Anyone Here Still Refusing To Wear A Mask?

To those that don't believe it is the law to wear masks in Harris County, TX>>>>>

Masks will now be mandatory in Harris County until August 26, per a Tuesday, June 30 vote by the Harris County Commissioners.
The vote directs any businesses providing goods or services to require all employees and visitors to wear face coverings in areas of close proximity to co-workers or the public.
On Monday, June 29, Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo expressed a desire to extend the county's COVID-19 disaster declaration, which would allow for the mask order extension.
 

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Sunny said:
June 28, 2020 at 7:00 a.m. EDT

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Three serious research efforts have put numerical weight — yes, data-driven evidence — behind what many suspected all along: Americans who relied on Fox News, or similar right-wing sources, were duped as the coronavirus began its deadly spread.

Dangerously duped.
The studies “paint a picture of a media ecosystem that amplifies misinformation, entertains conspiracy theories and discourages audiences from taking concrete steps to protect themselves and others,” wrote my colleague Christopher Ingraham in an analysis last week.
Here’s the reality, now backed by numbers:

Those who relied on mainstream sources — the network evening newscasts or national newspapers that President Trump constantly blasts as “fake news” — got an accurate assessment of the pandemic’s risks. Those were the news consumers who were more likely to respond accordingly, protecting themselves and others against the disease that has now killed more than 123,000 in the United States with no end in sight.
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Those who relied on Fox or, say, radio personality Rush Limbaugh, came to believe that vitamin C was a possible remedy, that the Chinese government created the virus in a lab, and that government health agencies were exaggerating the dangers in the hopes of damaging Trump politically, a survey showed.
New research explores how conservative media misinformation may have intensified the severity of the pandemic
“That’s the real evil of this type of programming,” Arthur West of the Washington League for Increased Transparency and Ethics, which sued Fox News in April over its coronavirus coverage, told the Times of San Diego, a news website. “We believe it delayed and interfered with a prompt and adequate response to this coronavirus pandemic.” (A Fox News lawyer called the suit “wrong on the facts, frivolous on the law,” and said it would be defended vigorously; a judge dismissed the suit in May.)
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How about all the "experts" who explained that participating in mass protests was an ok thing to do in the middle of the pandemic?

Or the "experts" who told Governor Cuomo to send infected elderly people back to nursing homes? (31,000 dead New Yorkers, far more than any other state, and a huge percentage from nursing homes)

Or the "experts" who kept the NYC subways (surely the most effective incubator ever invented) packed through mid-March?

Or the "experts" who predicted that a shortage of ventilators would lead to innumerable fatalities? (Hint: it didn't. In fact using ventilators at all turned out to be a big mistake).

Lots of politically motivated foolishness on all sides of this issue. Certainly the administration inspired no confidence but no one else does, either.
 
MarciKS said:
I still don't see what the big deal is. You're the one that brought it up.
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Once again, if a person cannot breathe / has great difficulty breathing with one on ? How are they suppose to function ? Should they just chance 'keeling' over ..... to better protect you ?
 
rgp said:
Once again, if a person cannot breathe / has great difficulty breathing with one on ? How are they suppose to function ? Should they just chance 'keeling' over ..... to better protect you ?
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I do it every single day for others all day long. I can't breathe either. I'd sooner keel over than infect someone. It's not about you. It's not about me. It's about all of us. My dad is on oxygen and he wears his mask so again, what's the big deal?
 
