Anthony Bourdain is no longer with us.

RadishRose said:
Like most people?

Maybe in your little world, but Tony Bourdain was known by millions all over the planet.
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Indeed. His books were best sellers and his shows opened the world to millions. He was was bright, highly accomplished, intellectually curious, and able to put others immediately at ease.
 

WhatInThe said:
It should be asked post mortem especially. What kind of example is Bourdain setting for all the ex addicts that went out of their way to avoid all substances and watch a guy/'ex' addict making a living that includes the use/drinking of alcohol? Alcoholics and addicts frequently lack impulse control and discipline and watching a high profile figure ignore or not show self discipline could be used as a rationalization to have a few in what is currently an intoxicating substance free life.

Bourdain was hypocritical to remind us in books, articles, interviews, shows etc about his struggles with drug addiction to openly drink alcohol on camera.
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Is this a personal thing for you? You have friends and family that you worry that his example might harm them--or you?
 
rgp said:
Being seen drinking, and being a drunkard / alcoholic are two entirely different things are they not?...
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I would agree with this. I've never heard that he was an alcoholic, though he was quite open about being a former drug addict. An addiction to one substance doesn't suggest cross-addiction to another.
 
Olivia said:
What is it?
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Simple really...you walk by & see me drinking , is not the same as what you may or may not see @ other times. At this moment in time you would see me drinking a glass of water.

I had one very good friend that was an absolute alcoholic [6] DUI arrest , and I have another suffering from effects as we speak.

I was involved in alcohol / drug testing program / procedure for 19 years , part of my occupation ....so yes, I know a bit about it.
 
rgp said:
Simple really...you walk by & see me drinking , is not the same as what you may or may not see @ other times. At this moment in time you would see me drinking a glass of water.

I had one very good friend that was an absolute alcoholic [6] DUI arrest , and I have another suffering from effects as we speak.

I was involved in alcohol / drug testing program / procedure for 19 years , part of my occupation ....so yes, I know a bit about it.
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Well, if you knew that, then why did you ask?
 
CeeCee said:
I said illegal drugs...is aspirin illegal?
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This is your quote...

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Originally Posted by CeeCee I don't know. I don't drink or do drugs, so really can't answer your question. Most TV chefs are seen drinking ...that I know.


No mention of legal or illegal.
 
rgp said:
This is your quote...

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Originally Posted by CeeCeeI don't know. I don't drink or do drugs, so really can't answer your question. Most TV chefs are seen drinking ...that I know.


No mention of legal or illegal.
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And how many aspirins do you believe that Bourdain took to off himself? Any guesses?
 
Olivia said:
Is this a personal thing for you? You have friends and family that you worry that his example might harm them--or you?
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This is an observation of friends, family and co workers with drug and alcohol problems along with those in the news. It takes most several attempts to straighten themselves out. I had co workers written off as harmless drunks for years until they start doing things like having accidents, lie to management & coworkers and get fired/rehired several times AFTER several trips to rehab. The people I've known who sobered up completely don't drink drug or drink period. They also don't talk about in front of large groups. This is what makes Bourdain hypocritical. His biography is part of his promotion intended or not.

People with addictions tend to have poor impulse control and discipline. Until they can control their vice and look it straight in the face it's best not to do anything to alter a drug & alcohol free path. Just like someone on a diet. You should try to keep them out of a bakery or fast restaurant until they have their eating habits under control. They eventually will have to directly deal with those temptations but until they actually learn how to do it why give them an excuse. It is their responsibility to change/improve themselves but why unnecessarily interrupt their progress or give them an excuse. Bourdain could've asked for non alcoholic beverages on his shows and he could've qualified it by noting his battles with addiction.
 
WhatInThe said:
This is an observation of friends, family and co workers with drug and alcohol problems along with those in the news. It takes most several attempts to straighten themselves out. I had co workers written off as harmless drunks for years until they start doing things like having accidents, lie to management & coworkers and get fired/rehired several times AFTER several trips to rehab. The people I've known who sobered up completely don't drink drug or drink period. They also don't talk about in front of large groups. This is what makes Bourdain hypocritical. His biography is part of his promotion intended or not.

People with addictions tend to have poor impulse control and discipline. Until they can control their vice and look it straight in the face it's best not to do anything to alter a drug & alcohol free path. Just like someone on a diet. You should try to keep them out of a bakery or fast restaurant until they have their eating habits under control. They eventually will have to directly deal with those temptations but until they actually learn how to do it why give them an excuse. It is their responsibility to change/improve themselves but why unnecessarily interrupt their progress or give them an excuse. Bourdain could've asked for non alcoholic beverages on his shows and he could've qualified it by noting his battles with addiction.
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So, if any of your friends, family or co-workers die from their addictions, it will be Bourdains's fault for him not asking for non-alcoholic beverages on his show so that he could be a model for other addicts. I get it now.
 
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