Anthony Bourdain is no longer with us.

Here is Tony with his best friend Eric Ripert; a 3 star Michelin chef and co-owner of the New York restaurant Le Bernardin. It was Eric who found Tony unresponsive.

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Lara said:
I just read some people, and some conspiracy theorists, believe Bourdain was murdered. Has anyone heard this? They say he loved his daughter and had just gotten married...and ask why did the French rule it suicide so quickly before any forensic studies? They gave some theories as to why they believe it was murder but I don't want to get into that. Was just wondering if anyone had heard this.
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No one murdered him. Many of these people see conspiracies every time they look in their morning coffee. And they all come out of the woodwork as soon as someone dies, with all of their "theories". This guy was a ticking bomb for years. He finally mustered up the guts to pull it off.

https://pagesix.com/2018/06/09/anthony-bourdain-was-regularly-suicidal-after-end-of-first-marriage/

"Bourdain related in his book “Medium Raw,” he was “aimless and regularly suicidal” during a stretch in the Caribbean."

Like most people, I really didn't know that much about the guy until he offed himself. Now I'm finding the more I research and read about him, the bigger POS I'm finding he was in life. It's usually just the opposite when you start reading about someone who recently died.
 
WhatInThe said:
Yes it would, especially for recovered addict. And this why I think someone might be pushing a clean suicide narrative because they don't want Bourdain to go down as a drug addict and/or bring attention to themselves-where or who did Bourdain get drugs from.
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Maybe we should have a conspiracy theory forum. There's always plenty of that kind of stuff going around. It would always be very active, I'm sure.
 

billt said:
Like most people, I really didn't know that much about the guy until he offed himself. Now I'm finding the more I research and read about him, the bigger POS I'm finding he was in life. It's usually just the opposite when you start reading about someone who recently died.
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Any specific reason he attracts you so much?
 
It is easy to vilify the dead. They cannot defend themselves. Bourdain suffered from chronic depression, likely that was the reason he turned to substance abuse in the first place. Also likely, he ultimately lost his battle with mental illness and killed himself to avoid further emotional agony. It is unkind to criticise him for finally being unable to cope with the pain regardless

of its effect on his family. Depression kills. It is not about character, it is about mental illness, unless one has been there, no one knows how they might react under those circumstances. How long before society ceases to excoriate those with mental health challenges?
 
Olivia said:
Any specific reason he attracts you so much?
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As I said, the guy had a hard time communicating off camera if he couldn't use the F word. Almost all of his quotes contain, "F this", or "F that". I worked 45 years in blue collar with men. I have no problem with guys, along with all their gutter talk. But when someone in the public eye does it on a constant basis like he did, it shows a general lack of intelligence and communication skills.

I also have no respect for someone who leaves behind a young daughter. I'm an only child from a divorced family. I can't imagine how I would have felt if my mother would have killed herself when I was 11. I doubt I could have ever recovered from something like that. I can all but guarantee you that I wouldn't be the person I am today, that's for sure. I hope his daughter fares well, and her relatives don't spend all of his money before she gets old enough to control it.
 
billt said:
As I said, the guy had a hard time communicating off camera if he couldn't use the F word. Almost all of his quotes contain, "F this", or "F that". I worked 45 years in blue collar with men. I have no problem with guys, along with all their gutter talk. But when someone in the public eye does it on a constant basis like he did, it shows a general lack of intelligence and communication skills.

I also have no respect for someone who leaves behind a young daughter. I'm an only child from a divorced family. I can't imagine how I would have felt if my mother would have killed herself when I was 11. I doubt I could have ever recovered from something like that. I can all but guarantee you that I wouldn't be the person I am today, that's for sure. I hope his daughter fares well, and her relatives don't spend all of his money before she gets old enough to control it.
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Obviously, that's not really the specific reason; otherwise, why haven't you said the same thing about Kate Spade? Or did you somewhere else? Or do you identify more with a dad doing something like that?
 
Olivia said:
Maybe we should have a conspiracy theory forum. There's always plenty of that kind of stuff going around. It would always be very active, I'm sure.
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I'm not saying he was murdered but drugs and/or his past drug use has been ignored or minimized by much of the media since his death. We'll find out when the local coroner is done including blood tests.
 
Olivia said:
Obviously, that's not really the specific reason; otherwise, why haven't you said the same thing about Kate Spade? Or did you somewhere else? Or do you identify more with a dad doing something like that?
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I really had not paid any attention to Spade. Other than hearing she killed herself. I didn't even know who she was. Then again, I don't pay attention to handbag designers.
 
billt said:
I really had not paid any attention to Spade. Other than hearing she killed herself. I didn't even know who she was. Then again, I don't pay attention to handbag designers.
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I appreciate discerning people that don't mess around with trifles.

By the way, who said the following about Bourdain?

Like most people, I really didn't know that much about the guy until he offed himself.
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WhatInThe said:
I'm not saying he was murdered but drugs and/or his past drug use has been ignored or minimized by much of the media since his death. We'll find out when the local coroner is done including blood tests.
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i don't get that impression at all. It's been mentioned almost everywhere. Everyone that knew him, knew he used drugs in the past.

He also still drank, he didn't hide it. If there is alcohol or drugs mentioned in the toxicology report...don't think amybody will be surprised.

He could have relapsed.
 
CeeCee said:
i don't get that impression at all. It's been mentioned almost everywhere. Everyone that knew him, knew he used drugs in the past.

He also still drank, he didn't hide it. If there is alcohol or drugs mentioned in the toxicology report...don't think amybody will be surprised.

He could have relapsed.
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I don't think it was necessarily the past especially since we see him drinking on his shows. This is a question that should be asked. How did he balance or justify the drinking being an "ex" drug addict. I thought being sober included no intoxicating substances including alcohol. I don't know if I would publicly talk about the drug addict years drinking alcohol in the present on camera.
 
WhatInThe said:
I don't think it was necessarily the past especially since we see him drinking on his shows. This is a question that should be asked. How did he balance or justify the drinking being an "ex" drug addict. I thought being sober included no intoxicating substances including alcohol.
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Do you mind me asking why you think this a question that should be asked? Are you dealing with this problem with friends or family?
 
WhatInThe said:
I don't think it was necessarily the past especially since we see him drinking on his shows. This is a question that should be asked. How did he balance or justify the drinking being an "ex" drug addict. I thought being sober included no intoxicating substances including alcohol. I don't know if I would publicly talk about the drug addict years drinking alcohol in the present on camera.
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I don't know. I don't drink or do drugs, so really can't answer your question. Most TV chefs are seen drinking ...that I know.
 
CeeCee said:
I don't know. I don't drink or do drugs, so really can't answer your question. Most TV chefs are seen drinking ...that I know.
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Being seen drinking, and being a drunkard / alcoholic are two entirely different things are they not?

BTW...did you ever take an aspirin ?
 
Olivia said:
Do you mind me asking why you think this a question that should be asked?......
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It should be asked post mortem especially. What kind of example is Bourdain setting for all the ex addicts that went out of their way to avoid all substances and watch a guy/'ex' addict making a living that includes the use/drinking of alcohol? Alcoholics and addicts frequently lack impulse control and discipline and watching a high profile figure ignore or not show self discipline could be used as a rationalization to have a few in what is currently an intoxicating substance free life.

Bourdain was hypocritical to remind us in books, articles, interviews, shows etc about his struggles with drug addiction to openly drink alcohol on camera.
 
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