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Silent Rose

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I am usually not into these awards shows, but I am super excited that CODA won Best Picture tonight and also Best Supporting Actor Award to the 1st ever Deaf Actor Tony Kotsur for his amazing performance as Frank Rossi(The Dad) in the movie based on a deaf family that their youngest daughter is the only one in the family that can hear.

I had to share this as for someone that is in the deaf and hearing impaired community this is pretty exciting.
 

Didn't watch, Haven't watched in decades. Stopped watching award shows long ago.

Did see the news and read some stories on actor Will Smith hitting comedian Chris Rock for a JOKE about his wife's hair. A JOKE. But then I'm thinking this is a building full of actors, writers, directors etc. A part of me thinks this could've been staged. It's free PR for the individuals involved and the telecast/ceremony itself. Either way planned or real it's poor taste/behavior no matter how one puts it.
 
We watched the last 20 minutes, which turned out to be 30. Will Smith’s acceptance speech/rambling made no sense until I read about him hitting Chris Rock for a joke that Rock made about Jada. Whether or not it was staged, I don’t know. It’ll be analyzed and discussed by the media for ages. Great publicity for all of them.
 

Silent Rose said:
I am usually not into these awards shows, but I am super excited that CODA won Best Picture tonight and also Best Supporting Actor Award to the 1st ever Deaf Actor Tony Kotsur for his amazing performance as Frank Rossi(The Dad) in the movie based on a deaf family that their youngest daughter is the only one in the family that can hear.

I had to share this as for someone that is in the deaf and hearing impaired community this is pretty exciting.
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I hope he won because of his genuine talent....not to tick boxes.
 
Jules said:
We watched the last 20 minutes, which turned out to be 30. Will Smith’s acceptance speech/rambling made no sense until I read about him hitting Chris Rock for a joke that Rock made about Jada. Whether or not it was staged, I don’t know. It’ll be analyzed and discussed by the media for ages. Great publicity for all of them.
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Honestly, does anyone care what these celebs do?
 
Chris Rock is the sort of smart, funny comedian who can speak truths through his comedy. I've never heard him be mean spirited and he wasn't last night. Instead he took the punch, tried to explain he meant no harm, then was shouted and sworn at by Smith and still went on with the show. So much respect for him.

Will Smith, on the other hand, has always acted like he thinks he and his family were Hollywood's greatest actors ever, all while playing the same, one note, cocky character in every movie. As if public violence and swearing wasn't enough he made it all worse in his Oscar acceptance speech by calling it "an act of love" and framing it as a race issue by saying, "this is the lack of respect we have to deal with." I hope this hurts his box office draw, but I doubt if it will.
 
Della said:
Chris Rock is the sort of smart, funny comedian who can speak truths through his comedy. I've never heard him be mean spirited and he wasn't last night. Instead he took the punch, tried to explain he meant no harm, then was shouted and sworn at by Smith and still went on with the show. So much respect for him.

Will Smith, on the other hand, has always acted like he thinks he and his family were Hollywood's greatest actors ever, all while playing the same, one note, cocky character in every movie. As if public violence and swearing wasn't enough he made it all worse in his Oscar acceptance speech by calling it "an act of love" and framing it as a race issue by saying, "this is the lack of respect we have to deal with." I hope this hurts his box office draw, but I doubt if it will.
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Will Smith's wife has a medical problem that has caused her to lose her hair. The movie Chris Rock referenced was with a bald character. I have never heard Chris Rock be offensive before, but I do think this one crossed a line.

I did stand-up comedy in the 90s. I don't think Chris Rock intended anything mean, but I do think he flubbed that one and wound up being very offensive to her. It is something that happens to comedians, especially when they are pressed and trying to come up with comedy lines, under pressure.
 
JonSR77 said:
I have never heard Chris Rock be offensive before, but I do think this one crossed a line.

I did stand-up comedy in the 90s. I don't think Chris Rock intended anything mean, but I do think he flubbed that one and wound up being very offensive to her. It is something that happens to comedians, especially when they are pressed and trying to come up with comedy lines, under pressure.
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It is not normal to assault the comedian, Will Smith should have been kicked out instead of staying & grinning. The offensive one was Will Smith, not Chris Rock.

Everyone screams about their "Freedom of Speech" so Chris was free to speak and Will was free to hit him? Chris is a small man and macho Will towered over him. Tired of this sick culture unleashed in 2016.

So, Jon, what say you, or do I have to beat it out of you?
eta LoL, no fighting ;)
 
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Yes, women are still in need of protection from their big strong men. Sigh. What an arousal. If she is so sensitive, why not wear a wig? Obviously she isn't. I thought her head looked wonderful, she is a beautiful woman. Chris Rock is a small man with a big mouth and Will Smith is a bully who needs anger management.
 
