Americans are fat.

It's too easy to get takeaway meals and home deliveries such as Uber Eats and Menu Log. I have never had a meal delivered to my place, it's so much easier to run up a quick meal at home. But, on the other hand when you have a few kids then the temptation is easier to get takeaway.
 

I was watching a college baseball game. on TV. Behind the batter, in the stands, there were rows of spectators-both men and women. And they were all fat, well over into the 200+ lb. range. In the first row was at least a ton of human flesh. BTW, I'm 200 lbs, so I'm no starvin' Marvin, either. Okay, so I changed the channel to the Tour De France bike race. I noticed that the spectators were all rather thin. It struck me that people could be thin, I'm so used to fat people. Most of the French were on the thin side, while in the USA, most were fat- anywhere from 50lbs. + overweight.
Americans are way too fat. WHY?
I've said this for a long time. Tell our kids to stop eating instead of having them eat to compensate for lack of affection, THINGS, etc. They'll soon be diseased with diabetes, heart disease, cancer, etc.
 
My BMI is exactly average, and I have no desire to either gain or lose weight. But during the pandemic, I lost about 5 pounds. Not from being sick, I only got Covid once and was mildly ill for 2 days. I think what did it was the lack of eating in restaurants! I certainly wasn't trying to lose that weight, and I wasn't sick either.

I do go to restaurants now, but much less often, because they've become ridiculously expensive. So far, the weight has stayed off.
 
Yea, I never see any kids in public, do they still make them?

The only bike riders around here are mostly meth-tweakers riding a stolen bike... :rolleyes:
I agree. It is rare to see kids on bikes. I am on the bike path or the adjacent hiking path every day of the week. I rarely see kids. Occasionally one or two with a parent who is into biking. During the school year, a high school biking class. What I do see the most? - competitive bikers getting their training miles in. Also, dog walkers (mostly seniors) on the nature trails. A few joggers. On the weekend, many recreational bikers, mostly younger professional types 25-45. All told, considering this is a metro area of one million people, it’s not that crowded.
 
Yea, I never see any kids in public, do they still make them?

The only bike riders around here are mostly meth-tweakers riding a stolen bike... :rolleyes:
here where I live, the kids are out playing every day.. on bikes, scooters, roller skates just as we did when we were kids. The very small ones have their parents with them and walk to the park, but kids from about 9 upwards are out playing alone or with friends..
 
Probably some truth to that, which do you think is worse for one's health?
I went with obesity as worse since it leads to so many otther health issues including high cholesterol, high blood pressure, risk of heart attack or heart disease etc ….

I looked it up.
Based on their findings, researchers determined that obesity caused as much as 47 percent more life-years lost than tobacco, while tobacco caused people to lose about the same number of years from their life as high blood pressure
 
In the US, fat is the norm. It isn't healthy, and is causing illnesses. Why are other nations fitter than the US?
Same in Canada! I'm no "starvin' Marvin" either but I am concerned about so many young people in their late teens early twenties looking obese! Watch the average street scene and you see way too many "waddlers!" One of my guilty pleasures was Egg McMuffins until I read on their menu they were over 560 calories each! I no longer treat myself to them, despite the fact that I no longer watch my diet, but 1100 calories for breakfast? No way, no longer!
 
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Statistically the US is only the 12th fattest country:
"The United States has the 12th highest obesity rate in the world at 36.2%. Obesity rates vary significantly between states](/state-rankings/obesity-rate-by-state), ranging from 23% to 38.10%"

It may turn out to be wrong or incomplete, but I am a fan of blaming sugar (not fat) for the obesity and metabolic health problems (which also affect people who are not obese). The consumption of sugar increases insulin (and insulin moves calories into fat cells) and decreases the hormone that makes people feel full and ready to be active (so they keep eating). Back in the 1970s we were told to eat less fat, so we instead started eating things that were low fat but high sugar (such as Snack Well Cookies), and since then we just keep getting fatter.

I'm really happy now that I've followed a low sugar diet for a year and a half (I aim to consume only half of the WHO daily limit recommendation). My triglycerides dropped a lot (they were high before) and have stayed down in a very healthy range, and amazingly (to me) twice this past month I completely skipped lunch without feeling hungry.
 
Probably some truth to that, which do you think is worse for one's health?
Ultimately, the loss of freedom to eat what one wants or smoke a cigarette is worse for someone's health. We can't know what another person is dealing with in life, what pain they suffer. We've all been through difficult times when we felt oppressed and powerless. If someone derives some comfort or at least a little control over their life by eating a burger with fries or smoking a cigarette then let them do so without judgment. They may be hanging on to sanity by a thread and staring at them in judgment as the OP suggested is more than they can take.

Let me ask you a question which is worse, to allow someone to make their own personal choices or to see a person ready to lose it pull out a gun and start shooting innocent people because another staring at them in judgment is the thing that has pushed them over the edge and they believe the world IS a hard place filled with cruel people who deserve to suffer?

I cannot be deliberately cruel to another person like that when being kind is what they may need.
 
