A new COVID-19 mutation more contagious than Delta

StarSong said:
The good news- so far there aren't any indications that Omicron is deadlier or more dangerous than other variants. ....The bad news - so far it does appear to be more transmissible.
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It's too early to say for sure but possibly it's milder. Best case scenario for naturally conferred immunity is that it is both more transmissible and mild.
 

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dseag2 said:
Unfortunately, less developed continents like Africa don't have nearly enough access to the vaccine, which means they just continue to spread Covid from person to person, causing it to mutate.
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That or another theory I've seen that it mutated when a person with comorbid HIV couldn't shake it off.

I've beat the drum so many times that it's a wonder that my sticks haven't snapped, but we should have been administering vaccines ...not to mention boosters... to people who have no naturally conferred immunity from prior infection. I was heartened to learn in the last few weeks that the Netherlands sensibly implemented that principle early on into their Covid passes, but many first world countries promoted Vaccinate!!!Everyone!!! fear and policies that led to vaccine resource hoarding. Follow the money on that one....right back to the greed of people who throw the most money at politicians and don't stand to profit from third world charity.

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Lewkat said:
Well, it seems that according to a few South African doctors who have been treating this variant, it is nothing more than like a very bad cold. Very mild symptoms indeed and are perplexed at the reaction of the rest of the world over all this. Me too.
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According to today's NY Times it's too early to draw conclusions:
"In the rush to understand the threat posed by the Omicron variant, the worrisome new version of the coronavirus, some experts are pointing hopefully to early signs that it may cause only mild illness, without some of the trademark symptoms of Covid.

But it is far too early to assume that the variant will not cause severe illness, too, warned Dr. Richard Lessells, who coordinates clinical and epidemiological data for the South African Covid Variant Research Consortium." The article goes on to explain why we can't conclude based on early cases that this variant is mild.
 

It's not panicking to take precautions in life and to be careful. No need to be hysterical, and no one on this forum displays that. I have not met one person who is panicked by this situation. Maybe they don't like it, and it's normal not to, but panic?
 
Shero said:
Good News !! Omicron is milder than Delta and no cases reported of a vaccinated person getting it.
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Well, not exactly, good news, maybe hopeful news @Shero

Dr Karin, on CNN, this morning says it’s TOO EARLY for severe cases to appear. He said we will know about severe cases in another two to three weeks. Meanwhile, the virus had been found in a lot more countries, including our neighbor Canada.

Pretty sure it must be here as well. He said it was very contagious. Said it was not worth a no fly policy against South Africa since it will spread anyway and it has. In several countries now.

He also said it probably can evade the vaccine. Said they won’t know anything much for another 2 to 3 weeks.
 
Furryanimal said:
Another over reaction.
England has joined the rest of the UK in reintroducing masks.
Absolutely pointless.
As ever better to seek out the non hysterical reactions to this.
like those from Chris Whitty and SAGE.
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Hubby and I haven't stopped wearing masks when out and about whether or not we are required to and we won't for the foreseeable future. IMO it is madness not to take simple precautions when unable to social distance.

Yesterday we both had a Covid swab test because we have dental appointments on Thursday. The dentist requested it and I don't blame him. He has no desire to catch Covid from his patients and take it home to his family. Living with Covid isn't about doing whatever you please without taking into consideration the people around you. It is about doing all you can to avoid becoming infectious and infecting others.

I am amazed that people who object to being vaccinated for whatever reason are also adamant that they will not wear a mask. Surely that is not a major assault on personal freedom. IMO it is just being bloody minded and stubborn. My mother would have described it as just "being agin the gov'ment".
 
Aneeda72 said:
Because there is a Covid spike and the beds might be needed, remember, elective surgery is just that, elective-it can wait.
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If? If? If cows learned to fly, we’d all have to carry umbrellas. Has there actually been a spike? No? But you get out your umbrella.

on a side note, my husband’s hip surgery was “elective.” Delayed during the first lockdown. So he got to live in excruciating pain for an extra three months. There‘s elective surgery, snd then there’s surgery that’s technically elective, but totally urgent.
 
CarolfromTX said:
If? If? If cows learned to fly, we’d all have to carry umbrellas. Has there actually been a spike? No? But you get out your umbrella.

on a side note, my husband’s hip surgery was “elective.” Delayed during the first lockdown. So he got to live in excruciating pain for an extra three months. There‘s elective surgery, snd then there’s surgery that’s technically elective, but totally urgent.
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Well, I have had two hip replacements and my last one was delayed more than 6 months, yes it hurt but it was not urgent. Heart valve replacement is urgent, hip replacement is not.

As for getting out my umbrella cause cows might learn to fly, cow pies are fairly thick and heavy, you should know this since you are in Texas; so the cow pies would break an umbrella.

Best you just stay indoors. @CarolfromTX You will be safe from Covid and falling cow pies 😂😂😂
 
Flaneuse said:
They are doing lab tests to determine if the current vaccine works. News reports say two weeks. I'm not a scientist so I'm not going to challenge what they say. I figure the people doing the work know more than I do on the subject.
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You Think??? How will they know in two weeks???? WOW!!! That should go in the Guinness Book of World records... just trying to understand 🤔
 
Hearing about this "new" variant doesn't even phase me any more. I know the media will keep up the non-ending coverage about it just like all the other variants. I really don't give a #hi* about it. I've done all I can to be supposedly safe and I know what to do around people so I'll just be tuning the news out for awhile until it dies down-the news dies down that is.
 

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