Are you intelligent, helpless, a bandit, or stupid?

Irwin

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In keeping with @fuzzybuddy's theme for today, here's a question for you... According to the following definitions, into which category do you fit?
  • Helpless people - contribute to society but are taken advantage of by it (and especially by the "bandit" sector of it); note, however, that extreme altruists and pacifists may willingly and consciously (rather than helplessly) accept a place in this category for moral or ethical reasons
  • Intelligent people - contribute to society and who leverage their contributions into reciprocal benefits
  • Bandits - pursue their own self-interest even when doing so poses a net detriment to societal welfare
  • Stupid people - whose efforts are counterproductive to both their and others' interests
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These are Cipolla's five fundamental laws of stupidity:
  1. Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
  2. The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
  3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
  4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
  5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
Corollary: a stupid person is more dangerous than a pillager.

As is evident from the third law, Cipolla identifies two factors to consider when exploring human behaviour:
  1. Benefits and losses that an individual causes to him or herself.
  2. Benefits and losses that an individual causes to others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_M._Cipolla
 

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I was just reading about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial on my phone a little while ago while sitting on the commode. Isn't it nice to never be without something to read? I love modern technology in that respect. Plus I never get lost any more, thanks to the GPS navigation system! All this came along just in time for us babyboomers as our faculties begin to fail. Or is it facilities? Or perhaps both.

But anyway, in case you live in a cave somewhere without access to the news, Kyle is on trial for murdering two people and injuring another with his assault-style rifle during last year's riots. What he did was of absolutely no benefit to society, and while he might have gotten some transitory adulation from others who share his mindset, he's probably going to go to prison for a long time, although that prospect doesn't seem to bother some people.

So he would fall into the category of "stupid person," or at least his actions were stupid since no one benefitted from them. And he is most definitely a dangerous person!
 
It is not that were stupid or smart-it is that we are judgemental.
A person living totally alone has no knowledge that he is stupid (or smart) until someone tells him he's stupid.

I used to be stupid
moved to another state
they didn't know I was stupid
accepted me as an equal
 
I was just reading about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial on my phone a little while ago while sitting on the commode. Isn't it nice to never be without something to read? I love modern technology in that respect. Plus I never get lost any more, thanks to the GPS navigation system! All this came along just in time for us babyboomers as our faculties begin to fail. Or is it facilities? Or perhaps both.

But anyway, in case you live in a cave somewhere without access to the news, Kyle is on trial for murdering two people and injuring another with his assault-style rifle during last year's riots. What he did was of absolutely no benefit to society, and while he might have gotten some transitory adulation from others who share his mindset, he's probably going to go to prison for a long time, although that prospect doesn't seem to bother some people.

So he would fall into the category of "stupid person," or at least his actions were stupid since no one benefitted from them. And he is most definitely a dangerous person!
Yes, but if you look into what's going on with the trial, he was running away from the two people he shot and only shot them when they cornered him down on the ground and one pointed a gun at him. One admitted that during the trial. Clearly self defense. So ...
 
Yes, but if you look into what's going on with the trial, he was running away from the two people he shot and only shot them when they cornered him down on the ground and one pointed a gun at him. One admitted that during the trial. Clearly self defense. So ...
Oh, I forgot: I believe he was tending a parking lot or something like that. Then they started chasing him while he kept yelling that he was "friendly".
 
I was just reading about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial on my phone a little while ago while sitting on the commode. Isn't it nice to never be without something to read? I love modern technology in that respect. Plus I never get lost any more, thanks to the GPS navigation system!
Good to know you use the navigation system on your phone to exit the bathroom after using the commode.
 
Oh, I forgot: I believe he was tending a parking lot or something like that. Then they started chasing him while he kept yelling that he was "friendly".
There does seem to be a disconnect in how the national media is covering this and what the jurors are hearing, according to so many local reports. The national media seems to be portraying a guilty verdict as an absolute certainty, while the real potential of an acquittal or hung jury is possible, along with mistrial, mistrial with prejudice, etc. Not sure why, but the cynic in me says... really angry people marching in the streets, make for good tv and the networks are always trying to push up their ratings. :confused:
 
I think the Rittenhouse kid and his victim, who had been chasing him, were both just really stupid. And young, which is sometimes the same as stupid (it sure was with me.) They both thought it would be a good idea to go into a crowd of angry protesters carrying guns. One lost his life and the other may have to go to prison and they were both just young and stupid.
 
When you buy any kind of electrical device, it comes with a million WARNINGS. Some of the warnings are stupid, like don't use your weed whacker to shave. But the reason, that warning is there, is some idiot did try to use it to shave. Stupidity knows no bounds. I am living proof of that.
 

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