good news- so far there aren't any indications that Omicron is deadlier or more dangerous than other variants.
More good news - existing vaccines may be effective against it.
The bad news - so far it does appear to be more transmissible.

Sorry to disappoint those who relish the sport of Fauci-bashing, but he is decidedly not overreacting.

But Dr. Anthony Fauci told NBC Saturday that he would "not be surprised" if the Omicron variant was already in the US.
"We have not detected it yet, but when you have a virus that is showing this degree of transmissibility and you're having travel-related cases they've noted in other places already, when you have a virus like this, it almost invariably is going to go all over," Fauci said.

Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, noted that travel restrictions allow health experts to have additional time to study the variant and understand it in a more significant capacity -- including whether the current vaccines are effective against Omicron.

"The vaccines we use may very well be able to contain this. And then it won't be as serious as some people are surmising it might be. A lot of unknowns," Fauci told NBC. "You don't want people to panic, but you want to know we're doing everything we can to stay ahead of this."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/28/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html
 
win231 said:
Dr. Fauci & the CDC are in constant communication with the Covid virus & have warned it that it has 2 weeks to decide whether or not to allow the vaccine to work.
Just as 6 feet is the magic social distance. Covid understands that, which is why the virus only infects people who are 5 ft, 11.9 inches apart or less.
Some people actually believe that. :giggle:
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Well, you believe that and you are a person sooo, what is your point? Wait. Do you actually know someone that will let you get as close as 5 ft 11.9 inches? That would be remarkable for you 😉
 
Becky1951 said:
How can they know in 2 weeks?

This variant is new, a large number of vaccinated people would have to be infected with it and then be exposed to it to know if it works or not.
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They are doing lab tests to determine if the current vaccine works. News reports say two weeks. I'm not a scientist so I'm not going to challenge what they say. I figure the people doing the work know more than I do on the subject.
 
CarolfromTX said:
What I hear is that it’s very contagious but also quite mild. No need for hospitalization. I’ll take my chances. But y’all go ahead and panic.
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No one is panicking, hospitalization depends, as always, on the condition of the patient at the time they catch the virus, any virus. A regular cold can be life threatening if the wrong person catches one. I am sure you know this.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Cause it spreads faster than Delta
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They know this because it's so small that they've never been able to find it, just like all of the others. Therefore it must have supersonic jet propulsion because there's no other explanation even though none of it makes any sense, just like none of the others made any sense either. :unsure:

 

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