AI creating a society of skeptics?

Michael Z

Michael Z

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I find myself muttering “that’s AI” many times during a day, and more and more each day. But I know how to escape it. I still know where to find what is real and have a feel for what is not. But what about the children growing up in this insanity? For example, lawmakers in Wisconsin feel the need to ban marriages of a human with an AI creation!
 

Ever wonder what would happen if you fell in love with Siri? Fortunately for you, Spike Jonze made a movie to help answer that question.

"Her" takes place in a near-future version of Earth where A.I. embedded in smartphones and computers completely change the cultural makeup of society ... or do they? The film follows the life of Theodore Twombly (Joaquin Phoenix), a writer who, after a split with his wife, develops a romantic relationship with the A.I. in his new phone, Samantha (Scarlett Johansson).

And that's kind of the whole plot.

The common tropes of science fiction suggest a story like "Her" must end badly, with some kind of dire warning being spelled out to the audience to not, under any circumstances, fall in love with your phone. And yet, Jonze's film refrains from that kind of dark ending. It's a movie more interested in questions than answers, focusing more on the possibilities of how technology could change the world than on whether those changes would be objectively good or bad.

Like "Interstellar," "Her" is a masterfully crafted film. Phoenix shines as he so often does, delivering infinite nuance and depth in the subtle mannerisms of the quiet Theodore, and there's an elegance to the film's aesthetic that makes it feel futuristic and realistic at the same time.

Read More: https://www.looper.com/759573/movies-about-the-future-everyone-should-watch/
 

Michael Z said:
I find myself muttering “that’s AI” many times during a day, and more and more each day. But I know how to escape it. I still know where to find what is real and have a feel for what is not. But what about the children growing up in this insanity? For example, lawmakers in Wisconsin feel the need to ban marriages of a human with an AI creation!
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Can you imagine being a teacher these days... when the kids already think they know the answer because they read an AI report... and won't listen to the teacher...
 
I've had the feeling for a long time that when I call a company for help with their product, or to tell them that something is not working properly, I am actually talking to an AI entity. Either that, or their staff is instructed to answer as if they were AI "things." Example:

Me: Your music device doesn't seem to be working properly.

Voice on phone, very mechanically: I - am - sorry - to - hear- you - are - having - a - problem.

Me: Thank you. My problem is.... (whatever),

Voice on phone: I - am - sorry - to - hear- you - are - having - a - problem. Have you checked the (so-and-so) indicator?

And so on. The voice usually has a foreign accent, so maybe that's why it sounds so mechanical. But I still wonder.
 
Sunny said:
I've had the feeling for a long time that when I call a company for help with their product, or to tell them that something is not working properly, I am actually talking to an AI entity. Either that, or their staff is instructed to answer as if they were AI "things." Example:

Me: Your music device doesn't seem to be working properly.

Voice on phone, very mechanically: I - am - sorry - to - hear- you - are - having - a - problem.

Me: Thank you. My problem is.... (whatever),

Voice on phone: I - am - sorry - to - hear- you - are - having - a - problem. Have you checked the (so-and-so) indicator?

And so on. The voice usually has a foreign accent, so maybe that's why it sounds so mechanical. But I still wonder.
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Now that you mention this, I wonder if AI was 'responsible' for the replies I received from various companies recently (by email), because my actual questions were not addressed..
 
Sunny said:
I've had the feeling for a long time that when I call a company for help with their product, or to tell them that something is not working properly, I am actually talking to an AI entity. Either that, or their staff is instructed to answer as if they were AI "things." Example:

Me: Your music device doesn't seem to be working properly.

Voice on phone, very mechanically: I - am - sorry - to - hear- you - are - having - a - problem.

Me: Thank you. My problem is.... (whatever),

Voice on phone: I - am - sorry - to - hear- you - are - having - a - problem. Have you checked the (so-and-so) indicator?

And so on. The voice usually has a foreign accent, so maybe that's why it sounds so mechanical. But I still wonder.
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When that happens to me, I say very firmly, Let me speak to a human. And it works!
 
I often see AI made videos on Facebook. A few years ago I probably would have believed they were real. But now in the age of AI I am much more skeptical. I really doubt a baby with a pacifier and a dog could dance as smoothly as adults 😂
 
I have also seen countless videos of dogs saving babies in dangerous situations. They look very real. If I had not seen them so many times, I probably would have believed they were real.
josephine said:
I often see AI made videos on Facebook. A few years ago I probably would have believed they were real. But now in the age of AI I am much more skeptical. I really doubt a baby with a pacifier and a dog could dance as smoothly as adults 😂
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I was thinking about having some AI-construct create a life for me where an AI me is
married to an AI generated wife and then have it live that life for me while I go on living
this life that I've been living free of AI thingies and whatnot.

Perhaps, I'll let it/them contact me on FB every now and then... maybe on holidays they
can send me AI generated pictures of the "family" from wherever they "live". And when
they tell me how well they're all doing, maybe I'll try hitting 'em up for some cash because
"Times are hard for us bio-organisms out here..."

But as for the real-life youth of today... I am seriously concerned that despite many who claim
that there's no need to overreact... I just disagree. There are a lot of immoral and amoral people
working in AI-related industries that are out for making money or whatever any way that they
can and program their AI driven creation to think just like they do.
 
Didn't understand what the OP was writing about since he made it sound like some controversy? Thus as someone not on any post smartphone social media or owning any popular AI toys, suspected it was another social media jargon thing so web searched. As expected it is another IMO reflection of a lack of intelligence in many ordinary people that unwisely tend to take quick positions about complex issues they don't have patience or knowledge to effectively bother to understand. The same factors why during political elections they are bombarded by manipulators influencing them because they are easy prey.

Who and What comprise AI Skepticism?

...Newton’s take: AI Skepticism has two main “camps,” the “AI is real and dangerous” camp versus “AI is fake and it sucks” camp. The first group, which Newton puts himself in, believes that AI is going to transform life as we know it, bestow great benefits as well as harms, and may soon lead to artificial general intelligence. In contrast, Newton contends, the fake-and-sucks group is so fixated on the current limitations of AI, they fail to appreciate the advances of this technology and its many benefits, benefits he believes will only continue to grow...

The basic problem with this essay is that nearly everything about it is, well, wrong..

The writer disagreeing with the above then broke down some apparent controversy issues people that coined the term have been talking about...(on social media)

Scientific Skeptics – Cognitive Science Wing
Scientific Skeptics – Neuroscience & Linguistics Wing
Skeptics of AI Art and Literature
AI in Education Skeptics
Sociocultural Scholarly Skeptics – “the DAIR wing”
Sociocultural Commentator Critics – “the neo-Luddite wing”
Skeptics of AI Doom – “the Princeton School”
Technical AI Skeptics
Gary Marcus Wing

So I also disagree with of how the OP Title framed the thread as over-generalized.

is:
AI creating a society of skeptics?

should be:
The leading edge values and validity of various current and future AI uses is being debated by elites engineering that software.

So ordinary folk read some of what they discuss, then stupidly misinterpret in simplistic ways.
 
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When will AI takeover Hollywood and we have fake actors in roles?
I wondered if the Disney movie “Polar Express” shown at Christmas time is AI or animation? It’s a tossup for me.
 
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