An Oprah Special on Weight Loss will air tonight on ABC

Pepper said:
INFOMERCIAL! It was awful. Oprah was shameful, IMO. This presentation was a shill, maybe well meaning???? but a shill nonetheless.
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Darn, everyone is hard on education here, aren't they?

You see it as a commercial. I see it as an education special on a national epidemic: obesity. 100 milion in America alone. 100 million large people, some of whom will die younger than need be thanks to fat. Also recall that all obese patients are more susceptible to complications and death from Covid. These are people with families and kids and they are loved. Their families would like them to not die so young.

Do you actually KNOW any obese people? Would you classify them as happy about their weight nor not happy? Do their doctors usually advise them to lose weight?

If some new drug came out that really helped people quit smoking and vaping by cutting the cravings, and Oprah or some other media figure made a special about that, would you also be crying "FOUL"? Or would you bless her because you hate secondhand smoke?

Look at it this way: 100 million obese people are costing YOU money with their health complications. When bariatric surgery is covered by insurance, who is paying for that? You and me. That's how insurance works.

I don't understand this harsh judgment. I really don't. I feel like Oprah, who has weighed over 200 lbs. in her lifetime, has a lot of empathy for people dealing with the same issue, especially in a society that judges all women so very harshly on how we look. She has always been that way - very empathetic to all kinds of personal problems.

I didn't see $ going on. I just saw the empathy. She's a billionaire. She doesn't need more money.
 
Your reply to me is silly. Is it that you're bored right now? You know nothing about me. Everyone knows obese people, most people are.

The format was infomercial. That's all FGS.

Read the next reply I wrote after that.
 

If you do not understand why so many in the audience were nodding in agreement, then you have never been fat or known any fat people.
 
VintageBetter said:
If you do not understand why so many in the audience were nodding in agreement, then you have never been fat or known any fat people.
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This (and the opinions following the show) is not about obesity per se. It's about the fact the Oprah used a drug and many are using a diabetes drug to lose weight when they don't have diabetes. That may sound fine and dandy to some, but the bottom line is that they don't comprehend that they will need to stay on the drug for the rest of their life or start gaining it all back rapidly. It's like people don't want to put the work into losing weight... easy peasy, just pop a pill. SMH
 
VintageBetter said:
Darn, everyone is hard on education here, aren't they?

You see it as a commercial. I see it as an education special on a national epidemic: obesity. 100 milion in America alone. 100 million large people, some of whom will die younger than need be thanks to fat. Also recall that all obese patients are more susceptible to complications and death from Covid. These are people with families and kids and they are loved. Their families would like them to not die so young.

Do you actually KNOW any obese people? Would you classify them as happy about their weight nor not happy? Do their doctors usually advise them to lose weight?

If some new drug came out that really helped people quit smoking and vaping by cutting the cravings, and Oprah or some other media figure made a special about that, would you also be crying "FOUL"? Or would you bless her because you hate secondhand smoke?

Look at it this way: 100 million obese people are costing YOU money with their health complications. When bariatric surgery is covered by insurance, who is paying for that? You and me. That's how insurance works.

I don't understand this harsh judgment. I really don't. I feel like Oprah, who has weighed over 200 lbs. in her lifetime, has a lot of empathy for people dealing with the same issue, especially in a society that judges all women so very harshly on how we look. She has always been that way - very empathetic to all kinds of personal problems.

I didn't see $ going on. I just saw the empathy. She's a billionaire. She doesn't need more money.
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I have not seen the special. And I have very little information on the current weight loss drugs. I did notice Kelly Clarkston's amazing transformation in what I understand was three months. She looks great. Not sure what she took or what the downside might be.

I'm sure Google would help if anyone is interested.
 
Oprah rolling 67 pounds of fat onstage during a 1988 show became the highest-rated episode in Oprah Show history. Where did she get all that fat for the wagon? Plus, Oprah reveals why she shared how she lost the weight at the time.

 
I hate when people say, "I fasted for six weeks," and then say they were drinking shakes the whole time. Fasting means water only. Period. That 1988 diet was Optifast and I think that's what Kelly Clarkson did recently. It works really fast because it was designed for people who needed to lose weight fast before surgery. It has to be supervised by a doctor because it's very low in calories.

I remember Oprah saying that after that liquid diet she felt like she gained it back by the next week.

I'll be waiting to see what happens after the people taking Ozempic have to quit taking it and the long term studies. right now it's suspected of causing thyroid cancer and pancreatitis.
 
VintageBetter said:
I'll bet $10 you are a thin man and have been thin all your life. Good job with the Empathy Training. (Sarcasm.)

Yes, the show was talking about medications, just like if she did a show about heroin addicts they might be taking about Methadone treatment.

I guess you missed the point that obesity for far too many years has been treated like a willpower or laziness problem, when it is far more complex than that, just like any complex illness is not a matter of taking more Vitamin C, plus two aspirin, and call the doctor if it gets worse.
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My stepfather can't gain an ounce. Everyone in his family was on the thin side. Except his one sister. At least the ones I knew of. She was heavy even in younger pictures. And she married a man who's nickname was Slim, because he was. Nice man also.

I will forever blame my mother for my weight gain from the abuse. I have wondered if my life could have been different, if I hadn't eaten the pavement on my bike right before 3rd grade started. I road burned my face and blew one of my eyes totally red. It took a long time to go away. My mother didn't take me to the doctor.

The kids in 3rd grade started teasing me and calling me red eye. It was only teasing but because I was being so verbally abused in that house, I didn't know how to handle it. I told my mother, she came to the school grounds and made such a scene, even grabbed a kid by the arm, I was shunned after that. I didn't tell her again anything. I just internalized it. I made the connection years later, that's when the weight gain started.

And I also remember getting my 2nd grade school picture taken. The lady leaned over and said to the other "she's cute" yeah maybe I was for a short time.
 
Well now Oprah had her own show during most of her diets so she would have been talking about it there anyway. She would have had no extra money for it until she went with Weight Watchers.

I'm not going to start taking any meds to lose weight, but I seriously doubt that Oprah did the special to make money. She's seventy years old and according to Investopedia:
"as of mid-2022, she was worth $2.6 billion. She also gave away a total of $1.5 billion in that time period. She donated the majority of her money to charity, specifically to programs that focus on education and helping the less fortunate."
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Della said:
Well now Oprah had her own show during most of her diets so she would have been talking about it there anyway. She would have had no extra money for it until she went with Weight Watchers.

I'm not going to start taking any meds to lose weight, but I seriously doubt that Oprah did the special to make money. She's seventy years old and according to Investopedia:
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I'm staying fat if I can't lose weight on my own. No way would I take those meds. Or have any surgery for that.

I'm going to go take a short walk now.
 
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