Marie5656 said:
I am so out of the loop with current movies, I have to say I have never heard of either that movie or actor. I do not remember the last time I watched an award show.
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....same here, @Marie5656. I used to never miss the awards show but to me there are less and less new movies that interest me....ditto on the actors. The same can be said on new music.
I am truly an 'old fogey'.
 
I didn't see the actual show when it happened so I did not see the closed captions of it when it happened. For me though getting the full context of the situation through the video is impossible other than the slap. I cannot hear the joke from Chris Rock or what Will Smith said in response. I did later read it in text form and the joke was in my opinion distasteful knowing the disability that Jada Pinkett Smith has. I am not one that thinks jokes about disabilities are funny at all no matter if the person who is the brunt of the joke is comfortable with their disability or not. There are many others out there who may have the same disability who are not comfortable with it and it is just not right. Maybe my views are a bit strong because I myself have a disability and what if Chris Rock made a joke towards one of the deaf actors from the CODA movie. Would that have been right even if they laughed it off? I don't think so because it most certainly would have offended many in that community and I believe this probably did the same to those who suffer with this.

I also feel Will Smith could have handled the situation much better by talking to Chris Rock privately about the comment instead of what he did and ask Chris Rock to apologize for his comment that way in a statement. That would have in my opinion been a much better way to handle the situation, but we all know celebrities go for the drama.
 
Will Smith was a breath of fresh air.

I don't condone physical attacks, OR, verbal attacks.

Some people with the 'gift of the gab' can tear other people to bits with their tongues, and claim 'it's just a joke', but they really hurt the person that they are verbally insulting, who, because they don't know how to respond 'verbally' they lash out physically instead.

Will Smith put that insulting 'so called comedian' in his place, and reminded the world watching, that chivalry still exists.
The man stuck up for his lady wife, I applaud him.
 
Sassycakes said:
I might differ with other people,but in this case I side with Will Smith. He did what any good husband should do when someone insults their wife for a condition she has and that is my opinion.
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I can't side with either, but what I do feel is Will was acting in the heat of the moment/passion by what some would consider "fighting words". A comedy routine does not justify true fw. That however does not absolve Will of possibly breaking Chris Rock's jaw, that was a hard hit.
 
I don't think Chris Rock had any idea that Jada had a skin condition that caused her hair to fall out. She has worn her hair very short before and he just thought it was her style of the moment. Alopecia is usually temporary. I know several people who had it (my husband and niece) and the hair came back as suddenly as it left. About half my hair fell out after Covid and now it's returned. I would never have called it a disability. It can be upsetting but it's really not the same sort of thing as being deaf.

I think Will Smith expected a standing ovation after he struck a much smaller man who was in the middle of a performance. Smith later described himself as a protector and defender. Really? You'd think he ran into a burning building for her. He's just a spoiled, self-important man who thinks he and his family are above everyone else.

I consider my husband a good man but he knows I don't expect him to act like a redneck in a bar looking for an excuse to fight if someone insulted me. He's an adult who knows how to use words. It's this "might makes right" attitude where arguments are settled with violence that gives us road rage incidents and people fighting on planes. Aren't we more civilized than that?
 
And here i thought the highlight of the night was going to be Sean Penn taking a blowtorch to his Oscars outside in the street.

Lacking that, we had Will Smith bi*ch-slapping Chris Rock on stage.

I'm just into it for the gorgeous dresses and outrageous outfits. If I knew there was going to be a prize fight, I'd-a made popcorn.

I haven't seen any of the movies and haven't heard of half of them. I'm so out of touch.....
 
Marie5656 said:
I am so out of the loop with current movies, I have to say I have never heard of either that movie or actor. I do not remember the last time I watched an award show.
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I am waaay behind the times on movies(except Netflix), and I hardly know many of the younger actors these days, so no real interest in awards shows.
Regarding the Will Smith vs Chris Rock thing: social media is blowing up over it. My opinion: staged!
 
The Slap? G. I. Jane was bald because the movie part called for it. Jada was bald because she suffers from an embarrassing medical condition. It was a rude remark but comedians often go over the line in the search for a laugh. Appropriate response? Maybe not but guaranteed to get attention. It takes the unexpected to get attention from the general public these days.
 
Della said:
Will Smith...As if public violence and swearing wasn't enough he made it all worse in his Oscar acceptance speech by calling it "an act of love" and framing it as a race issue by saying, "this is the lack of respect we have to deal with." I hope this hurts his box office draw, but I doubt if it will.
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Back in the day, everyone took insults with a sense of humor. Look at all the successful comedians that made a living out of insulting everyone. They had celebrity roasts even. Remember Don Rickles? Phyllis Diller? Joan Rivers? Nothing last night came close to them. Although I agree it was certainly rude.

I don't think Will Smith was framing it as a race issue...he and Chris Rock are both black. I think Will Smith is just talking about Hollywood in general...definitely Hollywood Tabloids...or possibly how different the world is today with generally less respect for everything.

If anything it's probably going to help Will Smith at the box office....lots of free publicity that speaks to those who don't care.
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