Pam
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Alan Price - Jarrow Song.
Are you celebrating "Pride Month"?
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Alan Price - Jarrow Song.
I have been following the discussion here. I have been ill so have not had the will to join in. Now, I do. @jpstrap, you recently joined the forum. You indicated you were alone, living in government assisted housing and were looking for people to help you in times of need.
We have many here that are in the same situation and are happy, thriving people that would go out of their way to help others.
My question to you is why do your neighbors not help you, offer support, assistance? Could it be your attitude? Would you turn away lovely people, a Black couple, an Asian couple, a Latino couple, a young couple with tattoos and mohawks, a gay couple, a lesbian couple. They show up at your door, knowing you are sick and need help. They offer to get you to the doctor, clean your apartment, grocery shop, cook meals, do your laundry and even help you bathe?
The thing is as we age, we should grow in our knowledge and understanding of other people. Everyone deserves kindness, respect and assistance if we are in trouble. It is time to let go of all the judgement and notions you have formed that have made you incapable of receiving support from kind and helpful people. It is totally your choice but you will be the one to left alone, scared, and suffering. I have been in trouble many times and some kind stranger has come to my aid and I was grateful whomever they were.
Trish
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I didn't see the picture but, I wondered if this was the case.
I have seen the Naked Bike Ride go through London several times and it's always looked fun to me and not in the least bit offensive
Personally, I would not take part, I can't ride a bike 
It has never occurred to me to celebrate Pride month, I have always thought of it as a celebration for gay people and am genuinely surprised that anyone would regard it negatively. I have never been to a Pride march but have always had the impression it is a joyous and non-violent affair although, if that is not the case, I can understand people objecting to it for that reason but, not because the people celebrating are gay.
Trish
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@Trish you may have misunderstood my post. Yes, I am alone but I have family nearby. I am lucky to live in my own home and not struggle. I have a good retirement income and do not have to worry about the future for now. I have good neighbors, we help each other in times of crisis.
That said, I am aware of the struggle of others. I have a government assisted apartment complex at the edge of our neighborhood. These are filled with disabled people and young families in need of assistance. They are welcomed in our community and we provide assistance without interference. There are clothing and food drives held that benefit not only them but others that may be struggling. If you can, please participate in these drives often held at your local schools, libraries, and churches.
That said, I am aware of the struggle of others. I have a government assisted apartment complex at the edge of our neighborhood. These are filled with disabled people and young families in need of assistance. They are welcomed in our community and we provide assistance without interference. There are clothing and food drives held that benefit not only them but others that may be struggling. If you can, please participate in these drives often held at your local schools, libraries, and churches.
Trish
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I did
We have similar projects and initiatives where people help and donate. I think Covid really made people aware of how invaluable it is for people to help others, if and when they can.
Trish
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They are not marching down the streets. Once a year, all over the world, people can join the naked bike ride. The route is well-publicised and easily avoidable. Unlike the demonstrations regularly taking place which often result in violence, the bike ride is, a trouble-free event.
Mobilman44
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To me, any special dedicated month means little or nothing.
I couldn't care less about another person's sexuality (or color, nationality, religion, politics, etc). If other's choices (or natural leanings) don't hurt anyone, why should I care?
I couldn't care less about another person's sexuality (or color, nationality, religion, politics, etc). If other's choices (or natural leanings) don't hurt anyone, why should I care?
Purwell
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Not likely!
Lara
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"Naked bike ride?" Are they trying to make a point? No pun intended. What is the point? Seriously.
They like being naked. They like to ride bikes while naked. I think that's the point.
Lara
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Even if they know it offends some people? Can't they ride naked and just cover their woo woo?
I often see life through the lens of childhood, and so on the business of celebrating a special day or month for being this-or-that, I noted as a boy that there was a “Mother’s Day” and a “Father’s Day,” but no “Children’s Day.” I asked my parents why this was…
”Every day is ‘Children’s Day!,” they condescendingly replied.
I didn’t buy it then, and I don’t now. I just wanna know when can I collect the 17 days of being treated as special that I figure I’m owed. Hey, Kid Pride! Better still, make it “Children’s Month,” and I’m due 30x17 or 510 days of special recognition.- -You guys should put in for yours, too!
”Every day is ‘Children’s Day!,” they condescendingly replied.
I didn’t buy it then, and I don’t now. I just wanna know when can I collect the 17 days of being treated as special that I figure I’m owed. Hey, Kid Pride! Better still, make it “Children’s Month,” and I’m due 30x17 or 510 days of special recognition.- -You guys should put in for yours, too!
I once collected Donald Neil Walsch's books "conversations with God" - I wish i had kept them now? - He had imo an uncanny way of explaining issues like "gayness' himosexuality etc in a way I had never heard before. someone had asked the question "does God like gay people and does he condone them" tdhe answer was fascinatingly refreshing. - he also described the simple word "remembering" - in a biblical sense as when we remember God we are being "re-membered" as in becoming a member again - cute heh??
Thank you, Mark, for pointing out another 'misinformation'...it never ends.
jpstrap
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If my neighbors choose to not help because of my attitude, that reflects upon them, not me. If a person needed help, would you assess that person's attitude before offering help? As I age I have certainly have developed notions and judgements, just as billions of others have done. That's what aging is all about. Why on earth should I let go of my life experiences and what they have taught me? Your suggestion is without merit, in my opinion.
