Another attack against Christmas

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LoveTulips

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In the Okanagan in British Columbia, a nativity scene with a sign written " Keep Christ in Christmas" has been deemed non-inclusive. So the sign was removed, probably the nativity scene will go next. I am so fed up of this shit. It's Christmas, a very special baby Jesus celebrates his birthday on this day, and I want to celebrate that as well along with many other people. How does this offend people???
https://www.kelownacapnews.com/loca...-of-religous-sign-from-nativity-scene-7706933
 

From reading the article, someone apparently sees it as an attack on government religious neutrality.
As the article alluded to, had the sign and nativity scene been at a church or home, likely nothing the government would or could do about it.

Is Christmas still celebrated in public schools with decorations and school closure for the holidays?
When I was in public grammar school, we had a Christmas party each year and students exchanged gifts.
Wonder if that is still being done anywhere?

Some see mixing government and religion as a slippery slope.

MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! :)
 

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LoveTulips said:
In the Okanagan in British Columbia, a nativity scene with a sign written " Keep Christ in Christmas" has been deemed non-inclusive. So the sign was removed, probably the nativity scene will go next. I am so fed up of this shit. It's Christmas, a very special baby Jesus celebrates his birthday on this day, and I want to celebrate that as well along with many other people. How does this offend people???
https://www.kelownacapnews.com/loca...-of-religous-sign-from-nativity-scene-7706933
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Jesus wasn't born in December. The Gospel of Luke mentions shepherds watching their flocks at night, which would have been more likely during the warmer months. Luke also describes a Roman census that required Joseph and Mary to travel to Bethlehem, which might have been timed to avoid harsh winter conditions.
 
HermitHogan said:
Jesus wasn't born in December. The Gospel of Luke mentions shepherds watching their flocks at night, which would have been more likely during the warmer months. Luke also describes a Roman census that required Joseph and Mary to travel to Bethlehem, which might have been timed to avoid harsh winter conditions.
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True, It was made a Christian holiday ;later to compete with Paganism celebrating Yule at this time. I think they should leave Jesus in Christmas. We find enough to fight about.Let there be peace.

Merry Christmas to those who don't mind hearing it.
 
HermitHogan said:
Jesus wasn't born in December. The Gospel of Luke mentions shepherds watching their flocks at night, which would have been more likely during the warmer months. Luke also describes a Roman census that required Joseph and Mary to travel to Bethlehem, which might have been timed to avoid harsh winter conditions.
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I'm sure you know very well that mid-December was chosen as a time to celebrate THE BIRTH of Jesus (as opposed to holding a birthday party, which is not the same thing.)
 
But if we're not able to keep Christ in Christmas this is something of an attack on our culture. I did grow up in a Judeo - Christian culture and feel comfortable with that. How do you feel about this? Perhaps political correctness in not the real goal but the obliteration of a culture? It's something to consider.

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chic said:
But if we're not able to keep Christ in Christmas this is something of an attack on our culture. I did grow up in a Judeo - Christian culture and feel comfortable with that. How do you feel about this? Perhaps political correctness in not the real goal but the obliteration of a culture? It's something to consider.

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This is also interesting.
 
I agree with the interpretation that the sign was political. I don't think it was intended to be a message to Christians to remember to keep love, kindness, generosity and tolerance in their observance of the holiday. I think it was intended to frighten Christians into thinking those scary "others" were trying to attack Christianity. Apparently it worked.

I read something yesterday about how people seeking power were inventing culture war issues to get power to discriminate against minorities. I think that was what all that weird stuff about saying 'Merry Christmas' was a few years ago.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Some Christians don't see any harm in having Baby Jesus in a manger in front of the Court House. Yet, their viewpoint radically changes when the Satanists want to put up their tableaus.
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Yes. That reminds me of when I was in journalism school back in the early 1990s. The professors asked us if we thought it would be OK if, for example, the KKK were to hold a demonstration adjacent to an event celebrating Martin Luther King Jr. Of course, we all indignantly said "no." They came back with "Well, free speech is not selective. If it applies to one group it should apply to all groups." That certainly gave me pause.
 
LoveTulips said:
In the Okanagan in British Columbia, a nativity scene with a sign written " Keep Christ in Christmas" has been deemed non-inclusive. So the sign was removed, probably the nativity scene will go next. I am so fed up of this shit. It's Christmas, a very special baby Jesus celebrates his birthday on this day, and I want to celebrate that as well along with many other people. How does this offend people???
https://www.kelownacapnews.com/loca...-of-religous-sign-from-nativity-scene-7706933
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The nativity display doesn’t but the sign is just political and invites push back.
 
HoneyNut said:
I agree with the interpretation that the sign was political. I don't think it was intended to be a message to Christians to remember to keep love, kindness, generosity and tolerance in their observance of the holiday. I think it was intended to frighten Christians into thinking those scary "others" were trying to attack Christianity. Apparently it worked.

I read something yesterday about how people seeking power were inventing culture war issues to get power to discriminate against minorities. I think that was what all that weird stuff about saying 'Merry Christmas' was a few years ago.
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Yep, that old “divide and conquer” strategy’s always getting used, seems like.
 
Jesus taught his followers to pray in private and not for it to be a big spectacle where basically you're saying: "Hey, look at me! I'm praying to the Great Jebus!"

Also, if you want to "put the Christ back in Christmas," you're going to have to change your stance on immigration.
"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me... Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me." Matthew 25:35-40.​
 
HermitHogan said:
Jesus wasn't born in December. The Gospel of Luke mentions shepherds watching their flocks at night, which would have been more likely during the warmer months. Luke also describes a Roman census that required Joseph and Mary to travel to Bethlehem, which might have been timed to avoid harsh winter conditions.
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Not likely the point the OP was trying to convey?
 
KSav said:
Yes. That reminds me of when I was in journalism school back in the early 1990s. The professors asked us if we thought it would be OK if, for example, the KKK were to hold a demonstration adjacent to an event celebrating Martin Luther King Jr. Of course, we all indignantly said "no." They came back with "Well, free speech is not selective. If it applies to one group it should apply to all groups." That certainly gave me pause.
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What context the free speech clause was mounted in is pertinent though. More people need to read it.
 
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