An airline has announced it will begin weighing passengers with their carry-on luggage

I fly several times a year, usually internationally and I have noticed two things in recent years:
1. People seem to be getting larger and larger.
2. Since airlines started limiting checked luggage weight and in many cases charging for all checked luggage, people are bringing more & larger carry on pieces onto the plane. There are rules for size & type of bags you can bring as carry-on but I'm not sure that's being rigorously checked at check-in or the gate.

Some airlines, the budget ones, are now charging extra for carry-on bags.
 

MrPants said:
Some airlines, the budget ones, are now charging extra for carry-on bags.
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I wish they all would and then I’d pay so I have space for my carry-on. Even when I have free luggage allotment, I do carry-on.

MrPants said:
There are rules for size & type of bags you can bring as carry-on but I'm not sure that's being rigorously checked at check-in or the gate.
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It sure isn’t. There’s always someone with a too large bag or two. They’re shoving and pushing other people’s luggage aside so they can get theirs in.
 
I don't see anything wrong. If somebody wants a big butt or huge breasts, why not? I've read that in the U.S. the maximum legal size of breast implants is 800cc. But there are doctors who fill the 800cc saline implants up to 2000cc or even more, as here in the video.
 
I'm not sure an airline needs to weigh the passengers on large jet planes. If you weigh a number of average plane fulls of passengers, you'll get the average weight of passengers. Your statistics will tell you how much that varies. Airlines use the greatest extreme to estimate fuel consumption. Airlines will have to keep re-evaluation the average weight of a plane full of people, to keep up with weight changes.
Of course, if you're on a smaller aircraft where weight becomes more a critical factor, weighing passengers seems a logical thing to do.
 
hollydolly said:
Nope, she's real... here she is when she started complaining about Airlines not having wide enough seats or long enough seatbelts

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Dumb guy, here. I've seen women like this. Are they born that way, or created? Humans are supposed to have the largest male parts of any primate, not because they were needed, but that's what females liked. Then evolution entered into things. Same thing happening to women, because of men's desires????????
It ain't my desire.
 
Maybe the average person is getting bigger?
18 Wheelers can weigh their own max load weights.
They then adjust their trailer axles for legal reasons.
 
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Makes sense & reminds me of our trip to the states in a Military flight aboard a Super Constellation Plane.

Our 1st. born son was about 3 months old. The flight grom Ramey AFB was delayed for two hours so of course our son needed to be fed. Milk, his favorite pureed carrots had him happy. Finally on board & a couple of hours into the flight our son needed a diaper changed. My job since I had the aisle seat. Went to the back of the plane where there was a space suitable too change him.

Digested milk & pureed carrots generated a smell impossible to describe. The only way to explain was the last six rows of passengers got up to walk to the front of the plane.

That shifted the weight causing the pilot to correct the flight angle. He had no clue as to why that need to adjust flight angle was taking place. When one of the flight attendants let him know he got on the intercom to ask everyone to return to their seats.

Slowly & I mean real slowly they did.
 
I remember this was standard procedure for flying in rural Alaska. The human scale was right next to the check-in counter. It’s been over 30 years but I would guess they still do it. These were twin and single engine commuter planes serving the villages.
 
jujube said:
The old joke used to be that one day there'd be a planeload full of women and the plane wouldn't be able to get off the runway because of the weight of their purses.

That's true! Back in the 1960's and 1970's, when I did a lot of foreign flights, they didn't weigh your purses, only your checked bags and sometimes your carry-on.

When I was moving to Turkey, I had a HUGE purse that I loaded up with my silverware set. It weighed so much, I thought my shoulder was going to break. As I was climbing the steps into the plane, the purse strap broke and my purse bounced down the steps behind me and off the steps onto the runway. The zipper burst open and the silverware flew in all directions.

I didn't know WHAT to do..... Luckily, the ground personnel started picking up all the pieces and throwing them into my purse. I was so embarrassed. Later, when I got there, I checked and EVERY PIECE had been recovered. I'm sure they were laughing about that for days.

I most recently flew on Aeromexico and they state that they weight EVERYTHING that you take on board, including your purse. Luckily, they didn't.
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When Hubby and I flew to Egypt on Egypt air I was flabbergasted at what passengers were lining up with as cabin luggage. They had shopping trolleys loaded with bulky goods. No kitchen sink but there was a least one microwave oven that was waved through.
 
So what if a passenger and luggage are over some imposed limit ? Are they waved out of line ? or, just charged a higher ticket price ?, then when the limit of the plane is met, others are waved off ?
 
In the 1990s I was passenger in a small plane from Toronto to the Maritimes. On the seat behind me sat a young woman, she was fat, to say the least, but with the face of an angel. She was very frightened during the takeoff and grasped tightly my throat with both hands. Fortunately I didn't get strangled :ROFLMAO:
 
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I’m sorry Holly, but I am going a little off topic. My big complaint at United was they were always complaining about turnaround time, which is the amount of time it takes to prepare the plane for the next flight. Many of us have told management that if they would get rid of the overhead bins, they could save a lot of time by checking all the baggage.

