Are there ANGELS?

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Sasha5113 said:
Isn’t it frustrating that just as we’re old enough to argue intelligently, we lose that ability!
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I don't know what you're trying to say. All of us, including my opponents, have debated (or argued), intelligently and civilly on this thread. Please quote where any of us have been insulting or disrespectful. We just disagree on this subject and that is what debating is all about.
 

My close friend since high school is a veterinarian,and she always says,when she has to euthanize a pet,that the angels come for them.I always thought she just said that,until the other day,when she said that in vet school they had to euthanize a horse,and she clearly saw 3 angels come for him. She is Catholic,so she must not know of the St.Thomas philosophy-or doesn`t believe it!

As far as the white feather falling? I only heard of this a couple of years ago and have seen so many instances of this that it`s difficult for me not to believe. The most recent one was on another forum where I have been for 13ish years....we lost one of our "girls" to cancer last year and she was a very talented crafter. One of the girls was getting married and was asking if anyone knew where she could get "decorated" ballerina slippers. Well,Tonya said that she could make her some,to just send her the slippers. She decorated a beautiful pair of slippers for her. A couple of months after her passing,Kate walked into her closet and there was a white feather laying on top of the slippers. She had no feathers (that she knew of) in her closet.
 
I'm not certain, but I think you have to believe in God first to receive angel experiences, and once you do, you can never forget them. Angels are kindly and helpful. They stand out, but look like humans. You can only tell they're angels because they can just vanish at will which is an extraordinary thing to behold. I haven't seen one in many many years and I do miss them. They are a comfort.
 
Sasha5113 said:
Sorry. I have a bad case of foot in mouth disease, which crops up every time I try to be funny. Had no intention of riling.
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Don't give it a second thought. It happens all the time on the net. It's hard to read a person's intention without seeing their face. Tho' everything in large upper case text is a bit of a giveaway. :)

I added the smilie to express my mood and to avoid any misunderstanding. 😇
 
Vedaarya said:
Everyone must have had experiences which might have adversely changed the path of their life if it not had been for the help from......HEAVEN?
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Yes I believe there are beings that watch over us especially in time of personal peril. What really convince me of this was an experience my children and I had in October 2001. My daughter was a paper carrier she became a papergirl to make extra money for her upcoming college years. She didn't have a driver's license so I drove her out each morning. This particular morning the printing presses broke down so we were later than usual for delivery. It was between 5:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. when we arrived at the home this particular of a customer.
He was in his 80's and he didn't burn any front porch lights. We had to walk up in the dark and drop his paper into a box by the door because someone on his street would steal his newspaper if it was tossed by his front door.

I was helping my daughter with delivery that morning as I walked away from this customer's house a man approached me from the side of the house his face was partially covered with a scarf and he was holding a gun.
He told me to walk into the alley in back of our customer's house. About that same time a car turned the corner on this street and the bright lights hit this thug. The headlights frightened him and he turned and ran away.

I look back at that terrible incident and always say God sent angel from heaven in the form of a driver of a car. This person will never know that particular turn he or she made was timed and he or she saved my life. Their bright car headlights were the eyes of an angel that scared away a terrible and evil man.
Yes I believe angels are real! Very real! 😇
 
Some really nice stories throughout this thread. With a little over 7 billion people on our planet I wonder what the selection process is for help from angels?
 
There isn't one. Our lives are punctuated by random and unpredictable events. If something bad happens we were unlucky, or in the wrong place at the wrong time. If something good happens, it was because of good luck or an angel or a god. Yeah, sure. Things just happen. Someone wins the lottery - hundreds of thousands get nothing. Guess their angel was on vacation when the numbers were drawn.
There re no angels, but there are good people out there.
 
I'm amazed about why religion keeps cropping up in these threads. Why do those, who believe, have the need for everybody else to believe what they do? I'm an atheist, and I could care less if you think like me. Yet, these religious themed threads are always posed by believers. Why?
 
When my mother was dying 9 months ago she claimed there were "Beings" in the room beckoning to her, beings who "shined". I was there and didn't see them but I don't disbelieve her. Hypothetically, if there were angels welcoming her to the next life then they weren't there for me and didn't show themselves to me. It's possible Mom was hallucinating too. I'm suspending my judgment until I see them myself someday. Although I do like the idea of entities from the other side shepherding across.....call them angels if you wish.
 
I'm so happy with my god that I just have to tell you about my god. My god gives me comfort. My god is not your god. My god is so much better that what you believe. I just have to share how wonderful, my god is, not your beliefs though. I believe my god is the best, so unless you believe in my god, your beliefs aren't the best. I believe my god is better that anything you believe in, and because I believe, I can say you are going to hell if you don't belief in what I believe in. If you don't believe in my god, your daughters will be prostitutes (Yes, someone, stood in my doorway and shouted that at me.) My personal religion is so wonderful , I have to impose my beliefs on you, without regard for any religious views you may have. My god is so much better than your poor beliefs, so that gives me the right to wail about it over, and over, and over,. without any regard or respect for your. beliefs. My belief is so strong, you have to believe what I believe-that is my gift to you. What you believe is wrong, only what I believe is correct.
 
