A white 75 year old white protestor attacked by the police knocked down, caught on video.

Aneeda72

Aneeda72

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What will the response be from the media, our leaders, and the protectors? Not much response so far, guess he should have been black.

Color really does not matter to the police, but it matters to some.
 

Just saw this - No excuse for the blow that sent that man to the hospital for head trauma. I believe the officer was removed from duty. What struck me most - the officer apparently didn't understand what the protests were about: police brutality!
 
Em in Ohio said:
Just saw this - No excuse for the blow that sent that man to the hospital for head trauma. I believe the officer was removed from duty. What struck me most - the officer apparently didn't understand what the protests were about: police brutality!
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Haven’t your heard, police brutality doesn’t happen to white people.
 

We all see different things.

I see a lone protester who appears to be attempting to provoke an incident with a police line that was trying to clear the area when the curfew went into effect. All people even protesters need to comply with laws and police orders.

I will agree that it looked like the force was greater than the threat.

IMO the majority of men and women on the police force just want to finish a shift and go home safely.

I think we should all stop looking for things to be outraged over and focus on the original incident that sparked these events.
 
There are now promises that police training will include the need to FIRST try to de-escalate the situation.

i.e. "Use your words!"

That's something taught to young children here. Now, we apparently need to teach it to adults.
 
Aunt Bea said:
We all see different things.

I see a lone protester who appears to be attempting to provoke an incident with a police line that was trying to clear the area when the curfew went into effect. All people even protesters need to comply with laws and police orders.

I will agree that it looked like the force was greater than the threat.

IMO the majority of men and women on the police force just want to finish a shift and go home safely.

I think we should all stop looking for things to be outraged over and focus on the original incident that sparked these events.
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Aren’t you outraged that there is no outrage?
 
Warrigal said:
He was bleeding from the back of the head and from his right ear. Those are not good signs.
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No they are not good signs. But very few people care, the story is not a money maker apparently. It’s all about the money, it’s not really about racism.
 
Let's see if I got this right. A white guy was beaten up, so that proves white cops aren't racists, just thugs. But they aren't thugs, because the white guy didn't comply with some curfew laws, so that's the legal basis to bash his face in. And since no black person was killed, the media didn't care. But it was the media, who stirred up things, because the cops were racists. And the reason the cops beat up people, was the rioters looting. But people were only forced to loot because of the actions of the racist thugs-the police. But the law abiding police only arrest criminals, who are all black, because whites don't commit crimes. But whites make up most of the media, who only focus on blacks criminals as the new orange. But cops proportionally arrested more blacks than whites, which proves cops are racists. But if one white guy gets beat up that proves white cops aren't racists, but the cops said his cell phone was a "gun", and killed him. But the media...................................................................................INFINITY.
 
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ok here's a story from the UK.. just to show that not only some American cops are bad, but some British too... but our justice system is heavily weighted in favour of the Police whenever they are at fault as you can see by this recent story...


The victim died several weeks after being attacked... ostensibly from 'unrelated injuries''... however this Off duty copper received no penalty at all, despite it all being caught on Dashcam... ( he resigned his post so he couldn't be sacked)..but faced no police prosecution

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8379525/Police-officer-punched-70-year-old-road-rage.html
 
Em in Ohio said:
Just saw this - No excuse for the blow that sent that man to the hospital for head trauma. I believe the officer was removed from duty. What struck me most - the officer apparently didn't understand what the protests were about: police brutality!
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I think police were quite sure what the protest was about. But some officers enjoy hurting someone so much, they just can't control themselves & will use any opportunity to do it. Brutality is the only way they can assert their manhood. They are no better than criminal thugs, except that their police uniform allows it.
 
win231 said:
I think police were quite sure what the protest was about. But some officers enjoy hurting someone so much, they just can't control themselves & will use any opportunity to do it. Brutality is the only way they can assert their manhood. They are no better than criminal thugs, except that their police uniform allows it.
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There, finally the correct word: Some.
 
CNN is covering it a lot so I'm seeing reasonable media coverage.

This is one recent incident that isn't yet another in a string of incidents with similar situations. I think the difference between the level of response to this and the level or response to the George Floyd and now Manuel Ellis is there is not perceived behavior towards many elderly people as opposed to perceived behavior towards many black people.

Based on the coverage I've seen (police officer or officers shoved the man causing him to fall backwards, hit his head on the sidewalk and then the entire group just walks on leaving him there) I hope the officers who shoved him are fired and the rest of the group faces repercussions for not taking action to assist their victim.

However as I said this is based on the coverage I've seen. It might not be the complete picture yet. There may have been other officers behind the group that moved in to help the man. The coverage also doesn't show what the officers were moving towards which might have affected their lack of focus on their victim.
 
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York condemned the actions of the officers in a statement late Thursday night.
“The incident in Buffalo is wholly unjustified and utterly disgraceful,” Mr. Cuomo said. “I’ve spoken with City of Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown and we agree that the officers involved should be immediately suspended. Police officers must enforce — NOT ABUSE — the law.”