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squatting dog said:
I'm waiting until after this dies down and then I'll be curious to see how many cases of tracheitis there will be due to a bacterial infection . It can't be good to block all bacteria from leaving your throat area and swallowing it back down your trachea.
Another problem with wearing a mask I see is shallow breathing.
When your breath is consistently shallow, stagnant air, residue, and pollutants can accumulate in the lungs, which can lead to low energy, contracted breathing, and toxic buildup. Deep breathing, on the other hand, gives our bodies nourishment and energy. Deep breathing not only supports healthier lungs, it ensures that oxygen moves through the blood and all cells, detoxifying, energizing, nourishing along the way.
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Why wait, ask the hundreds of millions of workers that wear masks every day in their work for the past 100 years? 👩‍💻👨‍💻
 
fmdog44 said:
19 states now have passed laws making wearing masks outdoors.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/us/states-face-mask-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
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Actually, only 12 of the states (11 really since DC ain't a state) have placed restrictions of mandatory mask wearing outdoors. The other states have mandated businesses to wear masks. Again, there has been NO LAW passed in any state, merely E.O. and these have not been through the court system yet. Of course, that doesn't make for a "click bait" screaming headline.
 
MarciKS said:
I do it every single day for others all day long. I can't breathe either. I'd sooner keel over than infect someone. It's not about you. It's not about me. It's about all of us. My dad is on oxygen and he wears his mask so again, what's the big deal?
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Well, I disagree .... everyone has to do what is best for them, while at the same time doing their best not to negatively affect others.
 
rgp said:
Well, I disagree .... everyone has to do what is best for them, while at the same time doing their best not to negatively affect others.
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If I have asthma and COPD and I can function and wear my mask I don't understand why your "friend" can't manage. Even long enough to go shopping or whatever. If he's in that bad of shape then maybe he needs a trip to the dr. If his breathing is that bad then it doesn't sound like his COPD is very well managed. You can't blame everything on the masks all the time.

Good luck anyway.
 
MarciKS said:
If I have asthma and COPD and I can function and wear my mask I don't understand why your "friend" can't manage. Even long enough to go shopping or whatever. If he's in that bad of shape then maybe he needs a trip to the dr. If his breathing is that bad then it doesn't sound like his COPD is very well managed. You can't blame everything on the masks all the time.

Good luck anyway.
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Not sure why you put friend in quotations ? If you do not believe me? then there is no point even having this conversation. Anyway, he has no diagnosed medical condition .. And i never said he did ........ He says he just cannot breath with the thing on. Who am I [or you] to say different ?

After all , we are all different !
 
California requires masks in public indoor spaces, including while shopping, riding on public transportation or seeking medical care. Masks or face coverings are also required in public outdoor spaces when social distancing is not an option.

Husband and I wear masks when going on errands, shopping, etc., but not when walking our dog in our suburban neighborhood. When we get within 20 yards of someone who is about to cross our path, either we or they cross the street.
 
MarciKS said:
I have no idea how accurate this is but, this was on Quora this evening.
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Interesting that there's no mention to the fact that we are exposed to bacteria all the time and some bacteria is good bacteria. Using their logic, masked shows no bacteria, so what happens to the good bacteria your body needs. :unsure:
I was glad to see the small print on the side that noted this was bacteria and really had nothing to do with virus.
 
charry said:
We all have a choice....and I’m sorry, I think they are a germ carrier ....I just don’t go near people, that’s good enough for me ..!
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Yesterday was interesting for me. I had to make several stops at various different stores since I haven't been out and about for a while. Last Friday, masks became mandatory here in our state. Every store that I entered yesterday had a sign on the door that read, "By emergency mandate, you are required to wear a mask while shopping with us, Thank you." Everyone was complying. You may no longer have a choice where you are sometime soon if this virus continues to spiral. Masks are not germ carriers if you either wash them, if cloth, or dispose of them if not. Hope you will manage to respect the health of others, if not yourself.
 
Heard on the radio and BBC news that the Texas Governor has mandated the wearing of masks in public as coronavirus cases rocketed in the state. Those who refuse will be fined up to $250.
 