You are assuming that my notions and judgments are the cause of why I am alone and seeking the standby help? What reasoning do you use to come to that conclusion? You certainly seem to be simply assuming a lot of things in your post. I know you are well meaning, but your words make little sense to me. Also, if I am left alone, which I seriously doubt, I can tell you being scared is not in my genes. I have prepared myself for ANY eventually and will accept those experiences as they unfold in my life, without the childish reaction of fear.
The suffering is another story. Being alone to my way of thinking really has no causal relation to suffering. People with zillions of friends will also suffer. Suffering is not just for those who need emergency assistance. In any case, I have prepared for that eventually. Suffering is lessened when one steels his mind by preparing. I have always lived this way.
I do appreciate your good intention in posting what you have, however I feel that because you do not know me as a person, your advice is at best a guess based on my very few posts on this forum. God bless and have a good life! I will be just fine without re-assessing and modifying my life's lessons. Life has been so good to me, and I have developed strong self-respect as a result. No changes are in store for me. Perhaps you should also seek to cherish what your life is teaching you.
Trish
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It's a good question
Like the London Marathon, there are several reasons why people take part. I believe the original message was as a protest against global dependency on oil and a call to curb car culture as well as to draw attention to the vulnerability of cyclists on the roads, hence why some have the words "Do you see me now?" painted on their bodies. Events take place all over the World and often in support of causes such as MIND and Cancer charities. Not all riders are naked although, the photos you see will be of the naked riders because that is what gets the attention of the media and also people who take photos to put on social media.
I had never heard of the bike ride until I was on a bus and along came the naked riders on their bikes! I did not see anyone offended, people laughed and most got their mobile phones out!
The thing is, whether you agree with it, think it is silly or even offensive, we have all sorts of protests and marches through our streets which are violent, hateful and require a heavy police presence as well as preventing other people from entering those areas. I'd much rather see people enjoying a peaceful march, even if they have left their clothes at home
fuzzybuddy
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I guess I poorly worded this thread. I meant to ask if you would have ever thought there would be something, like a Pride Month. I used the word, "celebrate", which implies having a cake, fire works, etc. That was a poor choice.
Today, everybody gets a "month". June is Asparagus Eaters Month. But I never thought I'd ever hear of Pride Month.
Today, everybody gets a "month". June is Asparagus Eaters Month. But I never thought I'd ever hear of Pride Month.
I suggest you listen to Stephen Fry's views on people taking offence...
I'm also intrigued about how you perceive "it being shoved down our throats"?
Good Start, excellent
Marie5656
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Food for thought:
Heritage Months:
Heritage Months:
- January (Martin Luther King, Jr. History)
- February (African American/Black History)
- March (Women's History)
- May (Asian American and Pacific Islander History)
- June (LGBTQ+ Pride)
- September (Hispanic Heritage)
- October (Disability Employment Awareness)
- Black History Month
- Women's History Month
- Arab Heritage Month
- APIDA Heritage Month
- Jewish Heritage Month
- Latinx/e Heritage Month
- Native American and Indigenous Heritage Month
Lara
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For those interested in a Biblical viewpoint: (if not please walk on by)
God does not hate Gays, as some believe. Let's go straight to the Bible to find out what God thinks of Gays.
The Answer may Surprise some.
Proverbs 6:16-19 tells us, there are seven things God finds detestable: haughty pride, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.” Notice that homosexuality does not make this list.”
That does not mean, however, that God approves of homosexuality. He also disapproves of greed, lust, gluttony, envy, wrath, and laziness. All are sins. The Bible tells us that homosexuality is a sin. However, "God loves the sinner but detests the sin" which leaves an opening to ask forgiveness along with repenting.
Romans 1:26-27 teaches that homosexuality is a result of a continual rebellion against God. When people continue to rebel against God, God “gives them over,” allowing them to experience their sinful desires and the resulting consequences.
First Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God because what they are doing is a disruption of the “natural order” and, more importantly, of God’s view of sexuality. God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, fornicator, idol worshiper, thief, greedy person, and all sinners, which is all human beings who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation.
But if a sinner doesn't want to change the sin then that's one's choice to be on their own...with natural consequences.
God does not hate Gays, as some believe. Let's go straight to the Bible to find out what God thinks of Gays.
The Answer may Surprise some.
Proverbs 6:16-19 tells us, there are seven things God finds detestable: haughty pride, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.” Notice that homosexuality does not make this list.”
That does not mean, however, that God approves of homosexuality. He also disapproves of greed, lust, gluttony, envy, wrath, and laziness. All are sins. The Bible tells us that homosexuality is a sin. However, "God loves the sinner but detests the sin" which leaves an opening to ask forgiveness along with repenting.
Romans 1:26-27 teaches that homosexuality is a result of a continual rebellion against God. When people continue to rebel against God, God “gives them over,” allowing them to experience their sinful desires and the resulting consequences.
First Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God because what they are doing is a disruption of the “natural order” and, more importantly, of God’s view of sexuality. God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, fornicator, idol worshiper, thief, greedy person, and all sinners, which is all human beings who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation.
But if a sinner doesn't want to change the sin then that's one's choice to be on their own...with natural consequences.
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