If you eat more calories than you consume you get fat.
Yes, and if you eat fewer calories than you burn you will lose weight -- and then you'll need fewer calories because you'll be smaller, and later you'll need even fewer calories because your metabolism will have slowed down to help you live through the perceived famine. After a year or so you won't be able to eat more than about 600-800 hundred calories a day without gaining. Meanwhile your leptin levels will have doubled (leptin being the hunger producing hormone) so you'll be ravenously hungry all the time even though your body is starting to gain back weight on about 600 calories a day.:eek:
 
If you eat more calories than you consume you get fat.
This is so old school and actually incorrect.

An intake of calories is only ONE factor of the equation. What the person is eating, when the person is eating it and how active the person is, the age of the person, all factor in to the equation.

A person can consume more calories of the right type of foods ( nutrition dense ) and actually lose weight.

If a person eats 300 calories of fresh raw vegetables, doesn’t equate to a person eating 300 calories eating pecan pie.
 
Ultimately, the loss of freedom to eat what one wants or smoke a cigarette is worse for someone's health.
Interesting perspective, and I would agree that people should be free to make their own choices about food and other lifestyle things so long as they don't hurt anyone else. Doesn't mean the government and others shouldn't try to provide guidance and help in making healthier choices, but I don't believe it should be forced or anyone criticized for their choices. I have lots of obese and/or smoking friends and family, I think no less of them for it.
Let me ask you a question which is worse, to allow someone to make their own personal choices or to see a person ready to lose it pull out a gun and start shooting innocent people because another staring at them in judgment is the thing that has pushed them over the edge and they believe the world IS a hard place filled with cruel people who deserve to suffer?
Allowing personal choice is the obvious answer, ever without the shooting threat. Do you think our anti-smoking or anti-obesity programs have lead to some of the mass shootings?
 
One of my guilty pleasures was Egg McMuffins until I read on their menu they were over 560 calories each! I no longer treat myself to them, despite the fact that I no longer watch my diet, but 1100 calories for breakfast? No way, no longer!
McD's has seemed to downsize everything as they nearly doubled some of their prices. My daughter had a McMuffin last week and that darn thing was tiny compared to what it used to be! I looked up the stats, and it seems that they now have 310 calories which makes sense since they're so much smaller. Now that doesn't mean they're healthy, Salty :giggle: because they still have 30g total carbs and a shocking 770mg of that evil sodium. @Old Salt
 
@chic and @PeppermintPatty you have raised a very interesting question, to me anyway. It would never have occurred to me that being obese is as bad or worse for your health than smoking. However I did do a bit of follow up Google research and it does appear to be very much true.

Which makes me think about how we treat the two problems. Lots of restrictions, taxes, and social pressures on smokers. Obesity is recognized as a problem, but there are many fewer government controls and taxes than on smoking. Should french fries cost $7 a pack?

I am a supporter of most anti-smoking campaigns, but not judgmental of those who still smoke. I know its a very easy habit to get into and a very hard one to end. Its a personal choice. The one thing I don't like is the extremely high tax on cigarettes. In the US more poor people smoke than rich, the cigarette tax is a tax on the poor. And I suspect doesn't stop much smoking.

Even though I have too much experience with obesity I am less certain as to what to do about it. It's probably a more complex problem than smoking.

However I believe there should be some recognition of the equality of the problems. For example I am not sure it makes sense for smokers to pay higher health insurance premiums, unless we do the same for obese people...

Here is one of the articles I read:

Obesity in adulthood and its consequences for life expectancy
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12513041/

Results: Large decreases in life expectancy were associated with overweight and obesity. Forty-year-old female nonsmokers lost 3.3 years and 40-year-old male nonsmokers lost 3.1 years of life expectancy because of overweight. Forty-year-old female nonsmokers lost 7.1 years and 40-year-old male nonsmokers lost 5.8 years because of obesity. Obese female smokers lost 7.2 years and obese male smokers lost 6.7 years of life expectancy compared with normal-weight smokers. Obese female smokers lost 13.3 years and obese male smokers lost 13.7 years compared with normal-weight nonsmokers. Body mass index at ages 30 to 49 years predicted mortality after ages 50 to 69 years, even after adjustment for body mass index at age 50 to 69 years.

Conclusions: Obesity and overweight in adulthood are associated with large decreases in life expectancy and increases in early mortality. These decreases are similar to those seen with smoking. Obesity in adulthood is a powerful predictor of death at older ages. Because of the increasing prevalence of obesity, more efficient prevention and treatment should become high priorities in public health.
 
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Statistically the US is only the 12th fattest country:
"The United States has the 12th highest obesity rate in the world at 36.2%. Obesity rates vary significantly between states](/state-rankings/obesity-rate-by-state), ranging from 23% to 38.10%"
Yes, but the 11 above us are mostly small Pacific Island nations, none are what we'd consider Western...

Country - % of Obese Adults
  1. Nauru 61%
  2. Cook Islands 55.9%
  3. Palau 55.3%
  4. Marshall Islands 52.9%
  5. Tuvalu 51.6%
  6. Niue 50%
  7. Tonga 48.2%
  8. Samoa 47.3%
  9. Kiribati 46%
  10. Micronesia 45.8%
  11. Kuwait 37.9%
  12. United States 36.2%
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/obesity-rates-by-country
 

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