“It sickens me,” the Erie County executive, Mark Poloncarz, wrote on Twitter about the video, which includes both vulgarity and disturbing images.

The Buffalo Police Department told local media that five people were arrested during the protest.

The mayor, Mr. Brown, said in a statement that he was disturbed by the episode and that the city’s police commissioner had ordered an immediate investigation.
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So, maybe it's time for you to stop shrieking about this, Aneeda? The police didn't get away with it, it's been recognized as abuse, etc. You are setting up a straw horse.

One of these outrages has nothing to do with the other, except that they are both clearly police abuse. The explosive protest to Floyd's murder (and yes, murder is worse than knocking someone down, as bad as that was) is the sickening frequency with which black people seem to be killed by police in this country, often for no reason at all.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Let's see if I got this right. A white guy was beaten up, so that proves white cops aren't racists, just thugs. But they aren't thugs, because the white guy didn't comply with some curfew laws, so that's the legal basis to bash his face in. And since no black person was killed, the media didn't care. But it was the media, who stirred up things, because the cops were racists. And the reason the cops beat up people, was the rioters looting. But people were only forced to loot because of the actions of the racist thugs-the police. But the law abiding police only arrest criminals, who are all black, because whites don't commit crimes. But whites make up most of the media, who only focus on blacks criminals as the new orange. But cops proportionally arrested more blacks than whites, which proves cops are racists. But if one white guy gets beat up that proves white cops aren't racists, but the cops said his cell phone was a "gun", and killed him. But the media...................................................................................INFINITY.
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Well, unless the white guy has died, last I heard he was in the hospital, you are wrong No. 1. The cops did not think the cell phone was a gun, they claimed he tripped. Wrong No. 2. The white guy was not beat up, he was pushed. wrong No 3. The white guy‘s face wasn’t bashed in, he was pushed backwards, fell, and hit his head. Wrong No. 4.

IMO a couple of mentions in the media does not equal the coverage the other guy has gotten so, wrong No. 5 IMO. No one said white guys are not criminal. Actually, I think most serial killers have been white. Wrong No. 6. Since the white guy was not beat up, it does not prove or disprove that cops are racists. Wrong No. 7. Comments about looters, wrong No. 8.

Other stuff were you go wrong-9 and 10.

But the BIGGEST, thing you got wrong is the orange guy comment. The orange guy, as everyone knows, lives in the WHITE HOUSE. The BIG WHITE HOUSE in Washington DC. It’s on the east coast of the USA. The sun comes up in the East, maybe that’s why he’s orange. IDK.

In any case, in my opinion, you got it wrong.
 
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asp3 said:
CNN is covering it a lot so I'm seeing reasonable media coverage.

This is one recent incident that isn't yet another in a string of incidents with similar situations. I think the difference between the level of response to this and the level or response to the George Floyd and now Manuel Ellis is there is not perceived behavior towards many elderly people as opposed to perceived behavior towards many black people.

Based on the coverage I've seen (police officer or officers shoved the man causing him to fall backwards, hit his head on the sidewalk and then the entire group just walks on leaving him there) I hope the officers who shoved him are fired and the rest of the group faces repercussions for not taking action to assist their victim.

However as I said this is based on the coverage I've seen. It might not be the complete picture yet. There may have been other officers behind the group that moved in to help the man. The coverage also doesn't show what the officers were moving towards which might have affected their lack of focus on their victim.
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What? An officer came up from behind two officers and shoved the elderly man-hard. The two officers who were involved went to kneel down to help and the officer who push the elderly man down, stopped them from helping.

No officers were running, all the officers I saw passed him by and left him laying on the ground. At least it is an assault, if he dies maybe accidental death. Either way, a wrongful death lawsuit. But no protests, no riots, and no black man involvement so no racism, so no protestors, so no riots. Hmm.

Unless white lives don’t matter. Or is it just that old white lives don’t matter. Or is it just that the black lives matter movement is all about the money? Makes you wonder?
 
Aneeda72 - As I said, it is one horrible isolated incident as opposed to a long string of horrible incidents with similar circumstances. To me that is why there are no protests. I see these things as totally different situations and consider the difference in the responses as completely reasonable. It appears that you don't agree and I'm sure we see the world very differently.
 
Aneeda. The "orange guy"-'The orange guy, as everyone knows, lives in the WHITE HOUSE. " He does not live in the White House. It is a reference to the fact that black convicts wear orange prison suits. Since you misinterpreted that reference, maybe, you missed that all I was doing was repeating the things people have voiced in this forum.
 
MSNBC keeps replaying 18 seconds of the video. What would really cook their goose is if it was just some guy from out of town just asking for directions. "Excuse me. What street am I on?" WHAM!!! Police tried to report the man lost his balance, tripped and fell. Yep, tripped and fell after flying backward from a body blow. Geez.
 

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