Sorry, Gary, Unlike some Christians, who cannot tolerate alternative beliefs, you will have to construct your own religious ideation. I don't impose my personal beliefs on anyone. Nor do I intrude and rudely preach about my belief. I respect your right to believe what you want,, as long as you don't impose your religious beliefs on me.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I'm amazed about why religion keeps cropping up in these threads. Why do those, who believe, have the need for everybody else to believe what they do? I'm an atheist, and I could care less if you think like me. Yet, these religious themed threads are always posed by believers. Why?
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I think the bigger question is why do self proclaimed atheists as yourself repeatedly participate in threads about religion and then complain we have a "religious thread" in the forum? Just because a person discusses their faith doesn't mean they are out to convert you or anyone else in the thread. Are you maybe a bit paranoid?

Or they don't have anything to say on topic so they whine in order to join the thread? I'm not trying to be mean, I sincerely don't understand it. And it only creates trouble.

No one is imposing anything on you because you have a choice to spend your time in the gazillion other threads here that aren't about religion. When you point your finger, 3 fingers point back at you.
 
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Everyone likes to talk about interesting stuff. And, like it or not, religion is interesting stuff because it is so important to the history of mankind, the actions we took and why. I did not raise my child religiously, BUT, I certainly did inform about the various religions, stories, characters, etc. Did not want my child to be ignorant of that which so many are aware.
 
chic said:
I'm not certain, but I think you have to believe in God first to receive angel experiences, and once you do, you can never forget them. Angels are kindly and helpful. They stand out, but look like humans. You can only tell they're angels because they can just vanish at will which is an extraordinary thing to behold. I haven't seen one in many many years and I do miss them. They are a comfort.
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This post so reminds me of an experience I had many years ago. God wasn't an "issue" with me, but honestly couldn't seem to "wrap my head" around angels. I started meditation in my 20's and have kept it as a daily practice all these years. One day, the 90's, in deep meditation an angel appeared to me out of the blue. It was the most innocent looking thing I'd ever seen, much more than a baby even. Can't explain that right so won't try.

I'd been doing quite a bit of TV and radio interviewing during this period and one day, was on the "wait" line feed for on the air (radio). When you are on this feed, you can hear the guest in front of you - hear their whole segment, and I was fascinated, as this was an "angel expert", so they said. I ask the moderator if I could ask her a question and she cut me in, as it was a "call in" program.

Related the tale of seeing the angel to her (on the air, lol) and she said "oh, you saw the Hummingbird Angel, the wings moved very fast, like with the colors of the rainbow, right? Yes, I got a bit excited that she knew exactly what I'd seen. She said "that angel will bring other angels. The reason you saw it, is its a Cherub and you were near the throne."

Later on, at home I was looking through art books and all at once, there was Rubens Cherub paintings. OMG. Now don't get me wrong...the one dimensional Cherubs didn't or couldn't look exactly like what I'd seen, as this was from the higher dimensions and so fantastically multi-structured compared to a single medium painting rendering, but it was so close, remember thinking, "he must have seen them too, to be able to portray such a likeness in the flesh".
 
chic said:
I'm not certain, but I think you have to believe in God first to receive angel experiences........
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What if.................these experiences we are speculating upon have no reliance to a god? What if they exist without this presence, just because they DO.?
 
Why is it that some Christians are so deaf as to their proselytizing? Why do some Christians believe it is their right to prattle on about their faith? Why do they join nonreligious forums, and repeatedly interject their Christian theology into threads? Why is it some Christians ignore, and disrespect the religious views of others, who are also using this forum. Why can't some Christians understand others are disrespected by intrusion of their Christian religious views?
When some Christians in this forum, are quoting Biblical scripture and Christian theological ideation, it is proselytizing.
 
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fuzzybuddy said:
Why is it that some Christians are so deaf as to their proselytizing? Why do some Christians believe it is their right to prattle on about their faith? Why do they join nonreligious forums, and repeatedly interject their Christian theology into threads? Why is it some Christians ignore, and disrespect the religious views of others, who are also using this forum. Why can't some Christians understand others are disrespected by intrusion of their Christian religious views?
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Because..............they were all taught to spread the Gospel, the Good News................that's the basic of their faith, so in reality, they can't shut up! 😄
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Why is it that some Christians are so deaf as to their proselytizing? Why do some Christians believe it is their right to prattle on about their faith? Why do they join nonreligious forums, and repeatedly interject their Christian theology into threads? Why is it some Christians ignore, and disrespect the religious views of others, who are also using this forum. Why can't some Christians understand others are disrespected by intrusion of their Christian religious views?
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fuzzybuddy IMO this particular thread is religious in nature in the sense that it's about belief in angels. Angels being part of the US that a supernatural being supposedly made humans in his image. Between Neanderthal species & the 25,000 year old skeletal remains & the early Upper Paleolithic human skeleton from the Abrigo do Lagar Velho (Portugal) and modern human emergence in Iberia https://www.pnas.org/content/96/13/7604 the image might not be what angels look like.

I've always wondered. If that supernatural being was so angry with his 1st. shot at creating man in his image [whatever that might be] that he murdered all but Noah & his family. Why not kill them too and start over? Wouldn't it make sense the murders that take place daily around the world since that family was saved be because of the original creator/murderer
 
Knight said:
...this particular thread is religious in nature in the sense that it's about belief in angels. I've always wondered. If that supernatural being was so angry with his 1st. shot at creating man in his image [whatever that might be]Why not...start over?
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Because God isn't a quitter. He had a perfect plan and finally came to forgive man from His sin without punishment but with love if man so chooses. I'm just answering your question...not trying to convert anyone.
 

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