LindaB said:
Yesterday was interesting for me. I had to make several stops at various different stores since I haven't been out and about for a while. Last Friday, masks became mandatory here in our state. Every store that I entered yesterday had a sign on the door that read, "By emergency mandate, you are required to wear a mask while shopping with us, Thank you." Everyone was complying. You may no longer have a choice where you are sometime soon if this virus continues to spiral. Masks are not germ carriers if you either wash them, if cloth, or dispose of them if not. Hope you will manage to respect the health of others, if not yourself.
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I dont go out anywhere linda....I am my husbands shadow carer. He cant be left ........we have online deliveries, for everything ...... im just stating, in the Uk, we dont have to wear masks......
 
charry said:
I dont go out anywhere linda....I am my husbands shadow carer. He cant be left ........we have online deliveries, for everything ...... im just stating, in the Uk, we dont have to wear masks......
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I hope you won't have to.
 
Sunny said:
Here's part of the article, which I copied and pasted. Too long to show the whole article, but this shows the gist of it.


June 28, 2020 at 7:00 a.m. EDT


Three serious research efforts have put numerical weight — yes, data-driven evidence — behind what many suspected all along: Americans who relied on Fox News, or similar right-wing sources, were duped as the coronavirus began its deadly spread.

Dangerously duped.
The studies “paint a picture of a media ecosystem that amplifies misinformation, entertains conspiracy theories and discourages audiences from taking concrete steps to protect themselves and others,” wrote my colleague Christopher Ingraham in an analysis last week.
Here’s the reality, now backed by numbers:

Those who relied on mainstream sources — the network evening newscasts or national newspapers that President Trump constantly blasts as “fake news” — got an accurate assessment of the pandemic’s risks. Those were the news consumers who were more likely to respond accordingly, protecting themselves and others against the disease that has now killed more than 123,000 in the United States with no end in sight.
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Those who relied on Fox or, say, radio personality Rush Limbaugh, came to believe that vitamin C was a possible remedy, that the Chinese government created the virus in a lab, and that government health agencies were exaggerating the dangers in the hopes of damaging Trump politically, a survey showed.
New research explores how conservative media misinformation may have intensified the severity of the pandemic
“That’s the real evil of this type of programming,” Arthur West of the Washington League for Increased Transparency and Ethics, which sued Fox News in April over its coronavirus coverage, told the Times of San Diego, a news website. “We believe it delayed and interfered with a prompt and adequate response to this coronavirus pandemic.” (A Fox News lawyer called the suit “wrong on the facts, frivolous on the law,” and said it would be defended vigorously; a judge dismissed the suit in May.)
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thanks Sunny, I agree with everything, since the very beginning Fox mimicked false info given by the gov. ya don't have to be a scientist to know anything between your mouth and other people will help stop the spread of the virus, while not a 100% effective they still help, people that argue about this have a agenda, and often it's simply a politically defiance driven reaction brought about from listening to fox broadcast and idiots like Carlson.

there are places and jobs where mask wearing is difficult if not impossible, such as high exertion and physically exhaustive type work, most often though there is no one in the area to effect, so no need to wear one.

my Menards store will not allow anyone to enter without one, I wish every store or business did the same, the simple act of putting on a mask in public congested places is so simple that not doing so is idiotic, it's as though people now days care less and less about others and only about themselves, we have become a nation of entitlement and lack respect for others that know more then our selves or the obedience to listen and heed there advice, more childishness, I fear the coming years will only see this get worse.
 
Somebody asked why wear a mask if you are alone in a car. The answer is, of course you don't need to wear a mask in that circumstance.

I wear a mask when walking outside, but only pull it up when I see anyone coming anywhere near me (within a block or so). Otherwise, it remains hanging from my ears, but beneath my chin. I don't see any reason to wear it when I am alone in the great outdoors.

This compromise works for me. I am not risking my own or anyone else's health, but I am doing what is necessary in order to breathe while I am walking.
 
I hope this is not going off piste but without getting into the debate of masks there is an emphasis on handwashing, handwashing handwashing. We were advised by some leading scientist and the PM to avoid touching our faces as much as possible and to wash our hands for the time it takes to sing happy birthday. The virus, we were told, can makes it's way through mouth, nose and EYES. :unsure:
 

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