Management tells us that defeats their purpose. They want more people to carryon their luggage, but pack lighter. In fact, they are redesigning their new aircraft with larger overhead bins. This is one reason they give for charging to checked luggage. They want passengers to travel lighter and carryon their bag.

The airlines have to learn, they can’t have it both ways. The more bags carried onboard, the longer it will take to deplane the passengers and clean the coach before the next flight. Why they can’t figure that out is beyond me.
 
oldman said:
Weight has always been a huge factor for airlines. At United, at one time, management ran a contest for its employees to come up with ways to save fuel. This was another reason to stop serving food. Food for 200-400 passengers is a lot of weight. Saving fuel is saving money.

Jet fuel is expensive. We had to calculate the weight of our passengers, baggage and freight. We used government averages of males, females and children. Add all that together, plus weight of the aircraft and we can figure our takeoff speed (V1).
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I should have added the weight of the fuel we carried before takeoff.
 
hollydolly said:
About time IMO....

An airline has announced it will begin weighing passengers with their carry-on luggage in order to better estimate the plane's weight before take-off.

The controversial move comes from Finnish carrier Finnair, who told media they began 'measuring' passengers departing from Helsinki on Monday.

'So far, more than 500 volunteer customers have participated in the weigh-ins,' spokeswoman Kaisa Tikkanen said.

Finnair, which services the UK with budget flights to and from Finland, noted in a statement airlines work out the weight of the plane, its interior and passengers on board to balance the flight and make for safe transit.

Airlines may use average weights provided by aviation authorities - assumed to be 88kg - or collect their own data, it said.
Weigh-ins will take place in February, April and May and are on a voluntary basis, it said today.

They will also take a note of age, gender and class of travel.

Finnair are not the first airline to take the initiative and measure the weight of passengers themselves.

In August last year, Korea's largest airline, Korean Air, announced it would start weighing passengers at Gimpo Airport on domestic routes and Incheon Airport on international flights for a short period through September.

The company said the move was aimed at reducing wasted fuel and helping more accurately estimate the weight of the plane.

A month prior, an easyJet flight from Lanzarote to Liverpool asked 19 passengers to get off the plane because it was deemed 'too heavy to take off'.

A spokesperson confirmed the incident in a statement, writing: 'easyJet can confirm that 19 passengers on flight EZY3364 from Lanzarote to Liverpool volunteered to travel on a later flight as a result of the aircraft being over the weight limits for the weather conditions.
Airline says it will now weigh PASSENGERS as well as their luggage
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Good grief, is this really what we've come down to? How very very sad. The basic width of an economy seat is 17.5 inches. Think about it. It's ridiculous. It's horrible. You get 32" of leg room, if the person in front doesn't lower their seat. Why does no-one want to say, "society has gotten bigger, so allow more room"?

How many people on this forum, honestly, would fit into a 17.5" space width wise? I know I don't.
 
20 Years On: How Weight Discrepancies Fatally Overloaded Air Midwest Flight 5481

20 Years On: How Weight Discrepancies Fatally Overloaded Air Midwest Flight 5481
The use of estimated passenger weights proved to be a fatal mistake.
This caused the center of gravity to be to far rearward.

. . .after having got airborne, the plane's nose suddenly pitched upwards. Despite the pilots' attempts to rectify this, the angle only increased, peaking at 54 degrees. This caused the plane to stall at an altitude of just 1,150 feet (350 meters).
This forced the aircraft to roll to the left into an unrecoverable descent, which ended when it crashed into a maintenance hangar after barely more than half a minute in the air.
 
hollydolly said:
I know what Lipadema is... that girl has just had too much fat injected into her backside..
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Maybe...maybe not HD. I had a friend who was so butt heavy (but normal every place else) that they detained her a customs when we got back from Jamaica. They thought she had stuff in her pants (probably thought it was drugs). I guarantee you...Cathy never did anything to alter her body. That was just the way she was built.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Maybe...maybe not HD. I had a friend who was so butt heavy (but normal every place else) that they detained her a customs when we got back from Jamaica. They thought she had stuff in her pants (probably thought it was drugs). I guarantee you...Cathy never did anything to alter her body. That was just the way she was built.
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Diva...she's a well known ''influencer'' who has lots of plastic surgery...
 
i remember back in the mid 60s,after training,first post was to BAOR,on a commercial plane,was a Brittania prop plane,,kit bags were stowed,but on the plane we had to wear 2 uniforms,number 2s with combat on top,and a great coat,to be able to get our kit to new posting,we sweltered going over lol,
 
People and luggage are just cargo to hauliers who use trucks, trains or planes, so, if it costs the haulier more in fuel to transport heavier loads, then the haulier will charge more, common sense I think.
It wouldn't surprise me if bus companies at some point in the future installed a weight-scale on the first step onto the bus to inform the driver of the cost of travel to that passenger.
 

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